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GatorB 09-07-2011 08:58 PM

LOL at Rick Perry
 
Claims he created 1 million jobs in Texas. Yes jobs that whose main skill is asking me if I want to large size my combo meal. You go Rick.

seeric 09-07-2011 09:04 PM

They're all complete and utter imbeciles.

All politicians should be lined up and shot in the head.

StickyGreen 09-07-2011 09:07 PM

Rick Perry would sell his own mother for the right price...

Look into the Spanish company Cintra and other foreign companies that he gives deals to in his own state...

Chris 09-07-2011 09:10 PM

i think perry has done some amazing things here in texas but id be scared shitless if he ran the country

as for him saying he created a million jobs in texas .. dunno how true it is but what is true is texas does have the largest employment growth rate

GatorB 09-07-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18410715)
i think perry has done some amazing things here in texas but id be scared shitless if he ran the country

as for him saying he created a million jobs in texas .. dunno how true it is but what is true is texas does have the largest employment growth rate

yes and nearly 100% of that is low paying jobs. Look it up.

PornoMonster 09-07-2011 09:23 PM

Lol who gives a fuck if they are low paying, they are NOT paying below min wage, and now the people are not sitting at home collecting welfare.
You make it sound like he made them take the jobs like slavery.

You would complain if he didn't create jobs.

GatorB 09-07-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18410729)
Lol who gives a fuck if they are low paying, they are NOT paying below min wage, and now the people are not sitting at home collecting welfare.
You make it sound like he made them take the jobs like slavery.

You would complain if he didn't create jobs.

YOU live on minimum wage and see if it can be done. And sorry people on minimum wage CAN collect welfare and foodstamps.

PornoMonster 09-07-2011 09:39 PM

What, would you be more happy with NO jobs?
Yes they can, but they collect MORE with no job.

So, your saying you would be happy if these people didn't have these low paying jobs, and lived on the system only??

Chris 09-07-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18410719)
yes and nearly 100% of that is low paying jobs. Look it up.

I'd have to disagree with you
take a read at what this guys says = http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

sures its just the internet but he does post links to his sources

and an average hourly wage of 15$ an hour in texas is a rather good living


another link http://www.texasahead.org/economy/tracking/

Tempest 09-07-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18410715)
i think perry has done some amazing things here in texas but id be scared shitless if he ran the country

as for him saying he created a million jobs in texas .. dunno how true it is but what is true is texas does have the largest employment growth rate

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...=ITP_pageone_1

Energy companies i.e. big oil expands due to the rise in the demand/price of oil over the last number of years.. people move to Texas.. they need more burger flippers, eduction and health workers to keep pace with the population growth.. 300k of the jobs were government jobs which they are now about to start cutting due to large budget shortfalls... Guess they're not getting enough tax revenue from all those burger flippers and all the low tax rates they handed out to big business.. Funny how that works... Perry had little to do with it all really other than the 300k government jobs. Oh.. And he used the Federal Stimulus money which he spoke out about, to do some stuff as well.. He was just along for the ride for the most part. I'm sure Texas's "bubble" will burst over the next couple years.

StickyGreen 09-07-2011 09:46 PM

They should ask Perry what he was doing at Bilderberg in the next debate.

It's a fair question, he was there afterall...

GregE 09-07-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18410729)
Lol who gives a fuck if they are low paying, they are NOT paying below min wage, and now the people are not sitting at home collecting welfare.
You make it sound like he made them take the jobs like slavery.

You would complain if he didn't create jobs.

I'd be impressed if he (or any other blowhard politician) created some real jobs.

But it's not like I'm holding my breath or anything.

kane 09-07-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18410752)
I'd have to disagree with you
take a read at what this guys says = http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

sures its just the internet but he does post links to his sources

and an average hourly wage of 15$ an hour in texas is a rather good living


another link http://www.texasahead.org/economy/tracking/

That is an interesting post, but it seems to be essentially arguing that if all the jobs were low paying jobs they would drag down the average wage. While that would be true, it then goes on to explain how about 25% of those jobs are in the energy industry. So it seems like about 25% of them are high paying jobs and then the rest are lower paying jobs and they balance out.

For example if 250K of those jobs paid $32 per hour and the other 750K paid only $8 per hour it averages out to $14 per hour. So the average is still in the ballpark of the state average.

