military action against Iran
 

Looks like a new war soon:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ddle-East.html

Nothing to see here really...are you that starved for attention?

Yes, and seems Netanyahu is now seeking cabinet support for strike on Iran.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-on-Iran.html

:disgust

lets hope israel is hit first.

well the one thing we have learned about the Arabs and the middle east lately is this: they all talk long shit until they are getting pulled from a sewer or some other shitty hole in the ground :2 cents:

From what I've read, Iran has a much more capable military then the previously defeated middle eastern countries.

yep, could be a long ass winter...

nuclear winter that is.

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hope there are no new wars starting anytime soon. the way the middle east is going if we just give it time the local population might rise up in Iran as well.

Gonna take out the Devil America too ...

Oh look yet another war for Israel, Oil and the Central Banking system.

Unfortunately they tried during the last election, but Ahmadinejad still has pimp hand there and the rioting left casualties and injuries but nothing else.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31238321...ins-iran-vote/

i really wish america didnt get involved in all this middle east shit, let them kill each other but lets stay out of it and bring our troops home. they both read a book that tells them to kill each other we never gonna stop them.

Your government is bought and paid for. The uprising in the middle east are also paid for by your government to justify to you the invasion as peace keepers when in reality it is oil theft.

Glad most of my money is in defense stocks. :)

Are you trying to say that the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain were ALL orchestrated by the government of The United States?

If Iran attacks US... Iran 1 - US 0 :2 cents:

we'll all be dead it takes at least 100 years. before it would clear up

The local population rising up is how they got Ahmadinejad into office.

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Let's just get it over with. Pinning Iran to the ground is going to take alot of muscle though.

LOL @ a bunch of indoctrinated Americans giving their opinions of middle east politics based on news reports from CBS, CNN, FOX News, etc. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You might as well give your opinions on the tooth fairy.

On what planet do you live? IN some countries it is even not a secret anymore.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

Unfortunately, they could far more capable than iraq, and it wouldnt matter one bit.

Unless they can somehow prevent the USA from gaining total air superiority (which I don't see how they can) then the US wont even have to land troops. Its cheap and effective drone strikes and tomahawk missiles for the next year till they are dead.

you wouldn't even have to roll in, just destroy the roads and infrastructure and watch them starve to death.

I'm guessing them trying to detonate a nuclear weapon on US soil (via terrorist means) would result in the entire country being turned to green glass on account of the US feeling the use of nuclear weapons is now warranted.

No, I dont think their military is even semi relevant. because in 2-3 months they'd be riding horses anyway.

If there is one thing we do right in the USA, its building weapons to keep 3rd world countries in the 3rd world.

And no, this wouldnt be another soviet - iran style war, because unlike troops, Drones dont get tired or demoralized. They are run 24/7 by teams of nerds who go home at night to be replaced by someone else waiting to press the DIE DIE DIE button.

As bad as it sounds. I really wouldnt be against us killing an bombing if the general population got its share of the spoils, and the government called it the Imperialism that it really is. I'm mainly against it because our government sends our citizens to die for corporate profit and doesnt even give the troops a slice of the action.

Just like they have been winning against the Taliban in Afghanistan, right?

Don't underestimate a population resisting a foreign occupation. The Taliban had way less weaponry than Iran could even dream of and is still fighting the US with all their airplanes and drones and all of that. It's funny how the idea that Iran would strike the US first is absurd and all these plans are for a first strike on Iran, but that's the reason the US is giving for striking Iran first, that Iran might one day somehow put the US in danger.

not again..

I'm sorry, but i'm going to need to see something a little more credible than youtube conspiracy videos to sway my opinion. Next you'll be trying to tell us that there's no such thing as Salafi Mujahideen such as Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizbul Mujahideen, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, The Abu Sayyaf Group, and the 20 or 30 other terrorist groups that I missed.


You middle eastern sympathizers are just as annoying as the AIPAC funded American Israel-firsters. You won't mention that the Sunni Arab states have been the most vehement in urging a U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, as the wikileaks cables have shown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6AS02B20101129 You won't mention the fact that the Iranians are completely surrounded by an overwhelmingly more numerous Sunni world that hates Shi'ites far more than it hates Westerners. You won't mention the fact that Egypt's Coptic Christian population is having their churches burned and being routinely killed.


