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dgraves 09-13-2011 02:35 PM

Talent Charge
 
i'm a unique situation where male talent are willing to pay me to feature them in my videos but i'm not sure what the legalities are with this. they want to pay to be guaranteed a spot in the video.

Jon Oso 09-13-2011 02:42 PM

I don't know the legalities behind it but I know there was a "studio"/"production company" that was charging between 350-500 for "aspiring producers" to come in and use their equipment and "models" to shoot scenes. They are/were local. I know they switched up their operating methods and are now doing who knows what, but basically you'd pay like 350 bucks to shoot content with a bunch of other people, or pay 500 bucks to be a "producer/performer" and fuck the "models" on camera.

Guy must be really desperate to be the next big thing if he's willing to pay you to use him for content. I'd use him either way just because he's that determined.

dgraves 09-13-2011 02:46 PM

cool, thanks for the feedback. at one point i was paying the talent but the demand is so high right now that i had to turn a lot away so now they are offering money to be in a video. i looked at it the same way and like the enthusiasm.

Young 09-13-2011 02:50 PM

I'd hate to be the model on the receiving end of that deal.

Jon Oso 09-13-2011 02:52 PM

I was going to link to the site but I think it's down for the count.

Either way it will be a good time. Either the guy fails and it's funny, or he does well and you have someone you can call up for content.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-13-2011 02:59 PM

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...6_973211_n.jpg

I get e-mails from guys volunteering to perform for free all the time. :1orglaugh

My understanding is that the model release (agreement) is significantly more enforceable for the photographer if they pay the model even $1.

Also, I tend to ascribe to the maxim that you get what you pay for. :winkwink:

ADG

DBS.US 09-13-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18425279)
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...6_973211_n.jpg

I get e-mails from guys volunteering to perform for free all the time. :1orglaugh

My understanding is that the model release (agreement) is significantly more enforceable for the photographer if they pay the model even $1.

Also, I tend to ascribe to the maxim that you get what you pay for. :winkwink:

ADG

You get what you pay for:2 cents:

alias 09-13-2011 03:04 PM

2 crack rocks, payable directly to model.

L-Pink 09-13-2011 03:13 PM

Since porn is now free seems you've found a way to make it profitable. :winkwink:

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dgraves 09-13-2011 03:14 PM

i guess i could always classify this is a "paid" audition.

dgraves 09-13-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18425310)
Since porn is now free seems you've found a way to make it profitable. :winkwink:

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lol, true

my intent wasn't to make money off male talent but when they are willing to pay to be in one of my videos then who am i to argue.

dgraves 09-13-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18425285)
You get what you pay for:2 cents:

the question is, will i get what they pay for?

raymor 09-13-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18425279)

My understanding is that the model release (agreement) is significantly more enforceable for the photographer if they pay the model even $1.

Good point.
If anyone wants more information, the legal term to Google is "exchange of consideration" and it's a required part of an enforceable contract.

The contract has to have you doing something for him, and him doing something for you. Letting him screw the girls for money of course sounds like prostitution and therefore an unlawful contract. He could pay you for promoting him as talent by putting him in your video. He's pays $200 for promoting him by way of "product placement" in the video. Seperately, you pay him $20 as an actor.

ilnjscb 09-13-2011 05:25 PM

They are guys that want to pay to fuck porn girls but don't want to pay the $1500 they have to pay from an escort agency, which will generally have established mature stars.

NaughtyRob 09-13-2011 05:29 PM

Sounds about right.

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18425596)
They are guys that want to pay to fuck porn girls but don't want to pay the $1500 they have to pay from an escort agency, which will generally have established mature stars.


JP-pornshooter 09-13-2011 05:32 PM

and dont tell him its bare boy/boy scenes..

dgraves 09-13-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18425331)
Good point.
If anyone wants more information, the legal term to Google is "exchange of consideration" and it's a required part of an enforceable contract.

The contract has to have you doing something for him, and him doing something for you. Letting him screw the girls for money of course sounds like prostitution and therefore an unlawful contract. He could pay you for promoting him as talent by putting him in your video. He's pays $200 for promoting him by way of "product placement" in the video. Seperately, you pay him $20 as an actor.

interesting points here...

spazlabz 09-13-2011 05:33 PM

I figure if a guy is going to pay you to get a piece of ass on film he probably would not last 3 minutes with an actually breathing, wet and ready female... maybe you could do a premmie ejac site with them HA!

dgraves 09-13-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18425616)
I figure if a guy is going to pay you to get a piece of ass on film he probably would not last 3 minutes with an actually breathing, wet and ready female... maybe you could do a premmie ejac site with them HA!

i have a few fast poppers now and it actually works out pretty good for the glory hole stuff. i even had a few guys that popped before they were hard. it doesn't seem to matter to members and they like the variety.

ilnjscb 09-13-2011 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18425616)
I figure if a guy is going to pay you to get a piece of ass on film he probably would not last 3 minutes with an actually breathing, wet and ready female... maybe you could do a premmie ejac site with them HA!

way to upsell - charge by the minute :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

spazlabz 09-13-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18425637)
i have a few fast poppers now and it actually works out pretty good for the glory hole stuff. i even had a few guys that popped before they were hard. it doesn't seem to matter to members and they like the variety.

I have seen a couple videos where dude blasts jollies way to early and I think they are incredibly entertaining and a nice change of pace -- no pun intended

dgraves 09-13-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18425645)
I have seen a couple videos where dude blasts jollies way to early and I think they are incredibly entertaining and a nice change of pace -- no pun intended

i agree. for my type of content i don't want a dude to last 20 minutes. i have a few of those and end up cutting most of it out. i try to keep it to around 2-3 minutes of the blowjob scene then the pop.

dgraves 09-13-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18425279)
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...6_973211_n.jpg

I get e-mails from guys volunteering to perform for free all the time. :1orglaugh

My understanding is that the model release (agreement) is significantly more enforceable for the photographer if they pay the model even $1.

Also, I tend to ascribe to the maxim that you get what you pay for. :winkwink:

ADG

i wonder how hollywood does it when they use extras off the street.

when girls gone wild was at the phoenix forum a few years ago they were filming in one of the bars and i asked one of the camera guys how they dealt with the "consent" issue and he said they ask the girls on camera if it's ok if they film them. there's no payment, just consent.

granted they just got flashing stuff but it's the same principle.

ManPuppy 09-13-2011 06:10 PM

Why not simply pay them $1 for their performance, but charge them $300 for the "Special One of a Kind Director's Cut" dvd instead? Wouldn't seem all that different from paying $15 for that Polaroid that's automatically taken of you screaming like a ninny on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney World.

dgraves 09-13-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManPuppy (Post 18425697)
Why not simply pay them $1 for their performance, but charge them $300 for the "Special One of a Kind Director's Cut" dvd instead? Wouldn't seem all that different from paying $15 for that Polaroid that's automatically taken of you screaming like a ninny on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney World.

not a bad idea. my "audition" fee would be a lot less than $300 though. i was thinking something like $20-$40 per person because i would still be using the content.

btw, i wasn't screaming like a ninny because of the ride...something flew into my eye


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