Who here never had chicken pox as a kid or isn't vaccinated?
 

Tomorrow, go see your doctor, get vaccinated, no fucking about, no questions, just fucking do it.

I have about 70 of these cunts just on my face, just come out of a two day fever and will probably have permanent scarring.. completely out of the blue, not been around anyone in particular or anything. Probably just a random cough from a random person in a random store or something. It's often far worse in adults and it certainly seems to be in my case.

Just a FYI. I had the vaccination organised.. I just never got around to it, so no one to blame but myself.

Wow dude. That fucking sucks. Best of luck to you though and I hope that the shit clears up.

+100 I thought I was going to die! I read adults got 30-50 spots. I got 50 on one arm!

Talk about stupid -- I worked in the next cube to the guy who sold the vaccine to my whole area for years. Never asked him what he did. Never got the vaccine. After I recovered, looked it up, saw the name of the vaccine and went Ahhhhhh, that's what he did.

Just get the vaccine.

How many do you have on your crotch?

I had them, they go in your pee hole, throat, ass hole etc. Fuck the chicken pox.

Ok was not going to post anymore but feel I can offer you help. My kid had chicken pox last month. She has zero scarring even though she had about 20 scabs on her face. Here is what I did.

1. gave her baths in epson salt and baking soda 2 to 3 times a day. Use a very generous amount. She almost never itched any of her sores.

2. fed her fresh Royal Jelly. This is a super food and allows your body to heal so much faster. You can get it at whole foods in the cooler at the supplement section of the store. Take a 1/2 teaspoon two times a day. http://www.ysorganic.com/royal-jelly.html
Make sure it is the fresh version, not the paste or capsules. Royal Jelly loses it's potency really fast after exposed to oxygen or is allowed to warm up. Buy the smallest bottle you can and use it fast. I make sure to use it all up in 3 days because it is not as powerful after that.

3. A few of the scabs did get torn off when she as playing or rubbing her eyes while sleeping. I immediately put royal jelly on the open sore and put a band aid over it.

4. I used Laid in Montanna brand Emu Oil on all the scabs. Don't rub it in hard. Be very gentle when putting it on. This oil penetrates much better than anything else on the planet and after you put it on the scab will come off easier (which you don't want or you could get a scar). Just put it on 2 times a day and gently rub it in for a few seconds. The sores will disappear much faster.

5. Put band aids on any area that is getting friction with clothing, your pillow, etc. You don't want any scab to tear off. Don't fucking pick at it even a little bit.

You should have clear skin by this time next week. My kid has only one small scar on the back of her leg and that is because that is the only area I did not treat. I used the spot on the back of her leg as a " control" so I could see how effective the other methods were.

Every day or two I would alternate corsican helichrysum oil mixed with rose hip seed oil instead of using the emu oil. The emu oil acts as an anti-inflamitory. Don't get the crap oil at any store, you can get the premium oil at http://www.naturesgift.com/shop/?shop=1&itemid=774. No I don't have anything to do with that site other than being a customer. They have shitty looking site but only sell the best oils so they have a good rep. Again, apply the oil gently and then make sure to cover up or not touch your face at all and that includes rubbing your sores against anything that might rip scabs off.

She also cut herself badly below the eye and I used this helichrysum oil to degenerate her skin and now there is almost no sign of ever being cut. She cut her nose badly a few weeks ago and I had some royal jelly on hand. I put it on the open wound and it healed so fast and without any scar that it is almost a miracle.

If your scabs come off before they are ready you are much more likely to scar. Again, do not touch your fact other than to gently dab on the oils. Do this once when you wake up and a few hours before you go to bed. You don't want to go to bed right after putting the oils out because you might rub the scabs by tossing and turning.

That's one of the advantages of being born in one of the richest, most developed countries in the world: Completely free and mandatory vaccinations for all kids at a very early age.

