There's a hole in the bucket.
 

The problem is it's too easy to put up a site, give items away for free and skim 1-1,000s to buy something. Sometimes something tangible sometimes you just view. No one ever cared about the 999 they were losing they only counted the 1 that bought. This applies to anything online.

In adult even more.

So anyone who claims to be doing better than ever. Be honest is that because traffic growth is staying in front of the ever widening ratios or you are actually converting more people from the same number of viewers?

Online adult never thought of the day when online viewers in countries it could bill would slow down to the level that free really started to hurt them. Or when not only that took effect but the exodus to free over took the the growth in Internet connection in countries we could sell to effectively.

Now we've arrived at this time. Free Tubes that make joining a paysite less relevant, MFC that's starting to hit web cams and soon it will be dating. Then maybe the funding for Tubes will dry up and they will become less profitable. Still will it bring paying customers back or will Tubes adapt to the new revenue income to stay profitable?

There's a hole in the bucket and unless it can be fixed the water will keep flowing out, it used to be a leak, now a flow. Who ever holds the bucket the flow will be theirs.

as long as there is no 2 holes, it's fine for me.

:1orglaugh

Weren't you asking for sites that still convert. It was a very small thread. :1orglaugh

If there were only 2 holes it would be fine there are more like 2,000. Adult online every day gets to look like a sieve.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...n/102_8159.jpg

This is the best I could find to describe it. It seems to fit.

Paul, are you suggesting giving away free porn is something you think is a bad idea?

That is very interesting thinking and certainly gives me food for thought.

You should post these innovative thoughts and ideas more often rather than just repeating yourself like a madman.

i seriously think he confused coming up with an analogy with coming up with a new idea. this is just getting sad now.

I've decided to update the picture of the bucket.

Tomorrow will have to do it again and make more holes.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/bucket.jpg

Mr Moronic post. I'm suggesting people have just woken up to the fact free porn is bad. Well some people.

And more importantly that no one has a repair kit, assuming there is one. I'm thinking, after seeing the lack of ideas to fix the hole. That there isn't one or no one has an idea what one is.

Sad from the great innovators of porn, the side of porn that was breaking new ground and for a month or 2 made more money than offline, as offline declined faster than online.

What will your next job be?

Please look at this. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18480787&postcount=175

I've actually got one. Yes got a new income stream. So now have 4. Private pensions, Internet, invalid pensions and not the new part time job. :thumbsup

Free porn is the the devils work.

Then the Devil has won.

You have picked up awesome skills and able to take them into other sectors, some haven't. Being suckled on the tit of sponsors and never weaned, they will find it tough. Guys like Damian with little skills are truly screwed. A CV with a history of working in porn doing what he was doing isn't going to get him a job anywhere but the most menial of jobs.

His future in proper offline marketing. :1orglaugh

your mail order bride was able to get a cleaning job. there is life after porn.

I'm doing better than ever.

That's a ban coming.

ban why?

Oh, grow a fucking sack, you geriatric fucking lunatic.

By getting more traffic or converting more of what you have or got a part time job or started from such a low base up was the only way or just in your head? :1orglaugh

Your site is proof of how good you are. your posts about shooters copping a feel, proves you don't spend money to do business. In fact I've never seen anything to prove you do fuck all but talk big.

See sig for my past, I have one. :thumbsup

need a push out? i think you're stuck.

tubes gave out free stuff, what else they can do, that HOLE IS LIKE BLACK HOLE!

Thought I was on ignore?

ps, I'm doing better than ever :thumbsup

You can say most things about me. Eva is off limits. She hasn't done anything to deserve it.

I never have a go at your family or religion, just your views on porn and it's selling.

Eva is off limits.

one time you called me a pagan dog. we're even.

Yes, you have a PAST. Not a PRESENT or FUTURE making money online. That's the difference between you and Jel. Your success was making the cover of Cavalier magazine 20 years ago.

Speaking of big talkers, what is your main source of income, Paul?

Well the next hole will be more people going the Pimp roll move. When will we see big sites decide it would be easier and more profitable to turn their members area into a free tube site?

I'm a small fish, but get 10,000s of hits. Which everyone knows the conversion rate of. I convert all the FHGs, hosted banners, etc. To adverts for a free site.

The traffic comes and as we know with Tubes it sticks. Buy some, acquire some, get some guys to upload more videos, add free sponsors videos. And before you know it I'm selling ad space and affiliates have yet another hole in their ass.