Still, the wall street journal did a good story on this and pointed out that about 300K of these new jobs are government jobs and they show that Texas has increased the number of government jobs by about twice the national average over the last few years.

So it's not hard to hire a bunch of people on the government payroll, get some energy workers and then open up a bunch of fast food jobs and call it a great deal.

Once again the supposed small government republican grew the government and is now boasting about how great a job he did creating jobs.

here is the wsj story
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...=ITP_pageone_1

kane 09-07-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18410749)
What, would you be more happy with NO jobs?
Yes they can, but they collect MORE with no job.

So, your saying you would be happy if these people didn't have these low paying jobs, and lived on the system only??

Is creating 300,000 government jobs that don't appear to really be needed better than paying someone to sit at home on unemployment? Now instead of paying them unemployment and likely food stamps and other potential assistance we are paying them a nice big salary and great benefits to take up space and shuffle paper around.

PornoMonster 09-07-2011 09:59 PM

GregE. Yeah I know this, that isn't the point. I doubt he had anything at all to do with it. A good question for him tonight would of been what exactly did you do.

Tempest 09-07-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18410752)
I'd have to disagree with you
take a read at what this guys says = http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

I looked at that as well and for the most part, he uses the stats to skew reality...

It takes 5 minimum wage jobs + 1 $111,800/year job to have an average wage of $15/hour.. so regardless, it still means that most of the new jobs are low or minimum wage jobs. i.e. 83% of the jobs would be minimum wage in that instance... Another example... 3 $10/hr jobs and 1 $63k/year job is around $15/hour.. so 75% low wage jobs.

StickyGreen 09-07-2011 10:31 PM

You can tell how much of an arrogant asshole prick Perry is from this picture...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/OKF...IGN-DEBATE.jpg

GatorB 09-07-2011 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18410749)
What, would you be more happy with NO jobs?
Yes they can, but they collect MORE with no job.

So, your saying you would be happy if these people didn't have these low paying jobs, and lived on the system only??

I'd be more proud of creating 500,000 jobs that paid $25 an hour than creating 2 million that paid $7.25. But that's just me, because unlike Perry, I have standards.

Paul Markham 09-08-2011 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18410754)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...=ITP_pageone_1

Energy companies i.e. big oil expands due to the rise in the demand/price of oil over the last number of years.. people move to Texas.. they need more burger flippers, eduction and health workers to keep pace with the population growth.. 300k of the jobs were government jobs which they are now about to start cutting due to large budget shortfalls... Guess they're not getting enough tax revenue from all those burger flippers and all the low tax rates they handed out to big business.. Funny how that works... Perry had little to do with it all really other than the 300k government jobs. Oh.. And he used the Federal Stimulus money which he spoke out about, to do some stuff as well.. He was just along for the ride for the most part. I'm sure Texas's "bubble" will burst over the next couple years.

What is great is the sound bite. "While I was Governor Texas employed expanded by ..." or words to that say the same.

What happens when it's examined closely is how those jobs were created. And were the people who moved to Texas already employed so just a shifting of jobs?

The problem is there's only one way to create real jobs that will last. Build, create, produce more at home and sell it, preferably overseas. And no US politician has a clue how to do that long term. Same goes for UK. They are cutting spending to repay the debt and the jobs lost are not being picked up by private enterprise.

Less Government spending = Less jobs.
Lower taxes = Less Government spending = Less jobs.
Less borrowing = Less Government spending = Less jobs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18410767)
Is creating 300,000 government jobs that don't appear to really be needed better than paying someone to sit at home on unemployment? Now instead of paying them unemployment and likely food stamps and other potential assistance we are paying them a nice big salary and great benefits to take up space and shuffle paper around.

It's cheaper to keep them unemployed. Cost of wages, accommodation at work, equipment, management and then doing what?

StickyGreen 09-08-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18410919)

Less Government spending = Less jobs.

Government spending isn't the only thing that affects jobs.

It is possible to have less government spending with more jobs...

porno jew 09-08-2011 12:57 AM

like a politician in alberta canada taking credit for job growth. with a booming oil sector a sex doll could run the state.

that the fact all the jobs are min wage is a huge fail. that state should have tons of high paying energy sector jobs.

