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porno jew 11-11-2011 02:15 PM

'Making money off your mistakes:' Meet the creator of 'stalker porn'
 
A problematic website called IsAnyoneUp.com is taking amateur pornography to the next level.

The site encourages visitors to submit nude photos of their exes, hookups, friends or anyone else who's ever 'sexted' them, and then cross references the racy photos with screen grabs of the unconsenting subjects' actual Facebook, Twitter or Tumblr accounts - whatever's floating out there.

Mr. Moore, a 25-year-old former hair stylist from San Francisco, claims his site now enjoys 30 million page views a month. He's gotten death threats and been stabbed by a San Francisco woman aggrieved by the sight of her sext and social media info sitting side by side on the Web. (Mr. Moore now no longer posts locals.)

Still, no one's managed to sue him. As long as the subjects are over 18, IsAnyoneUp is in the clear: The Communications Decency Act of 1996 protects website owners from legal liability around material their users post.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...ontent=2233399

alias 11-11-2011 02:17 PM

Cool idea.

epitome 11-11-2011 02:18 PM

That's what I don't understand.

He wont remove content if he gets a DMCA. How is that? Especially if it is self-shot, which means the subject is also the owner of the content.

alias 11-11-2011 02:22 PM

http://cache.isanyoneup.com/wp-conte...1/11/adny3.jpg

halfpint 11-11-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18553662)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

anexsia 11-11-2011 02:25 PM

Some of the girls on there are VERY hot!

halfpint 11-11-2011 02:30 PM

39,365 people like Is Anyone up!? on Facebook

scuba steve 11-11-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18553667)
Some of the girls on there are VERY hot!

read the comments too, some good vulgar slutty stuff :thumbsup

halfpint 11-11-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18553662)

http://cache.isanyoneup.com/wp-conte...1/11/adny5.gif


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lmao :1orglaugh

alias 11-11-2011 02:41 PM

Sporting wood.

gleem 11-11-2011 03:02 PM

That's bullshit, if you actively approve or decline posts that is no longer exempt from 2257 laws and you don't qualify for not being legally responsible.
Quote:

I am just too sick to update right now but if you submit by friday at 12:00pm pacific time
Looks to me like he's approving/denying post and then even adding gifs to them making him the editor... I was told by attorneys that's gonna get you thrown under the 2257 bus.


Side note, guess all the other illegal GF sites have been getting some nice unverified age wise content to use on tours promo materials, FHGs and members areas... now you know..

porno jew 11-11-2011 03:06 PM

http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/the-ma...your-nude-pics

Moore has cleared up to $13,000 a month from the site, but that amount fluctuates and nearly all of it is put back into the site. The server bill alone is $8,000 a month.

:1orglaugh yeah right.

halfpint 11-11-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18553744)
That's bullshit, if you actively approve or decline posts that is no longer exempt from 2257 laws and you don't qualify for not being legally responsible.


Looks to me like he's approving/denying post and then even adding gifs to them making him the editor... I was told by attorneys that's gonna get you thrown under the 2257 bus.


Side note, guess all the other illegal GF sites have been getting some nice unverified age wise content to use on tours promo materials, FHGs and members areas... now you know..

He is hosting in France not the USA

NaughtyVisions 11-11-2011 03:15 PM

I've been following Hunter/IAU's twitter for awhile. I'm addicted to that site. lol

helterskelter808 11-11-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18553754)
He is hosting in France not the USA

Which would mean the CDA doesn't 'protect' jack shit.

gleem 11-11-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18553754)
He is hosting in France not the USA

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18553761)
Which would mean the CDA doesn't 'protect' jack shit.

Bullshit he clearly lives and operates out of the USA, so it doesn't matter.

Jayvis 11-11-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18553747)
http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/the-ma...your-nude-pics

Moore has cleared up to $13,000 a month from the site, but that amount fluctuates and nearly all of it is put back into the site. The server bill alone is $8,000 a month.

:1orglaugh yeah right.



He's posted screenshots of his hosting bills before. He's not making that part up, probably getting ripped off but yeah.
Here ya go, found it: http://isanyoneup.com/2011/09/07/sav...o-collections/

halfpint 11-11-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18553761)
Which would mean the CDA doesn't 'protect' jack shit.