Parents aren't really allowed to deny it for their child, you must have very valid reasons for the government/doctor to not inject your child with the vaccine.

Also: If you can get your hands on some authentic Dead Sea salts that is even better than the espon salt. It really does heal. A few cups on your bath will do. Otherwise use like 6 cups of epson.

On the bright side your immune system is learning some fighting skills, it's stepped up off the couch and is learning to kick ass, one day those new skills it's learned might protect you from a far more serious illness/disease such as a form of Cancer. If you had already received the vaccine it would only be like learning to play Street Fighter 2 on a Sega; the skills wouldn't translate well into reality.

We all have to decide whether to put our trust in our immune system which has been evolving for generations or to put our trust in the Pharms who regularly study our immune system. The reason they have to study it is because they don't yet understand it.


Some interesting info on the Chicken Pox Vaccine:-

- The Vaccine was designed for people with compromised immune systems (leukemic children)
- Chicken Pox Vaccine Immunity Lasts 5-10 years i.e. Temporary Immunity
- Chichen Pox Virus Provides Lifetime Immunity i.e. Permanent Immunity
- The people who die from Chicken Pox are mainly adults (20 times more likely)
- Those who die from Chicken Pox either had a compromised immune system or took an Aspirin and went down with Reyes Syndrome
- Long term effects of the Chicken Pox Vaccine are unknown; we have no data on what it does to you after 30 years

Another interesting point
- Mothers who have had Chicken Pox pass down partial immunity through their breast milk, meaning that if their child goes down with Chicken Pox it will be mild.

Conclusion
- It's best to get Chicken Pox as a young child. Mass vaccination will drive it into atypical older age groups where it is far more likely to cause permanent injury or death The only justification for the vaccine would be if one had a compromised immune system. Important note: Never take an Aspirin when you've got Chicken Pox. :2 cents:

I've copied some information below from a Dr Mercola article for those who would like to read more on this http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-epidemic.aspx

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Chickenpox—Another False Epidemic

Before the live virus chickenpox vaccine was licensed in the United States in 1995, most children acquired a natural, long-lasting immunity to chickenpox by age six. For 99.9 percent of healthy children, chickenpox is a mild disease without complications.

It is estimated there were about 3.7 million cases of chickenpox annually in the U.S. before 1995, resulting in an average of 100 deaths (50 children and 50 adults, most of whom were immunocompromised). This hardly represents a dire, life-threatening epidemic that requires mass vaccination of all children!

Chickenpox is caused by the varicella zoster virus, which is a member of the herpesvirus family and is associated with herpes zoster (shingles). Chickenpox is highly contagious but typically produces a mild disease characterized by small round lesions on your skin that cause intense itching. Chickenpox lasts for two to three weeks, and recovery leaves a child with long lasting immunity.

Half of all cases of chickenpox occur in children ages five to nine. Before the vaccine was licensed in 1995 and states started passing laws mandating that children get it to attend school, it was estimated that only 10 percent of Americans over the age of 15 had not had chickenpox.

Up to 20 percent of adults who get chickenpox develop severe complications such as pneumonia, secondary bacterial infections, and brain inflammation (which is reported in less than one percent of children who get chickenpox). Most children and adults who develop these serious complications have compromised immune systems or other health problems.

Although chickenpox is typically not dangerous, there is a related disease that is more of a cause for concern: shingles.

Chickenpox's Evil Cousin: Shingles

Chickenpox and shingles are related. They are caused by similar viruses, both in the herpesvirus family. After you recover from chickenpox, the virus can remain dormant ("asleep") in your nerve roots for many years, unless it is awakened by some triggering factor such as physical or emotional stress. When awakened, it presents itself as shingles rather than chickenpox.

Shingles is marked by pain and often a blister-like rash on one side of your body, left or right. Other symptoms can include headache and flu-like symptoms. Shingles typically runs its course in three to five weeks.