The fact is that Islam is a militant religion, and these Mujahideen groups all seek the same thing: strict implementation of Sharia law in a restored Islamic Caliphate. If you do not think that Sharia law is totalitarian, then you should Google what life is like in Somalia under Al- Shabaab and what life was like in Afghanistan under the Taliban and what life was like in Iraq in areas controlled by al-Qaeda in Iraq. Sharia ranks among the most inhumane, barbaric and totalitarian legal codes ever devised by human beings. It governs every aspect (even the minutest aspects) of a person's life. Osama bin Laden once said that the Taliban form of government in Afghanistan was "the only truly Islamic government," implying that it should be replicated everywhere else.

And you will try to talk to me about muslim extremism and I live in country where USA armed and supported same those muslims to take 1/3 of my country, demolish churches and clean non Muslim residents? (hell yes, it happened 2 times in different parts in 10 years) I am not supporter of any middle eastern nation and there is no reason for that. It is their and absolutely their thing what they will do in their own country and how they will choose to live.

You tube video is not a montage made from stupid photos and music, it narrated directly by person who did it and openly did in my country for years (hanged on TV for so many years),and all of his collaborators are now rich people (they even got small island on Maldives!). If that is not enough for you , well....ok,but that's is exactly why USA must keep hundreds of military bases worldwide and embassies in trenches with barbwire. (ignorance and arrogance).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DJrNe...eature=related

Chasing a bunch of peasants around in the mountains in my mind is a waste of time. The group which was (supposedly) responsible for WTC bombings is more or less dismantled.

Iran on the other hand is an actual country. with Cities, an economy and some sort of global reach. If they as a country want to hide in the mountains from drones for the next decade, then I would consider that a reasonable victory.

I assure you if Bin laden didnt want to stick it out in the mountains, the city folk and towns folk in Iran wont want to either :1orglaugh

PS: US doesnt like to occupy shit. that would show us for the imperialists we really are.

From what I understand NATO supported the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia from Yugoslavia, which pissed of Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs who dominated the government and the political process. I was also under the impression that it was the Serbs who carried out the ethnic cleansing and genocide in that area, and that's why NATO stepped in. I'll admit I don't know much about the Balkan wars though.

Fucking great two broke ass countrys have the money to start yet another war

thank you for being honest. Well, it wasn't like that at all in a same way as there were no WMD in iraq and bullshit like that. If you really want to understand what happened, here it is one relatively new documentary (there are dozen available on same subject) where you will find in one place see how Musllims were armed by US in Tuzla during ceasefire and peace talks and how germany with US help and encouraged republics above to start war (giving them weapons at first place) .If you don't want to spend your time on things from history, it's fine and understandable but if you find time, take a look at this and you will see that those are serious things and it was nevers so simple as official explanation : http://www.movie2k.to/The-Weight-of-...ie-675439.html

You are right about most things however I don't think it's about Oil. I think that the people who hi-jacked America simply select countries that have oil for attack so American taxpayers will think that they will at least have something out of this. But in reality it's much more simple. It's simply about creating the demand to buy ridiculously overpriced military equipment from military industrial complex.

USA is the country that is run by bomb salesmen so it will never stop bombimbing.

If Iran has nukes... then who can blame them... when the west and Israel want to bomb them.

Get real. The people who have hijacked America are Zionists and Neo-Cons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

They are following this plan.

really all depoends on what russia and china decide

nice to dream about that but will never happen... America has too many civil liberties to ever retaliate against a nuke attack, it would violate their rights :2 cents:

bring back looting?

yes congratulations retard, you have cracked the big wide plan open. :1orglaugh

That's a pretty idiotic thing to say.

Do you even understand the ramification of an Israeli/Iranian war?

that would be nuclear war then, Israel and Iran would be use their weapons and shit will start

This link actually supports what I said, you see oil is the last on the list. I think that the Wolfowitz Doctrine is the concequence of this polocy of creating the demand for military hardware not vice versa. It is more of a political sharade that attempts to mascarade the endless invasions into small countries incapable of defending themselves as a political doctrine. It's just a big scam aimed at US taxpayer's dollar.