Nope I think it comes under the Data Protection act in Europe, not sure though

helterskelter808 11-11-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18553771)
Bullshit he clearly lives and operates out of the USA, so it doesn't matter.

What makes you think US laws apply in France then?

stocktrader23 11-11-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18553744)
That's bullshit, if you actively approve or decline posts that is no longer exempt from 2257 laws and you don't qualify for not being legally responsible.


Looks to me like he's approving/denying post and then even adding gifs to them making him the editor... I was told by attorneys that's gonna get you thrown under the 2257 bus.


Side note, guess all the other illegal GF sites have been getting some nice unverified age wise content to use on tours promo materials, FHGs and members areas... now you know..

I'm not 100% sure about this. You are allowed to moderate some aspects of your website, even if it's user submitted. It's the same reason YouTube isn't liable for the content there even though they will remove it if they don't like it. Service provider status is a bit different in the fact that you can't actively moderate things but that has nothing to do with 2257.

Edit: Unless I'm missing something he just keeps a blog updated. Seems he'd be liable but wtf do I know.

epitome 11-11-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 18553772)
He's posted screenshots of his hosting bills before. He's not making that part up, probably getting ripped off but yeah.
Here ya go, found it: http://isanyoneup.com/2011/09/07/sav...o-collections/

I like the one comment somebody left: switch to tumblr and it'd be free.

alias 11-11-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis (Post 18553772)
He's posted screenshots of his hosting bills before. He's not making that part up, probably getting ripped off but yeah.
Here ya go, found it: http://isanyoneup.com/2011/09/07/sav...o-collections/

Fucking Amazon for the win, CDN 4L.

you-big-dummy 11-11-2011 05:35 PM

Yeah something aint right here.

D Ghost 11-11-2011 05:36 PM

Thats my friend's site.

D Ghost 11-11-2011 05:39 PM

Contact me if you want an ad on isanyoneup...

Ayla_SquareTurtle 11-11-2011 06:59 PM

Sounds like the next person who stabs him needs better aim. :2 cents:

Sharky 11-11-2011 07:05 PM

lol, man, How have I never heard of that before!

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18553805)
What makes you think US laws apply in France then?

You are not understanding. He is serving content to Americans. If he does not want to comply with 2257, he needs to block American surfers from accessing his website. This applies to ALL countries and their laws, but most will not come after you. The United States think they are the internet police, they will make you pay if you do not comply with their laws ( If you are big enough ).

Here is an example. Let's pretend cocaine is 100% legal in France, you are American, but your corporation and shops are setup in France. In the United States cocaine is very illegal. Do you think you would be legally liable if you opened a shop and started allowing Americans to purchase your Cocaine in the United States? Of course you would be liable.

Cocaine is illegal in America, so you would not sell it to them.

Here is a second example. Let's pretend these girl's having their pics stolen are not people, but big businesses. Let's say you are stealing photos from the new york times and distributing them for free on your website that is much bigger than the new york times. You think you would be legally liable? If you did not remove the content, you would be fucked in court and owe more money than you can afford.

It's all fine and great stealing content, until you steal from the wrong girl who's father has millions in the bank waiting to sue the fuck out of you

These threads are funny.

My Source: Paying over $50,000 to lawyers for internet law.

Barry-xlovecam 11-11-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18553744)
[T]hat's bullshit, if you actively approve or decline posts that is no longer exempt from 2257 laws and you don't qualify for not being legally responsible ...

The domain ownership is French -- US Law has no jurisdiction in France

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18554245)
The domain ownership is French -- US Law has no jurisdiction in France

Where is the owner from?
Where is the website operated from?
Where is the victim from?
Where are the servers hosted?
Have you heard of the Hague convention?
Does the owner operate other websites based in the United States?
Does the owner own/operate a company in the United States?
Does the owner have regular business activity within the United States? ( Selling ads )
Does the owner own real estate in the United States?

You really think a judge is that fucking stupid to base their jurisdiction decision off what registrar they used or what they put in for owner info?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 11-11-2011 07:41 PM

lol, in rem -- look it up ...

If they are French Nationals => dead end

** and it gets worse -- 18 USC §2257 is illegal under the EU Data Protection Directive Unless, someone gives specific consent to the disclosure of their personal information to a party not to that disclosure -- it would be an illegal act.