Although very painful, most people who get shingles will recover without serious complications and will not get it a second time. However, in people with weakened immune systems, shingles complications can be severe or life threatening. The most common complication is postherpetic neuralgia, or PHN, where the pain may last for months or even years after the rash has healed. The pain is caused by damaged nerve fibers, which then persist in sending pain messages to your brain.

Other less frequent complications include bacterial skin infections, Hutchinson's sign, Ramsay Hunt Syndrome, motor neuropathy, meningitis, hearing loss, blindness, and bladder impairment.

A person with shingles can infect someone who hasn't had chickenpox, who may then develop chickenpox rather than shingles.

If you do develop shingles, as I mentioned earlier this summer, you can use topical honey to treat shingles symptoms and it appears to work better than the drugs.

Chickenpox is Nature's Way of Protecting You from Shingles

Nature has devised an elegant plan for protecting you from the shingles virus.

After contracting and recovering from chickenpox (usually as a child), as you age, your natural immunity gets asymptomatically "boosted" by coming into contact with infected children, who are recovering from chickenpox. This natural "boosting" of natural immunity to the varicella (chickenpox) virus helps protect you from getting shingles later in life.

This is true whether you are a child, adolescent, young adult, or elderly—every time you come into contact with someone infected with chickenpox, you get a natural "booster shot" that protects you from a painful—and expensive—bout with shingles.

In other words, shingles can be prevented by ordinary contact, such as receiving a hug from a grandchild who is getting or recovering from the chickenpox. But with the advent of the chickenpox vaccine, there is less chickenpox around to provide that natural immune boost for children AND adults.

So as chickenpox rates have declined, shingles rates have begun to rise, and there is mounting evidence that an epidemic of shingles is developing in America from the mass, mandatory use of the chickenpox vaccine by all children.

As hard as scientists try to come up with ways to "improve" human biology, they just can't outsmart Mother Nature.. In trying to tinker with the natural order of things, we tend to destroy processes that nature has masterfully orchestrated to keep us healthy.

This dance between chickenpox and shingles is a perfect example.

Vaccine Protection is Only Temporary

The chickenpox vaccine is made from live, attenuated (weakened) varicella virus. But chickenpox vaccine provides only TEMPORARY immunity, and even that immunity is not the same kind of superior, longer lasting immunity that you get when you recover naturally from chickenpox.

It's important to realize that naturally acquiring a case of chickenpox is the ONLY way you can establish longer lasting immunity that will protect you until you come in contact with younger children with chickenpox and are asymptomatically boosted, which will not only reinforce your chickenpox immunity but will also help protect you against getting a painful case of shingles later in life.

When the chickenpox vaccine was licensed for public use in 1995, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) estimated it was 70 to 90 percent effective in preventing disease. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) later reported, "The effectiveness of the vaccine is 44 percent against disease of any severity and 86 percent against moderate or severe disease."

Continued here http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-epidemic.aspx

AFAK it's the same in all countries except for some really undevelloped African ones

If you get them as an adult, it's call Shingles.

I've never had them.

I got mine at the end of grade 4 so what is that? 9 years old?

It was a very hot summer and I was staying at my grandparents house at the time and that was before central air was common so the house was always hot. All that sweating made it spread like wild fire... I was so covered in them they had to take me to the hospital, i had literally hundreds all over. In my eyes, on my gums, on my tongue. They did xrays and even saw them on my lungs. That was probably the longest 2 weeks of my life... I tried about 100 remedies and medicines to help with the itching but the only thing that worked at all was oatmeal baths... something in it calms the nerves and the itch goes away.

other helpful itch remedies that work is ice. epson salts are good for the skin and cleansing etc.. but that may lead to itchiness, so i would try the ice after that if you can reach.

