Update: Seeing a stripper at her work
 

Update: 3 months later we are great friends.

* Good news: I am not even close to the "customer zone", and never was with this stripper. She was not gaming me at all, ever.

* Bad: I am completely, 100%, in the "friend zone".

We go out, I pay for dinner, then next time she whips out her wallet and pays for dinner. We talk almost every day SMS or email. I see her twice a week. Yesterday I went to LA and we spent the entire day together. I even stayed at her place, slept in her bed next to her, but but no sex, not even a backrub. She said it would be weird "because we are friends".

So basically it went from (day 1) giving her backrubs in my bed while she's wearing nothing but a thong, to (last night) no touching at all "because it's weird".

Last weekend she said she decided to go back to her old boyfriend. He is a heavyweight UFC fighter. I'm fit, fashionable, intellegent, showered. He's huge, fat, hairy, but "strong and manly". How can a computer programmer compete with that?

* Worst case scenerio - She told me that this UFC fighter is really aggressive and possesive. Let's hope he doesn't find out I slept in her bed.

Pics or it didnt happen? This is her, I won't post pics of us together, since, you know, because of the whole the 250lbs UFC fighter guy thing.

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Original thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1033064

You're a fag.

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You probably need to find another girl to hang out with (one you fuck). This doesn't sound like it's going to end well for you.

WHY???

THATS WHY!


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Fucked that one up, please try again! Good news though there's lots of strippers in the world! :winkwink:

Sounds like you are too nice to date a stripper. Or gay. :1orglaugh

At least she's paying for dinner.

Umm the strippers are nice to you for a reason.....You might be taking it the wrong way. They hustle, and you and every other guy she comes in contact with are always in the "customer zone".

Should have pulled her hair and fucked her doggystyle.... that what she really wanted.... backrubs..... lol

So you wake up with glitter on you but no pussy. I would consider that striking out.

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Stripper = Bad idea.

I think that's the deal.

Kinda fucked that one up big time.

Good news is, I just got a job working at a studio in Hollywood where they make music videos. There are musicians, models and groupies walking through there all day.

time to accept that you are gay man.

Don't let any girls see you with a broom in your hand or you'll be lucky to give a back rub.

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:1orglaugh Ok I won't

Totally that's what she wanted. Each time I tried to get away with more, she flinched, but I should have pressed on. I think it's what she really wanted.

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If you are serious, dude, she is a 45 year old stripper, who cares!

u slept in her bed last night, but she told you she was going back with her exboyfriend last week? who's 'really possessive'?

lol awesome

You didn't fuck anything up, you never had a chance. Don't feel bad lol

But really, at least she isn't totally using you. I think she's sniffed you out pretty good though. I have known strippers, and girls who are good at it are their own breed.

Once a friend told me, when my man opened his wallet in a bar to pay for drinks, "honey don't mind me, I always look when a guy opens his wallet, it's reflex." :1orglaugh

And that is the absolute truth. She totally looked when you opened your wallet. :1orglaugh

Oh, additional information: The boyfriend lives in New Jersey. She lives in LA.

You should be safe then. You can always stalk his FB page to see when he is coming to visit so you can hide. :1orglaugh

i agree. you sound a little bit light in the loafers.

do you hold her purse while he fucks her too?

That is where you went wrong.

She wants a real man.

she just wants you for emotional dependence but not the cock, ask her for a blowjob and see what she says.

So you came on GFY asking for advice and we gave it too you. Basically we told you to be an unreliable jerk to her. You ignored our advice. No pussy for you.

Most women like her will not seriously consider dating a beta male until they are 30 to 35 years old. By then they have fucked a few hundred guys, are worn, have at least one kid (with a jerk of a father who you now have to put up with) and are emotionally damaged. So they find themselves getting older and now they put up their SSD (super slut defense). They try to act like good girls and will not sleep with you for a few months. When they do they will make you wear rubbers and ask you if you have any diseases (they had sex the first time they "hung out" with most of the alpha males who came before you).

If you want a good looking young woman who wants to be happy with a respectful and caring man instead of living a drama fueled existence you will have to visit a country where the women were not raised on shows like Sex in the City.

Next time you see a woman like her walk up to her and say hello without any fear or hesitation. Then walk away and talk to other people. If you notice here giving you attention then talk to her gain. Tell a joke "to the crowd". As she is laughing with everyone ask for her number. Act like it is not big deal and pull out your phone fully expecting her to give it to you. After you have her number call her a day or 2 later and ask her to go hiking or something physical. Show up to hike and focus on your work out. Then tell her you have to be somewhere and be nice but short. Ask you are about to walk to your car say" hey we should grab some food this week". The night of the "date" cancel at the last moment. This will drive her nuts because nobody does this to her before. Now you have her attention. Move in the the kill.

