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CDSmith 11-03-2011 08:45 AM

Women, ALL women, should carry a gun
 
Well, at least according to one US sherrif...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7A077X20111101


Quote:

""I really think that would send a message to some of these people that can't control themselves that you better be really cautious who you mess with because they might be armed," Wright told Reuters on Tuesday."

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"Since his remarks, Wright said, people have told him, "Thank you for saying what I've been thinking."


From an actual law enforcement official no less.

Full article here.

Fletch XXX 11-03-2011 08:46 AM

i live in area where there are more women concealed permits than other states :)

rhon23 11-03-2011 08:49 AM

I walk softly but I carry a big gun

potter 11-03-2011 08:51 AM

So what?

CDSmith 11-03-2011 08:55 AM

I had a girlfriend from the SF bay area, she used to work at a large hospital in the city years ago. She was up here visiting me and told me she carried a gun in her purse when going to work.

Honestly, it's not something that's ever come up with any local women I've ever dated, but I can understand someone living in pretty much any big US city wanting to carry. And frankly when it's someone you care about you want them to be able to protect themselves. As long as they know how to use the thing that is.

Up here in Canada things like mace, bear spray, tasers, etc, are illegal, only cops can use them.

CDSmith 11-03-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18534364)
So what?

Not everyone might agree with the guy. That's what.

potter 11-03-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18534378)
Not everyone might agree with the guy. That's what.

And that means it worthy of a thread on GFY? Wow.

brassmonkey 11-03-2011 02:20 PM

ok thanx for the info

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2011 02:26 PM

i miss the security of having a gun in the house but i gave up my glock after my daughter was born. when she is off to college i will get another one.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 11-03-2011 02:39 PM

Yes they should. :thumbsup

thickcash_amo 11-03-2011 04:47 PM

We should all carry guns....why the hell not, eh?

blackmonsters 11-03-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18535309)
i miss the security of having a gun in the house but i gave up my glock after my daughter was born. when she is off to college i will get another one.

I hear you, but maybe you can get a safe with a keypad combination that only you
know and put the gun in the safe in the bed room.

Practice hitting the key code in the dark and you are set.

Then periodically search your kids room and computer for a list of numbers they
have been trying. :1orglaugh

Yeah, that safe combination needs to be 5 digits and it can't start with 0 or 1.

If you think your kid read this thread however then start it with 0 or 1.

:1orglaugh

Jarmusch 11-03-2011 05:13 PM

They wouldn't need a gun if they stayed in the kitchen at all times.

And if a woman ever gets assaulted in her own kitchen, she has everything she needs to defend herself there: pots and pans, knifes, pepper, boiling water, etc..

cherrylula 11-03-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18535641)
They wouldn't need a gun if they stayed in the kitchen at all times.

And if a woman ever gets assaulted in her own kitchen, she has everything she needs to defend herself there: pots and pans, knifes, pepper, boiling water, etc..

Very true. :1orglaugh

I was just going to post, I don't think I would want to be in any daily situations where I felt so unsafe I would need to carry a gun. I would change my living arrangements. Move, change job, etc.

I'm not afraid of handling a gun, or shooting someone threatening my life. I just would not want to live that way.

garce 11-03-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18535641)
They wouldn't need a gun if they stayed in the kitchen at all times.

Not true. I snuck up behind my wife and grabbed her tits while she was cooking. Boiling water! Surprise!

LeRoy 11-03-2011 05:34 PM

At least not during "that" time of the month :)

AaronM 11-03-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18535309)
i miss the security of having a gun in the house but i gave up my glock after my daughter was born. when she is off to college i will get another one.

So having a gun to defend yourself is OK but your daughter isn't worth the same?

Interesting.

AaronM 11-03-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18535606)
I hear you, but maybe you can get a safe with a keypad combination that only you
know and put the gun in the safe in the bed room.

Practice hitting the key code in the dark and you are set.

Then periodically search your kids room and computer for a list of numbers they
have been trying. :1orglaugh

Yeah, that safe combination needs to be 5 digits and it can't start with 0 or 1.

If you think your kid read this thread however then start it with 0 or 1.