I'm small fry and before you tell me I can't do it. I could, what if other bigger goes go that route?

Shap was on that route already, he looked at what Manwin was offering and the thought of going the full Tube route must of crossed his mind. He took the money and ran. Soon Manwin's offers won't be good enough to make others take the money and run.

Then MFC is already a thorn in web cams side. How long before another thorn gets stuck in?

Free Dating exists. When it grows it will take business from the "adult" dating sites.

This is evolution of the free porn model. We never stopped at giving away a biscuit to sell a packet, we gave away the packet.

So what happens then?

The advertisers and traffic buyers on Tubes can't pay for what they do now for the ads, ad and traffic prices drop. Tubes and everyone else feeding off the free porn model do what. Adjust their operation to a slimmer model?

Or will it implode and people will have to pay? That is the most unlikely scenario ever. More likely trolls will think about what I'm saying.

If you have traffic the easiest way to judge the future is to look at your ratios. Were they better or worse than this time last year? Not traffic flow, ratios. Getting more traffic to fill the leaking bucket has got us to here.

It works for the one getting the traffic, until the one losing it takes the traffic back. The growth in online connections IN THE PLACES WE CAN SELL TO isn't replacing the losses now.

And anyone who thinks it will improve when the economy improves is a fool. Look at the Euro Zone for that answer. Then pray those who have discovered free porn want to return to buying.

Last year was our best year ever. Traffic/sales ratio has always been about the same (about 1/500). The only thing is that we have to update more frequently to get the same amount of sales.

This year is going to be a bit worse than last year but I don't blame that to piracy but to having to take new productions offline due to a copyright issue which may be solved later.

I think there will always be a good market for good content. Producers producing crap will be destroyed first by the piracy and I don't think I can be sad about that. The strong survive.

We still plan to start giving our older content away for free because we're sure it will generate a lot of traffic and it will make our site work as a magnet, people can watch our porn in higher resolution/qualiy, no pop-up banners, no spyware so we take away their reason to go google on our videos and watch them on crap tubes.

If all producers would start doing this and tube each other's videos, the whole existing tube industry would blow up within a few months, and even better, we have the tube sites promoting our new thing for free because most tubes don't bother to remove our watermarks.

For next year we're planning new fetish sites from which we're expecting good things.

Remember, people don't go to tube sites because they like to go to tube sites. They go there because they want to see OUR videos. And the more difficult we make things for these tube sites, the more people will start pulling their credit cards again and buy our porn from US directly.

ADG

Wouldn't It Be Nice...
 

Let's imagine a paralle universe where there are no torrents, no tubes, no free porn anywhere... everything was run by DRM and if a person wanted to see porn they would have to pay for it... what a world !

Alas guess what... there is tubes, there are torrents, and there is free porn everywhere... and all the crying about it aint going to change it, it's too late the horse as bolted... adapt or die...

All these threads aint going to change shit... :disgust

Really? Oh what a shame, that scuppers Paul's awesome idea that we stop free porn.

Now what the FUCK is he going to post about?

Hmm...
 

Probably how bad my photographer is, that should keep him plenty busy !

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...1427870325.jpg

Please explain for Paul the content shooter, exactly how he should adapt... :)

ADG

Well...
 

To be fair he doesnt really need to adapt... for a start he's retired right ? So I guess he's made enough money from the industry, and inparticular his work for magazines back in the day...

He obviously still as his content store to bring in a flow of income to keep his enjoying the lifestyle he likes...

I guess he just needs to keep thrusting his opinion down people's throats, every one of course is entitled to their opinion... but when it's going on about stuff that cant be changed seems pointless... maybe it's just a clever way to draw attention to his content, maybe he is a marketing genius after all :thumbsup

Paul until you try it you shouldnt give any tips on it

I'm the gap ...

Rah rah rah we're going to smash the oiks!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh too funny!

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And all these posters ain't going to change it either.

That's the saddest part.

I doubt if there is a way out of it.

I made a post and so far no one has been able to say anything constructive about how it's wrong. Just a lot of stupid posts.

I'm not crying as I earned my money and got out. If you haven't secured your future, you're the one who will be crying.

If you don't have the business sense to get him to contact me or someone who can help him, that's your loss. Not mine and not your affiliates, they see what the problems are when they hit the site or the traffic doesn't convert. So trolling me about me helping you to get better pictures is stupid, get a better shooter or get him trained.