That basically sounds like hell on earth. I got the vaccine when I was 15 because I still hadn't gotten chicken pox despite my mother constantly forcing me to spend ample time with my friends who came down with it. This reminded me to check in with my doctor to see if I need a booster or anything.

the ruthless beauty of nature is that the genes of the anti-vaccine kooks will eventually be weeded out of the gene pool.

damn :(

I got a vaccination when I was a kid and STILL GOT THEM :mad: I was only about 10 or so, but it sucked big fat rhinoceros dick. They were in my ear, in my crack... everywhere!

Had it a long time ago. Still got some scars like small water drip marks on my chest where I scratched it.

Haha I bet Darwin didn't have that in mind originally but it definitely applies doesn't it? I'm still waiting on the inevitable "small pox was made by the illuminati!!!" post.


vitamin e cream/gel and lots of moisturizer gets rid of just about anything...

30 years too late probably.

It's the other way around, vaccines are the a "Bargain Basement Technology" as admitted by Dr Maurice Hilleman, former Chief Vaccine Researcher for vaccine manufacturer Merck.

"Vaccines have to be considered the bargain basement technology of the 20th Century."

Bargain Basement does not mean high quality, if I go down to my local £1 store and buy myself a keyboard or USB stick, most of the time it will turn out to be a pile of rubbish and cause me a lot of problems.

Do we get fit and strong by sitting on the sofa, or by going out and using our body? Our immune systems need to be used; if you don't use it you'll lose it.

Big Pharma isn't going to inject us with a substance that will reduce their overall profits, that would be mad, it's the opposite, it's in their interest to weaken our immune systems, to make them lazy and weak. They don't care about making us genuinely "Healthy", they care about $$$$$$$$$$. :2 cents:

Not quite - you can get shingles even if you had chicken pox (same virus, also same as herpes) , I had them in my 20s, like a short visit to hell

The Varicella Zoster virus initially causes Chicken Pox, afterwards the virus is not eliminated from the body and can go on to cause Shingles, often many years after the infection. :2 cents:

never had it

you are clueless. if you knew anything about him you would know he had a strange sense of humor which unfortunately gets twisted by kooks to prove their deluded agendas.

he spent his whole life developing said "bargain basement technologies" which saved countless lives and did it's part to help bring us out of the dark ages of superstition and ignorance.

why, prey tell, why would he devote his life to such technologies if he thought they were worthless? please use the bare minimum of logic and reason when posting your dribble next time.

The Vaccine Researchers don't tend to work out it's BS until it's far too late, quite a few of them have eventually come to similar conclusions. Here are some interesting quotes :2 cents:

- Jonas Salk, inventor of the first Polio Vaccine, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.

- "Crib death" was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination against diseases of childhood. --Harris L.Coulter, PhD.

- "Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS." --Dr. Gerhard Buchwald, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims.

- Dr. Michael Odent has written a letter in the JAMA (1994) where his figures show a five times higher rate of asthma in pertussis immunised children compared to non-immunised children. He is also quoted in the International Vaccination Newsletter (Sept. 1994): "Immunised children have more ear infections and spend more days in hospital."

- "Vaccination is expensive and represents a cost of one billion dollars annually. It therefore benefits the industry; most notably, the multinational manufacturers. One sells the vaccines. The other then provides the arsenal of medications to respond to the numerous complications that follow. Their profits increase while our expenses go through the roof. To the point where we have simply had it up to here and are ready to accept the unacceptable, such as socialised medicine in the United States, for example." --Dr Lanctot MD

- In the May 24, 1996, New Zealand Medical Journal, J. Barthelow Classen, MD, a former researcher at the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the founder and CEO of Classen Immunotherapies in Baltimore, reported that juvenile diabetes increased 60 per cent following a massive hepatitis B vaccination campaign for babies six weeks or older in New Zealand from 1988 to 1991. In the October 22, 1997, Infectious Diseases in Clinical Practice, Classen showed that Finland's incidence of diabetes increased 147 per cent in children under five after three new vaccines were introduced in the 1970s, and that diabetes increased 40 per cent in children aged 5 to 9 after the addition of the MMR and Hib vaccines in the 1980s. He concluded that "the rise in IDDM [juvenile onset diabetes] in the different age groups correlated with the number of vaccines given."

