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Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 08:25 AM

Mexico City mayor calls drug policy 'schizophrenic'
 
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/worl...-drug-war.html

"If the United States is legalizing marijuana and we're over here killing ourselves on the street over marijuana, that does not make sense," Ebrard said Tuesday, referring to U.S. states, such as California, that have sought to decriminalize the sale and use of cannabis.

I love california, need to find a spot of land to buy.

candyflip 11-10-2011 08:40 AM

Mexican cartels aren't killing people over marijuana. Surely he's got to know that, right?

Coup 11-10-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18549940)
Mexican cartels aren't killing people over marijuana. Surely he's got to know that, right?

Yeah they are. They don't deal in just cocaine. Or Just meth. They kill over control and security of the drug trade. That includes marijuana.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 09:00 AM

mexican brick weed aint worth even bringing over. No one in california smokes reggie

Coup 11-10-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18549985)
mexican brick weed aint worth even bringing over. No one in california smokes reggie

Someone's buying Mexican marijuana. and has been since... like.. forever.

escorpio 11-10-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18549985)
mexican brick weed aint worth even bringing over. No one in california smokes reggie

Mex weed varies greatly in quality. I have seen shit so bad that it should be tossed in a compost pile and shit so good it was sold as "B.C. Bud."

escorpio 11-10-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18549990)
Someone's buying Mexican marijuana. and has been since... like.. forever.

A great deal of it goes to cities in the midwest and east and is sold in low income urban areas.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18550060)
Mex weed varies greatly in quality. I have seen shit so bad that it should be tossed in a compost pile and shit so good it was sold as "B.C. Bud."

headache weed, is all it is.

its because its got males mixed in and its trash. No real stoners smoke reggie from mexico. Ive never seen anything good from across border... why bother when we got the best purp money can buy MADE IN THE USA? hahah

escorpio 11-10-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550086)
headache weed, is all it is.

its because its got males mixed in and its trash. No real stoners smoke reggie from mexico. Ive never seen anything good from across border... why bother when we got the best purp money can buy MADE IN THE USA? hahah

Like I said, some is trash, some isn't. High quality indoor marijuana is being produced in Mexico and smuggled into the U.S. You think they don't have electricity and halide lights there?

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18550111)
Like I said, some is trash, some isn't. High quality indoor marijuana is being produced in Mexico and smuggled into the U.S. You think they don't have electricity and halide lights there?

i undrstand and can imagine, drug dealers sell anything they can LOL

got friends and family in humboldt california, once you have the good stuff, youll never smoke mexican weed again!

LOL

escorpio 11-10-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550124)
i undrstand and can imagine, drug dealers sell anything they can LOL

got friends and family in humboldt california, once you have the good stuff, youll never smoke mexican weed again!

LOL

There are people that are smoking Mexican weed that don't know it was produced in Mexico. Trust me. My credentials go beyond "friends and family in Humboldt."

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:00 AM

not comparing credentials and would never speak on depths on public forum. my close friend just got out 5 years fed time for growing, i know no one or nothing.

candyflip 11-10-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18549978)
Yeah they are. They don't deal in just cocaine. Or Just meth. They kill over control and security of the drug trade. That includes marijuana.

Of course it's part of the equation, but a very small part. Definitely not the drug to blame for the mess down there.

JFK 11-10-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550124)
i undrstand and can imagine, drug dealers sell anything they can LOL

got friends and family in humboldt california, once you have the good stuff, youll never smoke mexican weed again!

LOL

Not everyone has access to the 'good' stuff, to some people mexican is as good as it gets. I remember years ago smoking what was called 'Acapulco Gold':stoned

blackmonsters 11-10-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18549985)
mexican brick weed aint worth even bringing over. No one in california smokes reggie

Bullshit!

In many places in America the only weed people will ever get is Mexican.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18550172)
Not everyone has access to the 'good' stuff, to some people mexican is as good as it gets. I remember years ago smoking what was called 'Acapulco Gold':stoned

but here is where we get into strains. It doesnt matter WHERE something is grown, its how its grown.

True Acapulco Gold is a potent strain, if grown correctly, it could be growin in a igloo in Alaska.

In fact, ive had family visit Alaska and they have very very good herb LOL

But really, I referred BRICK weed specifically. I know good pot is grown everywhere, its a plant. I was talking specifically about good old brown dark dirt weed from mexico.

its all about genes.

Coup 11-10-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18550162)
Of course it's part of the equation, but a very small part. Definitely not the drug to blame for the mess down there.

People are killing each other over marijuana here too. Guy I used to buy from a couple of years ago got shot and killed when three meth/coke heads robbed him for his stash.