Tempest 09-08-2011 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18410919)
The problem is there's only one way to create real jobs that will last. Build, create, produce more at home and sell it, preferably overseas. And no US politician has a clue how to do that long term.

Sorry, wrong.. No politician has the political will to do what's needed.. The US is a me me me society where everyone is out for themselves regardless of whether or not the long term results of that end up destroying themselves. The "free market" is too ingrained in the US mindset that anything else isn't even considered. The US is all about getting out of the way of business and letting it do it's thing, even if that means fucking up the US. There's no "let's work together for the benefit if the US and each other" but instead it's every man for themselves.

The US needs manufacturing in order to stave off becoming a country of low paying service jobs. But the policies in the US aren't geared towards creating and keeping manufacturing, not to mention ensuring that there are no trade imbalances. How long has that been going on with China?

Germany is a great example of how the US could achieve what's needed but they'd never implement the sorts of policies that would be required.

Pretty good article here about Germany
http://prospect.org/cs/articles?arti...conomic_engine

BIGTYMER 09-08-2011 01:31 AM

The cost of living in Texas is good. And homes are fucking cheap as shit!

GatorB 09-08-2011 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18411156)
low paying jobs are jobs nonetheless.

Good then you go work one of them. Tell us how that works out. We have 14 million unemployed. If you think giving all of them minimum wage jobs is the answer to solving our economic problems your sorely mistaken.

IllTestYourGirls 09-08-2011 05:40 AM

Perry is insane.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...1_daypix18.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 09-08-2011 05:45 AM

Not defending Rick here. But what types of "high paying" jobs do you think most people on welfare are qualified for?

iamtam 09-08-2011 06:22 AM

the republican'ts rule. 12 clicks must be proud.

Barry-xlovecam 09-08-2011 06:38 AM

Flash in the pan ... (Hopefully).

MaDalton 09-08-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18411004)

Germany is a great example of how the US could achieve what's needed but they'd never implement the sorts of policies that would be required.

Pretty good article here about Germany
http://prospect.org/cs/articles?arti...conomic_engine

:glugglug :pimp

RycEric 09-08-2011 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18410898)
I'd be more proud of creating 500,000 jobs that paid $25 an hour than creating 2 million that paid $7.25. But that's just me, because unlike Perry, I have standards.

Minimum wage companies here:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...states/TX.html

No standards here:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/37642856/CNBC_s_Top_States_For_Business_2010_And_The_Winner _Is_Texas

Wizzo 09-08-2011 07:15 AM

Actually there's a ton of good paying jobs here in Texas but they were mostly created by the price of oil not Perry. :winkwink:

directfiesta 09-08-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18410752)
I'd have to disagree with you
take a read at what this guys says = http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

sures its just the internet but he does post links to his sources

and an average hourly wage of 15$ an hour in texas is a rather good living


another link http://www.texasahead.org/economy/tracking/

$15.00 an hour is good living ...

WOW !!!! think trailer parks are high end gated communities ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JamesGw 09-08-2011 08:17 AM

Really not a fan of Perry at all.

raymor 09-08-2011 09:10 AM

I've lived in Texas for the whole of Rick Perry's tenure. Let me tell you what a typical Texan has seen.

The economy here is better than most places. There have always been jobs available even for unskilled workers at wages that are ok for our cost of living.

I bought a decent three bedroom house for under $100,000, so here an unskilled entry level job that pays $12.50 isn't too bad. Obviously you want to move beyond entry level, but a young couple can certainly pay a mortgage.

Most Texans I know see Perry as being a lot like Clinton - fairly competent as far as politicians go, and no more trustworthy than "slick Willy" Clinton. That makes sense given that Perry was Al Gore's campaign manager - Perry and Clinton run is the same circles and both act like used car salesmen.

Texas has done better through this recession than the rest of the country but we attribute that more to holding on to the self sufficient entrepenurial spirit of the founders rather than crediting the governor. Obviously low tax rates have helped keep businesses here and having no state income tax eases the burden on everyone. Both of those pre-date Perry, so he doesn't get credit for them. I guess he gets half credit for not fucking up a state that was already working well.

So basically Perry is what you'd get if Clinton campaigned as a conservative. Not my cup of tea. On the hand, what are the options? Obama said he doesn't know what he's doing, then proved it. Romney did mess up his state. None of the others are likely to be nominated. Between Perry and Barak Fail Obama, I gotta hold my nose and pick Perry.