:1orglaugh


There are also biometric solutions which do not require a combination or key and are way faster to access than either.

http://www.index-security.com/Product_N_PDFs/BioBOX.htm

http://www.index-security.com/images...-specs_pic.gif

blackmonsters 11-03-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535700)
So having a gun to defend yourself is OK but your daughter isn't worth the same?

Interesting.

Damn, you distorted the fuck out of that one.

She doesn't want to take a chance of her kid getting access to the gun.

:helpme

I think I saw your IQ on a basketball jersey.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 11-03-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535705)
There are also biometric solutions which do not require a combination or key and are way faster to access than either.

http://www.index-security.com/Product_N_PDFs/BioBOX.htm

http://www.index-security.com/images...-specs_pic.gif

Ok, I retract my IQ joke.

:thumbsup

Overscore 11-03-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18535654)
I was just going to post, I don't think I would want to be in any daily situations where I felt so unsafe I would need to carry a gun. I would change my living arrangements. Move, change job, etc.

It's not necessarily that you live somewhere that you expect to need a gun, but rather you want to have it in the off chance that you will need it. I wear a seatbelt when I drive, not because I think I'm going to smash into a tree, but it could happen. I keep a spare set of keys at home, not because I think I'm going to lose the ones I carry. I have smoke alarms, not because I expect my house to catch on fire. etc., etc. As they say, I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.

cherrylula 11-03-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overscore (Post 18535743)
It's not necessarily that you live somewhere that you expect to need a gun, but rather you want to have it in the off chance that you will need it. I wear a seatbelt when I drive, not because I think I'm going to smash into a tree, but it could happen. I keep a spare set of keys at home, not because I think I'm going to lose the ones I carry. I have smoke alarms, not because I expect my house to catch on fire. etc., etc. As they say, I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.

Well I don't think anything is wrong with females carrying guns. It's just me. I can't even find my keys in my purse within a couple seconds, let alone pull out a gun. lol. I am a small chick, I hope to never be in a situation at all where some thug is attacking me but I keep a low pro mostly in this world. I know it happens everywhere, but I don't know that carrying a gun will save me.

I'd carry a gun before I'd trust any cop though! yeah :1orglaugh

Poindexterity 11-03-2011 06:43 PM

Best world = no one has a gun.
Next best world = everyone has a gun
Third best world = all women have guns.

raymor 11-03-2011 06:55 PM

The subject line is false, a blatant lie. I don't see anywhere in the article that the sheriff suggested that ALL women get trained and licensed to carry. Under the law, many couldn't. As a CCL holder and the webmaster of a gun site, I don't think ALL people should have a gun, and the NRA agrees. In fact, whole I was running a gun related site, there was a period of time I got rid of my weapons because we had small children and one adult in home who shouldn't have access to weapons.

My posts on my board explain some of the considerations I believe should go in to decision. I suspect the sheriff would pretty much agree with the factors I suggest considering. The article most certainly does NOT say he suggested that ALL women should be armed.

To out and out LIE about what the sheriff said strongly suggests that someone doesn't have anything to support their agenda that is true. All they can do is make up blatant lies.

AaronM 11-03-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18535706)
Damn, you distorted the fuck out of that one.

She doesn't want to take a chance of her kid getting access to the gun.

:helpme

I think I saw your IQ on a basketball jersey.

:1orglaugh

I distorted nothing. There are MANY ways to make sure your child doesn't have access to your guns. I grew up in a home with several of them and never had access without adult supervision.

If she realizes that having a gun is important for her own protection then she should feel the same about having the ability to protect her family. Getting rid of a firearm out of concern for your kid getting a hold of it is a bullshit excuse and IMHO opens the family to more harm than good. :2 cents:

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535700)
So having a gun to defend yourself is OK but your daughter isn't worth the same?

Interesting.

you will see when you and that hot wifey have kids. they are into everything and nothing you say stops the curiosity. even with gun safety training accidents still happen. if i kept it in a safe as mentioned i don't think i could get it out in time (you know me, i am not the calm and collected type). i literally slept with my gun when i was in college and living alone. i had it under the pillow next to me with the safety on. i now sleep with a kubotan between my mattress and box spring and i've been trained to use it effectively.

raymor 11-03-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535700)
So having a gun to defend yourself is OK but your daughter isn't worth the same?