To say no one is killing anyone for weed is just nonsense.

Also, Marijuana is huge business for the cartels. Small part my dick.

escorpio 11-10-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550153)
not comparing credentials and would never speak on depths on public forum. my close friend just got out 5 years fed time for growing, i know no one or nothing.

I understand. Just pointing out that not all Mexican is thet same. Far from it. Mexico is just a place. The same shit that is grown in a Seattle basement can be grown in a Mexican warehouse, it's just that no one at an L.A. dispensary is going put a "Hecho en Mexico" sticker on their $20 a gram shit. They likely don't even know it themselves.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18550177)
Bullshit!

In many places in America the only weed people will ever get is Mexican.

no one denied that. Crap weed is sold to urban areas, and theres a reason here in the south that particular weed has a racist adjective attached to its name. We all know what we mean when we say "urban."

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18550184)
I understand. Just pointing out that not all Mexican is thet same. Far from it. Mexico is just a place. The same shit that is grown in a Seattle basement can be grown in a Mexican warehouse, it's just that no one at an L.A. dispensary is going put a "Hecho en Mexico" sticker on their $20 a gram shit. They likely don't even know it themselves.

I understand. Prolly due to price wars, American growers are paying top dollar for fertilizers and electricity.

I dont know anyone in mexico but im sure they can grow pot LOL I wasnt talking about DRO as I mentioned, I was referencing good old dirt weed. Not hydro.

and i know a few people in and around the dispensary biz and from what I hear they need good pot no matter where it come from because its selling so fast they need more LOL

escorpio 11-10-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550179)
In fact, ive had family visit Alaska and they have very very good herb LOL

The Alaskan strain Matanuska Thunderfuck AKA Matanuska Tundra is one of my all time favorites.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550183)
People are killing each other over marijuana here too. Guy I used to buy from a couple of years ago got shot and killed when three meth/coke heads robbed him for his stash.

they probably wanted his money more than weed :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18550203)
The Alaskan strain Matanuska Thunderfuck AKA Matanuska Tundra is one of my all time favorites.

thunderfuck is the exact one my uncle talked about to me after his time living there.

my uncle (rest in peace he dead now) was a smuggler. his stories blew my mind as a kid, and the cars he drove made it all factual.

Coup 11-10-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550205)
they probably wanted his money more than weed :2 cents:

He had far more weed than cash on hand. They knew that going in. They were never going to find much cash at all. they knew this and did it anyway.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550215)
He had far more weed than cash on hand. They knew that going in.

how much im curious?

Coup 11-10-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550219)
how much im curious?

I couldn't tell you for sure but it was around a pound.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550228)
I couldn't tell you for sure but it was around a pound i'm sure.

thats it? geez, either way I doubt they shot him so they could SMOKE the pot, they resold it which in the end translates to them wanting more meth not pot.

Ive known quite a few speed addicts, and they often do not like pot or any despressants since they crave the speed. Much different highs especially to true addicts.

escorpio 11-10-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550211)
thunderfuck is the exact one my uncle talked about to me after his time living there.

my uncle (rest in peace he dead now) was a smuggler. his stories blew my mind as a kid, and the cars he drove made it all factual.

Everyone I have ever smoked Matanuska with said it was the strongest pot they have ever smoked. And I'm from Seattle so these people are used to top quality herb.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18550236)
Everyone I have ever smoked Matanuska with said it was the strongest pot they have ever smoked. And I'm from Seattle so these people are used to top quality herb.

thats usually what everyone says when Id smoke em out LOL

I had a friend from Australia come over who regularly visits Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam, he said the shit i had was better or as good as anything he smoked in Amsterdam

buahahaha MADE IN AMERICA BABY

Coup 11-10-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550235)
thats it? geez, either way I doubt they shot him so they could SMOKE the pot, they resold it which in the end translates to them wanting more meth not pot.

Ive known quite a few speed addicts, and they often do not like pot or any despressants since they crave the speed. Much different highs especially to true addicts.

They killed him for his weed. I'm sure they intended to trade some or all of it off but still doesn't change the fact that his life was taken because of marijuana.


People die because of the marijuana trade. That's an undeniable fact.

But, don't get me wrong here. I'm for legalization just as much as the next guy, mainly in the hopes it puts these types out of business. But still, facts are facts.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550265)


People die because of the marijuana trade. That's an undeniable fact.

gotcha, I just look past the drug and realize its not for marijuana, its for money. Meth heads dont want pot, they want meth, but I understand your point and feelings considering it was your friend.

Ive lost friends to bullets and drugs, its sad part of this world.

baddog 11-10-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550086)
Ive never seen anything good from across border...