I don't really know who they are Zionists or neo-cons, I know that America has been hi-jacked.

They will decide the same thing that they decided with libya... to sit down and dont piss off the devil. China might be a economic powerhouse right now, and might have a vast army, but we are still the Angels of death.

Possibly, but I would note that we dont even have problems using regular bombs at all. I have a feeling your wrong...Lets agree to disagree and hope it never comes to nukes.

The US government already loots. I am fine with this. So long as they divide the spoils amongst the people that they 'Govern'. I am proposing equitable looting rights... not them giving to a handful of people.

LOL There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until the US invaded Iraq. You talk about Islam being a militant religion but can you show me when Muslims invaded another country halfway across the world? Now show me a Muslim country that has invaded two other countries by mass murdering the population. Doesn't happen. Bush himself said that the Iraq war was started because God told him to. Don't go blaming the bloodshed in the world on Islam, Islam did nothing until the Americans decided to go in and start bombing their countries.

Where do you get the information you have about Shiites and Sunnis hating each other? Before the Iraq and Afghanistan invasion the distinction was rarely, if ever, made between the two groups. The whole Sunni vs Shiites thing was manufactured by the US to help them with their invasion of Iraq.

So what I really meant to say is instead of making things up and pretending like you know something, why not try to actually educate yourself and learn a few things. That way people like me don't just come along and humiliate you and crush your ridiculous argument like a half finished cigarette on a windy day.

So are you saying if China invaded the US you would just give up? If Iranians won't hide and fight back then Americans sure as hell won't lift a finger.

I love how you paint a picture of the US where the US is too good of a nation to retaliate with nuclear weapons.

But in reality the only country to ever be fucked up and evil enough to EVER use a nuclear weapon against innocent people is the United States of America. You think you are at the top on the moral chart but really, you're at the very fucking bottom.

Don't ever forget that the biggest terrorist attack in all of human history was carried out by the United States of America against Japan. There has been no bigger terrorist attack or for that matter anything that even compares to the carnage and barbarianism the US showed with those bombs.

That's one of the reasons they hate us, they have a superiority/inferiority complex. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilization whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power. those people regard themselves as morally, culturally, religiously superior to Westerners, whose civilization they regard as decadent, corrupt and blasphemous. They are deeply affected when they see how weak they are economically and military compared to the West, especially considering Islam's history of conquering, subjugating and humiliating non-Muslims. They resent and despise the West for its power relative to theirs.


Islam is an aggressive, expansionist and imperialistic political ideology. It was spread throughout the Middle East, North Africa and Central and Southern Asia by military conquest. Under Sharia, non-Muslims living in territory conquered by Islam have three options. The first option is to convert to Islam. Those who refuse to convert are to accept an inferior status as second-class citizens (or "Dhimmis") and pay a special (and often financially devastating) tax known in Arabic as the "Jizya." Non-Muslims who refuse either of the first two options are to be killed.



Dont take my word for it though, just read the Qu'ran:




Want some more quotes from the Qu'ran? There's plenty more where that came from.

You obviously havent read the bible for hate speaches.

Your comparison between a capitalist industrialized country --and a third world dictatorship --is absurd.

:helpme

Socialists, the biggest murderers of all time:

http://a4cgr.files.wordpress.com/201...pg?w=500&h=323

Geeze it's amazing how once they lie and get away with it they just keep doing it and getting away with it...

Obama the peace-monger fersher...

Fuckwits.

:D

Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy—but the above quotations can be fairly said to convey the central message of the Qur’an—and of Islam at nearly every moment in its history. The Qur’an does not contain anything like a Sermon on the Mount. The result is a religious hatred that has become a problem for the entire world. And the world still waits for moderate Muslims to speak honestly about it.

Let me ask you this if it's such a peaceful religion then Is Denmark responsible for the massive rioting, killing and arson that followed the publishing of cartoons from an obscure Danish newspaper? Is Western foreign policy responsible in any way for inspiring that violence? Should we in the West be censoring ourselves from caricaturing Muhammad or insulting Islam because that would inflame Muslim opinion and harm our security interests?