Jakez 11-11-2011 07:47 PM

Wow, I get a lot of this content and I remove a lot of facebook URL's and girls full names.. this is fucked up lol.

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18554265)
lol, in rem -- look it up ...

If they are French Nationals => dead end

** and it gets worse -- 18 USC §2257 is illegal under the EU Data Protection Directive Unless, someone gives specific consent to the disclosure of their personal information to a party not to that disclosure -- it would be an illegal act.


Are you done editing your post? It's been 3-4 times now.

In rem does not apply here, the "victims" would not have owned property previously here. This would be In personam.

It does not matter what France or Euro laws are with 2257, and you are only using 2257 as an example. He would be sued in a civil suit on many charges such as distributing the likeness of the victims without permission, negligence, emotional distress, and on and on.

You may think US law has no jurisdiction over France, but you are incorrect. That may apply to extradition. Even if you live in France, the United States Judge can rule that the case jurisdiction would be the state of the victim. A default judgement would be awarded if ignored by the French owner and a judge in France would have no reason to block it if it complies with French law. The 2257 part of the claim may not stick, but the rest would.

It is funny how many of you worry about 2257, complying should be on your to do list, but that is the least of your worries if you get sued.

Barry-xlovecam 11-11-2011 08:18 PM

OK :P You wasted $50K

Lucy - CSC 11-11-2011 08:29 PM

I bet alot of dating sites are getting some fresh profiles from that content.

AllAboutCams 11-11-2011 08:44 PM

looks good and know bookmarked

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18554309)
OK :P You wasted $50K

No I did not.
You are wrong.

How about we just wait for a real life example then.

helterskelter808 11-11-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18554233)
You are not understanding.

Actually I understand just fine, unlike you apparently. Nowhere did I mention 2257. So fuck only knows why you started droning about it. Someone said he is hosted in France not the USA. I said then CDA 'protection' means jack shit. Which is a fact: the CDA means jack shit in France. Dribbling about cocaine, and fuck knows what other inane shit I didn't even bother reading, won't change that fact.

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18554362)
Actually I understand just fine, unlike you apparently. Nowhere did I mention 2257. So fuck only knows why you started droning about it. Someone said he is hosted in France not the USA. I said then CDA 'protection' means jack shit. Which is a fact: the CDA means jack shit in France. Dribbling about cocaine, and fuck knows what other inane shit I didn't even bother reading, won't change that fact.

You can spat off the big bad "F" word as much as you want big guy, you still don't understand that it does not fucking matter where his server is. You retards are so one dimensional and I will be laughing my dick off when you get fucked by these courts who you think will protect you when these victims have a realistic and valid claim against you. I am done here, my ass is safe and I don't give a flying cunt about any of you, good luck and choose your side wisely. Idiots.

helterskelter808 11-11-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18554387)
You can spat off the big bad "F" word as much as you want big guy, you still don't understand that it does not fucking matter where his server is.

And you can babble all you like without backing any of your clueless shit up, but who do you think you're convincing? Yourself? Back that statement up with some evidence. Show me a single case where the CDA has been applied to a server in France.

Edit: Nevermind. Just read the rest of your post and saw your angry, sweary flounce. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18554391)
And you can babble all you like without backing any of your clueless shit up, but who do you think you're convincing? Yourself? Back that statement up with some evidence. Show me a single case where the CDA has been applied to a server in France.

Edit: Nevermind. Just read the rest of your post and saw your angry, sweary flounce. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I don't give a fuck about CDA. My response never had anything to do with your CDA BS. I replied to your post "What makes you think US laws apply in France then?". Hence my remark about you dip shits being one dimensional.

On the flip side, show me an example of where a judge denied the CDA. Has this ever been brought up in a French court? Honestly, I have no idea. My argument was regarding to applying certain US laws or judgements against a France citizen. Actually, not even that, the original thought was that the owner is American but hosts his site in France. There is no protection AT ALL for him. U.S. law can and would be applied against him in the US., France would have no jurisdiction or value in the case at all.

Since you have challenged me on actual facts and evidence, please feel free to stop being a hypocritical asshole anytime now.