Interesting.


If someone takes the training and has a weapon, then decides that in their personal situation they'd rather not until a situation changes, I suspect they understand their own situation much better than you or I do. That doesn't sound like someone who is completely misinformed or uninformed making knee jerk decisions, but rather someone considering various aspects of their own situation. Certainly not everyone should be armed all the time. It's wise to consider children in the home and whether or not they tend to get into things they shouldn't, whether the adults in the home are responsible, etc. Where I live in Texas, there are plenty of young people who are more responsible with firearms than my ex-wife may have been. It's all situation dependent.

Frankly, Aaron, if you aren't in the habit of considering the totality of any situation, that's more concerning. Do you shoot a guy coming toward you with a knife? NO, you don't, until you check what's BEHIND the attacker. You better make sure nobody, such as a family member, is in the line of fire or moving toward it. That's the kind of thing that worries me when I read a gun owner dismissing the idea that it's important to consider all of the circumstances.

It might be wise for you, as a gun owner, to think about being more discerning before black and white thinking with a weapon gets you in trouble.

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535948)
If she realizes that having a gun is important for her own protection then she should feel the same about having the ability to protect her family. Getting rid of a firearm out of concern for your kid getting a hold of it is a bullshit excuse and IMHO opens the family to more harm than good. :2 cents:

Kira has actually gone shooting with her father in recent months. she has been many times though she is under age still. she says she wants a pink gun to take to college. god help the poor fool that sneaks up on my baby. she has asked why i don't have a gun here now so i do see your point as well. guess i am a little paranoid

raymor 11-03-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18536016)
Kira has actually gone shooting with her father in recent months. she has been many times though she is under age still. she says she wants a pink gun to take to college. god help the poor fool that sneaks up on my baby. she has asked why i don't have a gun here now so i do see your point as well. guess i am a little paranoid


KelTec has some nice pink CCW pistols. I really respect your decision to carefully consider your personal situation, though. You know your family, your neighborhood, your daughter, and yourself far better than Aaron or I do, so I trust you will make wise decisions for you and yours as times and situations change.

Imortyl Pussycat 11-03-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18536021)
KelTec has some nice pink CCW pistols. I really respect your decision to carefully consider your personal situation, though. You know your family, your neighborhood, your daughter, and yourself far better than Aaron or I do, so I trust you will make wise decisions for you and yours as times and situations change.

thanks for the info and the respect :) when my daughter was very young but in school there was more than one firearm accident within the community that scared me out of having a gun in the house.

AmeliaG 11-04-2011 01:20 AM

'Cause armed chicks are hot, right?

suesheboy 11-04-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18535700)
So having a gun to defend yourself is OK but your daughter isn't worth the same?

Interesting.

I noticed that too.

My bedroom furniture was custom made to hide my rifles and handguns. Asked my kids when they grew up. They swear the hunted hard and never found them. 2 secret panels in the bed platform and one in the headboard, one in a bedside table.

Imortyl Pussycat 11-04-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 18536455)

2 secret panels in the bed platform and one in the headboard, one in a bedside table.

that is awesome and something i would have done had i been clever enough to think of it

AaronM 11-04-2011 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18535309)
i miss the security of having a gun in the house but i gave up my glock...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18536007)
...i had it under the pillow next to me with the safety on...


:thumbsup

porno jew 11-04-2011 07:44 AM

lol why american's so paranoid? sleeping with a gun under their pillow or in secret compartments like a hood rat or drug dealer ....

AaronM 11-04-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18536013)
If someone takes the training and has a weapon, then decides that in their personal situation they'd rather not until a situation changes, I suspect they understand their own situation much better than you or I do. That doesn't sound like someone who is completely misinformed or uninformed making knee jerk decisions, but rather someone considering various aspects of their own situation. Certainly not everyone should be armed all the time. It's wise to consider children in the home and whether or not they tend to get into things they shouldn't, whether the adults in the home are responsible, etc. Where I live in Texas, there are plenty of young people who are more responsible with firearms than my ex-wife may have been. It's all situation dependent.