Bachman and Palin need no comment. So we're left with honest but wacky Ron Paul, Huntsman, or Cain. Cain has shown leadership in his career, something Obama wouldn't recognize if it hit him in the face. Cain knows economics and what gets businesses hiring. The polls suggest that he doesn't know much about how to campaign.

Huntsman too seems like a good but so far hasn't managed to get the spotlight.

Athough I voted against Perry for governor and I'll vote against him in the primary, I'm afraid in 2012 I may have to vote for him and hope he doesn't screw up the county just like he didn't screw up Texas. A vote for Obama would be a vote for a depression.

Wizzo 09-08-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18411855)
I've lived in Texas for the whole of Rick Perry's tenure. Let me tell you what a typical Texan has seen.

The economy here is better than most places. There have always been jobs available even for unskilled workers at wages that are ok for our cost of living.

I bought a decent three bedroom house for under $100,000, so here an unskilled entry level job that pays $12.50 isn't too bad. Obviously you want to move beyond entry level, but a young couple can certainly pay a mortgage.

Most Texans I know see Perry as being a lot like Clinton - fairly competent as far as politicians go, and no more trustworthy than "slick Willy" Clinton. That makes sense given that Perry was Al Gore's campaign manager - Perry and Clinton run is the same circles and both act like used car salesmen.

Texas has done better through this recession than the rest of the country but we attribute that more to holding on to the self sufficient entrepenurial spirit of the founders rather than crediting the governor. Obviously low tax rates have helped keep businesses here and having no state income tax eases the burden on everyone. Both of those pre-date Perry, so he doesn't get credit for them. I guess he gets half credit for not fucking up a state that was already working well.

So basically Perry is what you'd get if Clinton campaigned as a conservative. Not my cup of tea. On the hand, what are the options? Obama said he doesn't know what he's doing, then proved it. Romney did mess up his state. None of the others are likely to be nominated. Between Perry and Barak Fail Obama, I gotta hold my nose and pick Perry.

Bachman and Palin need no comment. So we're left with honest but wacky Ron Paul, Huntsman, or Cain. Cain has shown leadership in his career, something Obama wouldn't recognize if it hit him in the face. Cain knows economics and what gets businesses hiring. The polls suggest that he doesn't know much about how to campaign.

Huntsman too seems like a good but so far hasn't managed to get the spotlight.

Athough I voted against Perry for governor and I'll vote against him in the primary, I'm afraid in 2012 I may have to vote for him and hope he doesn't screw up the county just like he didn't screw up Texas. A vote for Obama would be a vote for a depression.

Great post! :thumbsup

crockett 09-08-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18410729)
Lol who gives a fuck if they are low paying, they are NOT paying below min wage, and now the people are not sitting at home collecting welfare.
You make it sound like he made them take the jobs like slavery.

You would complain if he didn't create jobs.

Umm yes they can. There was even a big ordeal about Walmart the nations largest employer telling it's employees how they could get on welfare. Most of those so called jobs he created don't even play $10/hr, do you know how hard it is even to live on $10/hr in this country?

Think about it for a moment.. that's $400 a week "before" taxes.. So at best someone making $10/hr is bringing home $360/week or so. Now keep in mind most of those jobs he supposedly created aren't even playing $10/hr, so yea they are still earning poverty level income and can collect food stamps & probably even welfare depending what their housing costs are.

Smoke & Mirrors just like every other politician..

The biggest thing that likely helped Texas job growth was it's population growth. The cost of housing is low there compared to the other go 2 spots. It's common sense to figure out if people are moving into the state, that more jobs will be created.

I dunno what housing costs are out there right now but I went out to Austin a few years ago there were tons of houses under $80k in the suburbs like Round Rock and else where in the area (this was even before the bubble popped). I also checked out Dallas/Forth-worth which was cheaper but also more ghetto. IMO that's the biggest reason for the population growth and added jobs. It's like Florida was in the 80's, affordable to live at lower wages.

CamJack 09-08-2011 12:19 PM

Rick Perry is George Bush v2.0

I hate he uses Rick too.
It's Richard which equals Dick.

