FSC: Porn Performer 'Patient Alpha' Retests HIV-Negative
 

Sorry about that...

Full story: http://www.xbiz.com/news/138180

Number 2 :)

Number 3...

what a fuckup lol

Awesome news! Glad to hear that the results were negative.

man that guy is doing the happy dance today

and all the girls etc
false positives happen often? anyone know?

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Probably as much as false negatives? :party-smi

Maybe the hiv germs were from the backseat of the car where they drew the blood. lol.

asking the same, how much false is false, and real is real? :warning

Free Speech Coalition? First Amendment? I thought the first amendment was about Free Speech? Did it mention AID's?

I guess I need to read it again.

And on the 3rd try?

The popo club lol :D

PCR-DNA Testing
False Positives: 15 in 1000
False Negatives: 3 in 1000

Following up a Positive result on a PCR-DNA with Western Blot assay: 1 in 250,000

Correcting Misinformation Concerning the FSC
 

For all you newbies, here is the history of the Free Speech Coalition:

The Mission Statement for the Free Speech Coalition follows:

Please note that litigation is used as a last resort and not the primary purpose.

Wonder if the main stream press will pick this up...

Probably not, as good news usually doesn't sell well.

probably . . . . on page 36.

AP Carried the "negative" announcement PR by FSC--it was shown on the front page of Yahoo News last night, shortly after I posted it to another GFY thread about the HIV scare.

Yeah, they love to wallow in bad things and never report much positive. Doesn't bring in viewers I suppose

That's pretty remarkable! :thumbsup

I think it's important you check your information with Porno Dan first. He seems to be the only one with all the facts on this.

Warchild,

because porno dan posts confidential information freely, you think he is the only one with all the facts?

Strange.

I know it's hard to comunicate sarcasm with written words alone on a message board, but believe me that's what I was going for.

hehe, sorry for that.. <g> I wasn't sure, my sarcasm detection is slow tonight, I just came back to europe from the US.

I kinda noticed it must have been when I saw your other post in the old thread..

Did this guy actually get three tests?

One PCR that he failed, then a Western Blot to confirm that positive result. No one will say if it confirmed it or not. Big secret still. Bury this one with Kennedy.

Then tested again and we're told he tested negative. I assume it was another PCR. You would not use a Western Blot to confirm a Neg test, so it is just the main test.

So is this one negative test all everyone is going on, or was there a 3rd PCR test given that he passed? Like the best two of three. Otherwise, you're just rolling 50/50, no?

Anyone know? Rather, anyone willing to talk about it?

Then what really bakes my noodle is, all the talk of the "false positive" test before any more testing. Because that is what it turned out to be. So did he go through this already, test positive once, then test negative and worked? If he knew he had a false positive test, it would only be that if he had another test.

I'll make some calls, see if we can get this info boxed up and stored at Area 51.

wonder if you can get hiv from a cum omelette?

I think the types of tests and outcome of them should be released.

If I was working there as talent, I'd demand it.

Dates of ALL the tests, starting from the first positive one, the western blot confirmation, then each follow up or confirmation test, and the testing methods for all.

That would be very fair for models who may not have a lot of faith in the companies who sent them to work with a crossover in the first place.

Wishful thinking though.

I can't answer to the specifics of this case, but my understanding is that if a PCR-DNA test comes back with a preliminary positive result, it require a confirmatory test, which is what they use the Western Blot test for (the two tests look at the virus differently, and combined produce a more complete analysis and more reliable result).

There has been a fair amount of parsing of words and semantical gymnastics going on, which is why I have been calling for an industry set of protocols to be adopted, so that everyone is on the same page.

For example, I thought before a person with a preliminary HIV positive result could truly be considered negative, they actually would have to go through a few more follow-up tests at intervals spread out over a period of weeks. But since the Western Blot has reportedly come back negative, the message that is being filtered out is everything is all clear, nothing to worry about folks, everyone back in the pool.

An outbreak in the industry affects us all, not just the producers directly involved, and most importantly it affects the performers in this industry, many of whom have already had their faith in this biz rocked by the recent PWL BS.

If we want to restore faith and make things right (and even prove that we learned a lesson from this whole ordeal), then we need to do more than issue empty press releases and slap each other on the back for dodging another bullet.

AHF is not going to slow down in it's efforts to have a vote on mandatory condoms on the ballot in LA. If the industry is against this, particularly the LA-based industry, then it better start doing something proactive about it, or the industry will pay a bigger price later... :2 cents:

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Posted in another thread earlier tonight:

As I suspected, there are still some important questions which remain to be answered.

When Dan first announced that there was a positive test result more than a week ago, the industry response was swift and news traveled fast (although not all of it was accurate), which was followed by some people parsing words and engaging in semantics to further confuse matters by suggesting that there was no positive result whatsoever, or that there had never been a positive test of any kind (which we now know was untrue).

Now we are hearing that there may have been more than one false positive test. WTF? :uhoh

It will be interesting to see what happens as a result of all of this...

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That is correct. A positive test result will be confirmed by a western blot.

Wow, I didn't see that other post from Dan.

If the only negative result is an Elisa test, then that is a pretty stupid and premature point to make press about, as it may be too early to detect the virus with only the Elisa method.

However, that is a GREAT spin to get disinformation out into the mainstream media. Well played. :2 cents:

I don't think I've ever heard of a situation where it's been so difficult to find out if one person has HIV or not. But I guess such shenanigans are to be expected when certain parties are involved.

Excerpts from a discussion elsewhere (quoting Michael Whitacre):

As I wrote in another thread, I hope this whole episode isn't just about a power struggle, and an adult industry testing money-grab, between TTS, APHSS, and AHF. :disgust

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Bump for the Back from Labor Day holiday crowd (and bump for updates and more answers). :thumbsup

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Western Blot positive means HIV positive, no doubt.
Western Blot negative confirms nothing really..