I will attribute that to your age. There was lots of great Mexican {along with the dirt} back in the day prior to the Emerald Triangle.

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18550172)
Not everyone has access to the 'good' stuff, to some people mexican is as good as it gets. I remember years ago smoking what was called 'Acapulco Gold':stoned

A fine example. An maybe not as potent, but definitely tasty (and lots more potent that the $10/oz dirt weed) was Oaxacan, known for their spears.

baddog 11-10-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550244)
thats usually what everyone says when Id smoke em out LOL

I had a friend from Australia come over who regularly visits Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam, he said the shit i had was better or as good as anything he smoked in Amsterdam

buahahaha MADE IN AMERICA BABY

I have never talked to a coffee shop owner/employee that did not acknowledge CA had better quality. They may have better hash though.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18550345)
I will attribute that to your age. There was lots of great Mexican {along with the dirt} back in the day prior to the Emerald Triangle.

yes, I didnt even really smoke pot until I moved to caifornia LOL

had tried it, but never liked the crappy weed, so when I moved there and had some Bubblegum or blonde hash for first time I was like oh shit im staying here, and I stayed for over a decade LOL

_Richard_ 11-10-2011 11:04 AM

didn't the federal government shut down dispensaries in California?

_Richard_ 11-10-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550244)
thats usually what everyone says when Id smoke em out LOL

I had a friend from Australia come over who regularly visits Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam, he said the shit i had was better or as good as anything he smoked in Amsterdam

buahahaha MADE IN AMERICA BABY

think amsterdam has the 'hydroponics' thing going on

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18550377)
didn't the federal government shut down dispensaries in California?

thats what the news says, but have they closed them down?

My guess is the ones doing anything shady will get culled and those operating properly will continue unscathed.

Have tons of family and friends there and they dont seem concerned

baddog 11-10-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550394)
thats what the news says, but have they closed them down?

I read about some in the OC that got shut down, but they were idiots and deserved it if the back story was only 30% true. I personally know of none that are closed or showing signs of closing.

candyflip 11-10-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550183)
People are killing each other over marijuana here too. Guy I used to buy from a couple of years ago got shot and killed when three meth/coke heads robbed him for his stash.


To say no one is killing anyone for weed is just nonsense.

Also, Marijuana is huge business for the cartels. Small part my dick.

I never said that no one was getting killed over marijuana. Please don't put words into my mouth.

I simply said that the Mayor singled it out in his statement. In the scheme of things, weed IS a small portion. That portion is definitely huge business, but it is still a small part of the whole pie.

Fletch XXX 11-10-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18550408)
I read about some in the OC that got shut down, but they were idiots and deserved it if the back story was only 30% true. I personally know of none that are closed or showing signs of closing.

right, ive read up on some of the people behind some of the dispensaries and its like Armenien gangsters and shit LOL

sure they will and hopefully do get shut down, and let the non criminals get back to helping those in need with medicinal grade marijuana.

I miss that place so much, its like it became a part of me, and as much a home as nola is when Im away from it.

porno jew 11-10-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18550183)
People are killing each other over marijuana here too. Guy I used to buy from a couple of years ago got shot and killed when three meth/coke heads robbed him for his stash.


To say no one is killing anyone for weed is just nonsense.

Also, Marijuana is huge business for the cartels. Small part my dick.

yes anyone who is growing plants and dealing green is a target.

have had friends home invaded for their plants. others jacked, robbed ... saying there is no violent crime tied to weed is just stupid.

porno jew 11-10-2011 11:25 AM

anyone actually read before posting? of course not it's gfy.

they want to legalize in mexico to stop the weed-trade-based violence there.

pornguy 11-10-2011 11:37 AM

Now if that aint the pot calling the Kettle Black.

These ass hats in mexico just De criminalized possession of marijuana at X amount.. not sure of the weight.

_Richard_ 11-10-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18550430)
right, ive read up on some of the people behind some of the dispensaries and its like Armenien gangsters and shit LOL

sure they will and hopefully do get shut down, and let the non criminals get back to helping those in need with medicinal grade marijuana.

I miss that place so much, its like it became a part of me, and as much a home as nola is when Im away from it.

lends credit to the idea that legalizing would shut down a lot of criminal activity

Coup 11-10-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18550413)
I never said that no one was getting killed over marijuana. Please don't put words into my mouth.

No but you very well did say:
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Mexican cartels aren't killing people over marijuana.
Which is completely false.

$5 submissions 11-10-2011 02:28 PM

It's a failure... Time to let go

However, politicians probably think the drug laws are job saving acts


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