"This..forced me to look into the question of vaccination further, and the further I looked the more shocked I became. I found that the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instances of these diseases you will realise that this is not so . . . My final conclusion after forty years or more in this business [medicine] is that the unofficial policy of the World Health Organisation and the unofficial policy of the 'Save the Children's Fund' and ... [other vaccine promoting] organisations is one of murder and genocide. . . . I cannot see any other possible explanation. . . . You cannot immunise sick children, malnourished children, and expect to get away with it. You'll kill far more children than would have died from natural infection." --Dr Kalokerinos MD

"Two or three years ago there was a rash of positive HIV and hepatitis patients in Baltimore among people who would otherwise not be expected to have a positive test. When studied all of these people had received the influenza vaccine four to six weeks prior and this was rapidly covered up by the press." -- Dr. Eva Snead, Feb 2000

If vaccines are so effective in preventing disease why have epidemics occurred around the world following mass vaccination programs? In the Philippines for example, "after ten years of compulsory inoculation against smallpox (25 million shots) over 170,000 got smallpox and 75,000 deaths were recorded between 1911 and 1920" (from the Townsend Letter for Doctors article "Are Vaccines Generally Detrimental to the Human Defence System," Feb/Mar 1994).

"Sudden Infant Death Syndrome has been reported following administration of DPT. The significance is unclear. 85% of SIDS cases occur in the period 1 through 6 months of age, with the peak incidence at age 2 to 4 months." --From the accompanying insert to Connaught Labs DPT shot.

Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria, and measles occurred before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics." ---Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

"Measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis B, and the whole panoply of childhood diseases are a far less serious threat than having a large fraction (say 10%) of a generation afflicted with learning disability and/or uncontrollable aggressive behaviour because of an impassioned crusade for universal vaccination.......Public policy regarding vaccines is fundamentally flawed. It is permeated by conflicts of interest. It is based on poor scientific methodology (including studies that are too small, too short, and too limited in populations represented), which is, moreover, insulated from independent criticism. The evidence is far too poor to warrant overriding the independent judgements of patients, parents, and attending physicians, even if this were ethically or legally acceptable." --Association Of American Physicians & Surgeons

In my first post I used to word "degenerate" and meant to say "regenerate".

Order this brand of Dead Sea salts with lavender. The lavender will calm your sores. Put 2-3 cups in your bath. http://www.amazon.com/Lavender-Bath-.../dp/B0002BE5XU
Make sure the water is hot and soak for at least 15 minutes. This really works it is not a goofy theory. I realized this my first time in Israel after hiking for several days and having blisters all over my feet. I soaked in the Dead Sea and healed up in record time. Don't touch any of your sores that are scabbed over for a few hours after getting out of the bath because they can fall off easy. Just pat or drip dry because the towel can do damage as well. I was obsessed with making sure my kid did not get scars and felt guilty for not getting the vaccine so this is how I know all this. I researched everything for a few days to find out what works best. Now I am happy I did not get her the vaccine because with all vaccines there are risks. Good luck!

you didn't have it as a kid? that's bad news to get it as an adult

had it as a kid, and no scars. I was vaccinated, and I got it from the kid down the road and his was alot worse

What does she do for fun, juggle knives? lol

Not yet but she is fomenting her plans for world domination. She already hikes up mountains, goes camping/fishing, learns 3 languages, and has a job walking dogs. She is only 2 yrs old. Watch out world!

It was a nasty cut that normally would leave a bad scar but you can't even see it anymore unless you look really close. The dead sea salts are doing something to the scar tissue. There is no doubt. I also used that silicon gel on her scar for about a week and not sure if it helped or not.

Vitamin E [fish oil] can help reduce scarring as well. Good luck! :thumbsup