PornoMonster 09-08-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18412297)
Umm yes they can. There was even a big ordeal about Walmart the nations largest employer telling it's employees how they could get on welfare. Most of those so called jobs he created don't even play $10/hr, do you know how hard it is even to live on $10/hr in this country?

Think about it for a moment.. that's $400 a week "before" taxes.. So at best someone making $10/hr is bringing home $360/week or so. Now keep in mind most of those jobs he supposedly created aren't even playing $10/hr, so yea they are still earning poverty level income and can collect food stamps & probably even welfare depending what their housing costs are.

Smoke & Mirrors just like every other politician..

The biggest thing that likely helped Texas job growth was it's population growth. The cost of housing is low there compared to the other go 2 spots. It's common sense to figure out if people are moving into the state, that more jobs will be created.

I dunno what housing costs are out there right now but I went out to Austin a few years ago there were tons of houses under $80k in the suburbs like Round Rock and else where in the area (this was even before the bubble popped). I also checked out Dallas/Forth-worth which was cheaper but also more ghetto. IMO that's the biggest reason for the population growth and added jobs. It's like Florida was in the 80's, affordable to live at lower wages.

Guess you better raise Min wage then...

PornoMonster 09-08-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18411801)
I'd rather work a low paying minimum wage job than sit there crying on an internet forum about not having a job; but that's just me.

There is no shame in working for minimum wage. There is no shame in having a hard working job.

Finally minimum wage jobs help youth get into the workforce, as well as others who would be otherwise unemployable.

Great Post!

Seems the real issue these people have is they think Min wage is to low.

Everyone who posts about living on Min wage, try living on welfare, the other option.

I did speak to soon about them collecting welfare on min wage, I should of said, they do not collect as much.
Even soldiers in the military qualify for food stamps!!!

PornoMonster 09-08-2011 01:20 PM

Let me also add, do I think this Perry guy did this? NO. Do all politicians take credit for good stuff that happens while they are in office and deflect the bad stuff, YES.
I am only atticking the low paying part of the OP's statement.
Guess Americans shouldn't eat hamburgers.... We can pay them more than min wage if a happy meal cost $20.

Paul Markham 09-08-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18411004)
Sorry, wrong.. No politician has the political will to do what's needed.. The US is a me me me society where everyone is out for themselves regardless of whether or not the long term results of that end up destroying themselves. The "free market" is too ingrained in the US mindset that anything else isn't even considered. The US is all about getting out of the way of business and letting it do it's thing, even if that means fucking up the US. There's no "let's work together for the benefit if the US and each other" but instead it's every man for themselves.

The US needs manufacturing in order to stave off becoming a country of low paying service jobs. But the policies in the US aren't geared towards creating and keeping manufacturing, not to mention ensuring that there are no trade imbalances. How long has that been going on with China?

Germany is a great example of how the US could achieve what's needed but they'd never implement the sorts of policies that would be required.

Pretty good article here about Germany
http://prospect.org/cs/articles?arti...conomic_engine

Will or not, I doubt if they even know how and keep their funding at the same time. You're spot on the US is a "ME" society rather than an "US" society.

Redrob 09-08-2011 01:33 PM

Perry will kill the adult industry in exchange for fundamentalist Christian support. A vote for Perry is like voting to get shut down and go to jail.

You'd have to be a complete idiot, moron, cretin to be in this industry and vote for Perry.

Just wait until he hands your ass over to God's new Inquisition for repentance.

He'll "let God sort it out."

You can really have the opportunity to "Go Fuck Yourself".

Just my opinion.:pimp

PornoMonster 09-08-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 18412551)
Perry will kill the adult industry in exchange for fundamentalist Christian support. A vote for Perry is like voting to get shut down and go to jail.

You'd have to be a complete idiot, moron, cretin to be in this industry and vote for Perry.

Just wait until he hands your ass over to God's new Inquisition for repentance.

He'll "let God sort it out."

You can really have the opportunity to "Go Fuck Yourself".

Just my opinion.:pimp

This is said about all of them. Name one real canidate that "supports" the adult industry!
Sure he is a religious NUT, but I think the 1st admin beats him every time.

Paul Markham 09-08-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18410927)
It is possible to have less government spending with more jobs...