NaughtyVisions 11-11-2011 10:16 PM

You know what's funny? You guys are having this big argument, and Hunter Moore doesn't give a shit about any of it. :2 cents:

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 18554439)
You know what's funny? You guys are having this big argument, and Hunter Moore doesn't give a shit about any of it. :2 cents:


Either do I anymore. I will gladly state right now that helterskelter808 is 100% correct and I retract everything I said, because it's my daughter's 2nd birthday tomorrow, its late right now here, and I need to go to bed because I don't give a fuck about this thread. lol

It's been fun while I sip some beer. Later.

JohnRingo 11-11-2011 10:26 PM

for those of you who think that the US can't do whatever the fuck they want even if you or your site are out of the country

http://www.trending-news.org/wp-cont...0x220poker.jpg

helterskelter808 11-11-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18554423)
I don't give a fuck about CDA. My response never had anything to do with your CDA BS. I replied to your post "What makes you think US laws apply in France then?".

Okay, give me one example of any US law being applied to a web server located in France. Any at all. That should keep you occupied on Google for a while.

Quote:

On the flip side, show me an example of where a judge denied the CDA. Has this ever been brought up in a French court? Honestly, I have no idea.
Finally you got something right: you have no fucking idea whatsoever.

Why would an American law be brought up in a French court you unbelievably dumb shit?

DWB 11-11-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18554233)
You are not understanding. He is serving content to Americans. If he does not want to comply with 2257, he needs to block American surfers from accessing his website. This applies to ALL countries and their laws, but most will not come after you. The United States think they are the internet police, they will make you pay if you do not comply with their laws ( If you are big enough ).

Here is an example. Let's pretend cocaine is 100% legal in France, you are American, but your corporation and shops are setup in France. In the United States cocaine is very illegal. Do you think you would be legally liable if you opened a shop and started allowing Americans to purchase your Cocaine in the United States? Of course you would be liable.

Cocaine is illegal in America, so you would not sell it to them.

Here is a second example. Let's pretend these girl's having their pics stolen are not people, but big businesses. Let's say you are stealing photos from the new york times and distributing them for free on your website that is much bigger than the new york times. You think you would be legally liable? If you did not remove the content, you would be fucked in court and owe more money than you can afford.

It's all fine and great stealing content, until you steal from the wrong girl who's father has millions in the bank waiting to sue the fuck out of you

These threads are funny.

My Source: Paying over $50,000 to lawyers for internet law.

All of that depends on a big fat IF anything ever comes of it. Unless someone tries to make real problems for the guy and has the loot to do so, nothing will happen. But you are right, all it takes is one person. That said, all it always takes is one person and that hasn't stopped anyone yet.

Regardless of what the law is or is not, I'll bet he gets away with it. Most people do. That's why they do it, odds are in their favor.

DWB 11-11-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRingo (Post 18554458)
for those of you who think that the US can't do whatever the fuck they want even if you or your site are out of the country

http://www.trending-news.org/wp-cont...0x220poker.jpg

Because at the end of the day, and for a limited time only, the USA owns the internet and most of the world.

However, they are usually more interested into seizing sites selling Gucci knock-offs than they are submitted porn sites where idiots foolishly take nudes of themselves and it somehow ends up online.

Zoxxa 11-11-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18554460)
Okay, give me one example of any US law being applied to a web server located in France. Any at all. That should keep you occupied on Google for a while.



Finally you got something right: you have no fucking idea whatsoever.

Why would an American law be brought up in a French court you unbelievably dumb shit?




You are losing. Each post of yours contains less context than the next.

My posts were words of warning and advice out of experience. It does not matter to me one way or the other if ANYONE believes what I have to say. You are basing your complete theory and "facts" off situations that have not yet been brought up in France. You are so ignorant to the laws and how they work internationally, that you actually believe France has some type of special scumbag protecting laws that would not be upheld if they were reasonable from a US court. You are a moron, and your only skill as a human being displayed today is that you are amazing at wasting people's time and trying to get others to prove your unproven facts for you.

It's been fun.
Good night.

Frosty 11-11-2011 10:43 PM

The only bad thing about the site is that they provide all info about the person, which pretty much sucks, as having naked pictures of yourself on the Internet is taboo for most (default) people. Especially older people, who might use the Internet just to "Google out" their daughter/son, and find Isanyoneup results.. It would be cool, if those same people knew their pictures would be published there, with their personal info as well. But doing it like this, is just lame...

DVTimes 11-11-2011 10:55 PM

the site looks fake

i bet he has shot or bought the pics.


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