Frankly, Aaron, if you aren't in the habit of considering the totality of any situation, that's more concerning. Do you shoot a guy coming toward you with a knife? NO, you don't, until you check what's BEHIND the attacker. You better make sure nobody, such as a family member, is in the line of fire or moving toward it. That's the kind of thing that worries me when I read a gun owner dismissing the idea that it's important to consider all of the circumstances.

It might be wise for you, as a gun owner, to think about being more discerning before black and white thinking with a weapon gets you in trouble.


Thank you for educating me about guns and how I should and should not handle things. I now see the light.

Praise baby Jebus!

Vendzilla 11-04-2011 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18535309)
i miss the security of having a gun in the house but i gave up my glock after my daughter was born. when she is off to college i will get another one.

I spent time with my daughter at the range, it was a monthly thing till she went in the Navy, now she has a carry permit in Washington State.

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PR_Glen 11-04-2011 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overscore (Post 18535743)
It's not necessarily that you live somewhere that you expect to need a gun, but rather you want to have it in the off chance that you will need it. I wear a seatbelt when I drive, not because I think I'm going to smash into a tree, but it could happen. I keep a spare set of keys at home, not because I think I'm going to lose the ones I carry. I have smoke alarms, not because I expect my house to catch on fire. etc., etc. As they say, I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.

comparing gun ownership to seat belts and smoke alarms is out right fucking mad... try again...

seatbelts save lives, so do smoke alarms, the numbers are there and proven... those things do not kill people wrongfully (almost never, i'm sure there are occasional malfunctions)

guns for security is ABSOLUTELY debatable without question. In the right hands? Of course it would help, in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it? Completely reckless and dangerous.

AaronM 11-04-2011 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18536703)
In the right hands? Of course it would help, in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it? Completely reckless and dangerous.


Just like a car then... Great point. :thumbsup

oscer 11-04-2011 08:18 AM

They should at least Carry Mace with Tear Gas .. At the very least!

Quagmire 11-04-2011 08:41 AM

and once a month it should be taken away from them for several days.

CDSmith 11-04-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18536156)
'Cause armed chicks are hot, right?

Busted!!

porno jew 11-04-2011 09:17 AM

gun culture in america shows that humans can normalize any type of insanity or pathology.

Antonio 11-04-2011 09:21 AM

all men should carry hand grenades

CDSmith 11-04-2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18535293)
And that means it worthy of a thread on GFY? Wow.

My god you're right, what was I thinking?!! I've been here since day one but only now realize that threads must be "worthy" before posting. THANK YOU.

Maybe I should look up 'potter' threads to take a cue on what worthy threads look like.


Again, my deepest thanks.

czarina 11-04-2011 09:34 AM

I agree.
I used to carry a .38 when I lived in Miami, actually had to pull it out on 2 different guys, 2 different occasions.

O MARINA 11-04-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 18536761)
and once a month it should be taken away from them for several days.



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CDSmith 11-04-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18535802)
The subject line is false, a blatant lie. I don't see anywhere in the article that the sheriff suggested that ALL women get trained and licensed to carry.

To out and out LIE about what the sheriff said strongly suggests that someone doesn't have anything to support their agenda that is true. All they can do is make up blatant lies.

With all due respect you're being a nit-picking idiot. Re-read the article. It says "Women" need to get guns, "women" should walk in groups and purchase guns, etc. It doesn't say "some women", it simply says women. That says to me that it's probably a safe inference he means all women should carry.

But relax your bad self, I actually support the notion that women be allowed to do something proactive to afford themselves some measure of protection. Anyone paying even remote attention to the news for any length of time knows there are a lot of abusers, molesters, and would-be rapists out there, many of them getting away with that and a lot more. I'd actually like nothing better than to hear about a few of them getting their nuts blown off by their target victim packing heat.

... as long as there are training and gun safety requirements and mandatory courses in place. I'm certainly not advocating that just anyone should be able to walk in off the street and buy a gun and be allowed to carry. That would be stupid. My apologies if my evil thread title gave off that impression.

ottopottomouse 11-04-2011 10:15 AM

Love to see them actually find it amongst all the mountain of crap that is inside the average handbag.

Poindexterity 11-04-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18536848)
gun culture in america shows that humans can normalize any type of insanity or pathology.

humans have been doing that since before recorded history, dude.
Most social animals too.


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