Can you explain this please. Because it seems to have escaped a lot of very clever people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18411333)
Good then you go work one of them. Tell us how that works out. We have 14 million unemployed. If you think giving all of them minimum wage jobs is the answer to solving our economic problems your sorely mistaken.

Minimum, maximum or what ever wage. First thing to be done, is create the need for the workers, then the jobs appear.

Are they all going to be flipping burgers, selling in a mall or doing what?

I know I sound like a broken record but, the problem is shipping the jobs overseas.

I phoned Barclaycard last week, they fucked up my statement. Got through to India. Looked at the box of a WD hard drive I burned for a client, said made in Thailand. Go to a porn show and see where all the sex toys are made. Far East. In fact try and find something made in the US. Should keep you busy for a while.

Everyone talks as if jobs are just created. Well it seems they're not.

Connor 09-08-2011 01:52 PM

After Obama... I lost interest in presidential politics.

Bottom line is this guy got into office on a platform of "hope and change" and then once IN office, acted just like a typical Wall Street puppet president and proved the cynics right who said it matters little who gets elected.

In so many ways... Obama = Bush.

So will Perry be all that different? We'll probably have some obnoxious hits on the cultural front, but basically huge corporations will be allowed to rape and pillage the rest of us just as they're allowed to right now. Banks will fuck us. Insurance companies will fuck us. Lawyers will fuck us. Just like now.

I had high hopes for Obama, and he let us all down big time. I understand that he can't get huge things past this Republican congress, but he could have at LEAST spent the fucking time TRYING and working on getting Americans used to the idea of tackling corporate overlords, Wall Street and big banks for the benefit of a healthy working middle class. Instead, he asked Wall Street how they'd like their government blowjob.

So bring on Perry... it doesn't fucking matter. We're fuk'd either way.

Minte 09-08-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor (Post 18412613)
After Obama... I lost interest in presidential politics.

Bottom line is this guy got into office on a platform of "hope and change" and then once IN office, acted just like a typical Wall Street puppet president and proved the cynics right who said it matters little who gets elected.

In so many ways... Obama = Bush.

So will Perry be all that different? We'll probably have some obnoxious hits on the cultural front, but basically huge corporations will be allowed to rape and pillage the rest of us just as they're allowed to right now. Banks will fuck us. Insurance companies will fuck us. Lawyers will fuck us. Just like now.

I had high hopes for Obama, and he let us all down big time. I understand that he can't get huge things past this Republican congress, but he could have at LEAST spent the fucking time TRYING and working on getting Americans used to the idea of tackling corporate overlords, Wall Street and big banks for the benefit of a healthy working middle class. Instead, he asked Wall Street how they'd like their government blowjob.

So bring on Perry... it doesn't fucking matter. We're fuk'd either way.

If it makes any difference. Obama has shaved 3 strokes off of his golf score.

garce 09-08-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18410705)
Claims he created 1 million jobs in Texas. Yes jobs that whose main skill is asking me if I want to large size my combo meal. You go Rick.

I guess the jobs he created had little to no impact on the economy, as Alberta is the top labour market in North America. http://business.financialpost.com/20...merica-report/

Yet another politician spewing bullshit. It doesn't matter what country or province or state they represent - everything that comes out of a politicians mouth is steaming, stinking brown ooze. If you think ANY politician is going to make your life any better, you are sadly mistaken.

2MuchMark 09-08-2011 02:08 PM

http://www.frostcall.com/wp-content/...rick_perry.jpg

2MuchMark 09-08-2011 02:11 PM

Does Rick Perry have a porn problem?

Quote:

Here's an interesting tidbit from Rick Perry's past to keep an eye on. In the mid-1990s, the presidential candidate owned stock in a video rental store chain whose hardcore porn offerings drew the ire of conservative groups, according to a 2006 report on a liberal Texas blog. That item was resurrected by several liberal websites this week.

Burnt Orange Report, a site founded by a Democratic activist, reported in 2006 that Perry's 1995 financial disclosure showed he owned between $5,000 and $10,000 in stock in the company Movie Gallery. He was at the time state commissioner of agriculture.

Why is that significant? Because the now-defunct Movie Gallery, once a competitor to Blockbuster, was known for offering XXX porn rentals along with conventional Hollywood fare. (FireDogLake offers a useful sampling of titles here.)
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StickyGreen 09-08-2011 02:22 PM



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