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Lucy - CSC 11-23-2011 11:54 AM

Glad To Be Liberated
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15854418

I bet the Egyptians are so glad they liberated themselves and appointed a gentle kind leader.


Kind of seems as though these arab uprising are not really all they seem to be.

crockett 11-23-2011 12:16 PM

The problem with over throwing govts is there will always be a power vacuum once the former govt is removed. Whom ever is the most organized the fastest will be the one whom takes control and most often it will be just one dictator taking over from another.

With the middle east it's even more risky as the extreme groups often have the most organization because they have long been working in the back ground trying to get their selves in power.

Dcat 11-23-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18581551)
The problem with over throwing govts is there will always be a power vacuum once the former govt is removed. Whom ever is the most organized the fastest will be the one whom takes control and most often it will be just one dictator taking over from another.

With the middle east it's even more risky as the extreme groups often have the most organization because they have long been working in the back ground trying to get their selves in power.

The CIA doesn't overthrow a previously installed dictator unless they have another one ready to go.

Egypt was planned that way (to be ruled over by an authoritarian military government subservient to Washington), it's just now the people have fully awoken to what has happened, and they are not having it. :2 cents:

Lucy - CSC 11-23-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18581707)
The CIA doesn't overthrow a previously installed dictator unless they have another one ready to go.

Egypt was planned that way (to be ruled over by an authoritarian military government subservient to Washington), it's just now the people have fully awoken to what has happened, and they are not having it. :2 cents:

I wonder if the west will be supportive to the second wave of arab uprisings?

directfiesta 11-23-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC (Post 18582223)
I wonder if the west will be supportive to the second wave of arab uprisings?

Maybe they will impose a ' Nato No-Fly zone ' .... :1orglaugh

crockett 11-23-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18581707)
The CIA doesn't overthrow a previously installed dictator unless they have another one ready to go.

Egypt was planned that way (to be ruled over by an authoritarian military government subservient to Washington), it's just now the people have fully awoken to what has happened, and they are not having it. :2 cents:

You do understand the reason the current uprisings took place was because of wiki leaks don't you? If you want to blame someone, blame them because it was the good old freedom of information that allowed the people of these countries to see how corrupt their govts were.

The US certainly had no reason to cause an uprising with-in Egypt to change leadership. Their govt was already in our pocket so to speak and we had lots of arms sales deals with Egypt.

You don't fuck that up just to change dictators, when you already have a stable country and a solid customer. Once things went down there the US had no option but to side with the uprising, because it's obvious they were gonna overthrow the govt by that time and business is business so they wanted to keep the arms sales.


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