It takes huge balls to stand a smokin hot girl up but is an almost surefire way to get her to want to ride your cock. Would be nice to be able to date model quality women and just be honest, polite, and charming, but it hardly ever works, at least not with American women who are 9's and above. :2 cents:

funny, talked to her today about something else and she mentioned a weird guy she's seeing that she's tried to fuck 3 times now and can never get hard.

while not as exciting, the 'new jersey' part has a bit of forbidding :winkwink:

By the way, she is not really all that hot. My advice at this point is to use her as a wing girl to attract other women.

I feel your pain. As you know, I'm a computer programmer. I'm a mega-nerd. Think 6 foot, 130 lbs, 180 IQ, nice guy.
I once gave a back rub to two naked women at the same time and didn't fuck either of them.
I was about 30 years old before I found "the system" for scoring hot women. Get "The Game" by Neil Strauss.
After reading that book and applying the techniques, I was getting play from up to three women in a day.
I married an awesome chick, pretty hot, who is ten years younger than I.

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When dealing with women that are accustomed to being the center of attention, ******* is spot on. :2 cents:

Personally I decided to skip the drama, and chase women from countries where they are more attractive, very well educated, and grounded in their personal needs and expectations.

if there is ever a turn off is going home with a hot chick and she got some stinky ass fucking litter box in her apt/house, cant she take a photo somewhere other than in front of a cat shit box? lol ;)

geez, even seeing a litterbox brings about the horrible stench produced by those fucking rodents of a pet! talk about ruin it all. :1orglaugh

BTW, I am just as fucked up as the American women I chastise as I have passed up many amazing good looking women while pursuing only model quality stunners.

try to bang her friends asap

her boyfriend may be from Jersey but i am not buying the whole UFC angle


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well, you are obviously not a PUA, or you would have known... never get in the friend zone if you want to fuck a girl....

getting out of the friend zone and become a potential fuck friend again is very... very hard......

I think you should move on to the next stripper...

BTW... fucking strippers for free already is pretty difficult... not for everybody...

Yes, absolutely. While doing so, act with the confidence of a guy who is always surrounded by beautiful women. Being a cocky ass is NOT required, but often if women don't see a confident man available, the cocky asshole is close enough.

Beauty is interpretive. Even with all the models I shot for VirtuaGirl, and all the Internext conferences I've been to, she is by far the best looking girl I've ever seen.

This is why I got stuck in the friend zone - I liked her. If she was fat or ugly she would be crazy about me because I wouldn't care. I didn't plan on being in the friend zone, just happened.

Yes, plenty of videos of him on youtube, she has pictures with him. He fat and ugly like most UFC fighters - well I thonk so, but she thinks he's so amazing.

She found a gem.

shes laying in your bed naked and all you give her is a back rub?

good goin....

Believe me I kept pushing for more and she kept flinching. C'mon give it up on the backrub thing...I wasn't going to rape the girl..

Wait wait wait.. back up a minute.

You can't fucking be FRIENDS with a girl. That's outrageous.
Either fuck her or dump her. None of this FRIEND shit.

you have to set the rules. No one sleeps in my bed unless they are fucking me. Its blunt but to the point. Trying to be such a gentleman doesn't work its seen as weakness in that climate. Pushing when she says no in the times we live into today, isnt a good idea. I figure the whole bf thing is to get you to back off a little. you like her friendship hang with her ,if you are doing it hoping more will happen move on.

sure you can be friends. :) friends with benefits :pimp

Sucker. :1orglaugh

don't go for strippers, you are wasting their time. like many have said, using guys is their profession. she might not be using you for money but to be that guy friend she can hang out with without the need to fuck (or something similar).

there are plenty of hot chicks out there who do all sorts of shit. the key is to find one that is also into crazy sex because thats more fun. there is nothing worse than a hot girl who is a boring lay. you might have to play a bit of the jerk role at first, depending on the girl but eventually you can be more and more yourself but really if you constantly have to act like someone else and play these stupid teenager games, whats the point? its all about finding someone you can be yourself with and get what you want/need out of it. of course you'll have to give her some of the things she wants/needs. sometimes it work, often it won't. sucks, doesn't it?