More lies on the porn industry.
 

When kids can watch violent films and play violent games it's porn that gets the blame for violence against women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...ther_multiline

Sadly the comments are closed, probably too many supporters of this crack pot throry and too many people pointing out the truth.

Yep.... porn, booze, drugs, commercials, video games, rap videos, teachers....

anyone and everyone else its to blame but the parents.

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Of course, blame porn for this failure we call society. Always been like that.

Wonder what show she went to, hope she snagged one of our freebees!!

Old article though -> The Guardian, Friday 2 July 2010

I sent her my thoughts on her article.

http://gaildines.com/contact/

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Yes a boys relationship with his Mother has more effect on the boys attitude towards women than porn ever will. So should we ban Mothers?

As Roald says, they demand it before they come to us. And there lies the problem.

Video games don't cause violence against women either, Paul.

Anything that is overused is bad. Having a few drink while out with your friends every now and then is a good thing. Sitting at home every night drinking until you pass out is not. Smoking a joint every now and then is no big deal. Getting baked every day to the point where all you do is lay around all day and watch Spongebob while eating Twinkies is not.

Checking out porn from time to time is no big deal. Watching it for hours every day can desensitize you to it and cause some people problems.

One thing she does get correct is that porn is getting more and more violent. While there has always been the existence of Bondage type material, the more mainstream stuff gets crazier and crazier. It used to be enough that we saw a woman give head or get fucked. Now she has to get throat fucked until her eyes are watering and she is puking on the cock or she is getting fucked in all her holes at the same time by four different dudes. It seems like the boundaries keep getting pushed and the industry is full of copycats so once someone does it and has success everyone else follows their lead and many of those followers try to take it to the next level.

watching your porn makes me want to beat someone.

Agreed. Is that a reflection on society or the porn industry?

People with a non violent will not create it or buy it. So do we respond or create to the trend, as she wants to imply?

Are people going to the limits to pick up the scraps, because mainstream is out of bounds for them?

Does Paul Little love what he's doing and came to porn with his attitude towards women already firmly in place. Do people who like what he creates cultivated into this theme by him or before they get to him?

There are no simple answers.

I think we both create to our customers desires and we create in an effort to shock them and draw their interest.

Obviously, if there was nobody out there who liked the stuff, it wouldn't get made. So in some cases it is simply we the supplier making what our customers want. But I think a lot of time our customers don't really know what they want so we push the boundaries, they see it and are shocked by it and they like it because it is new, different and extreme.

You can say the same for video games. I remembers when the game Mortal Kombat came out and it stirred controversy because of the violence in it. When you look at that game now it is cartoony and not that intense. However, games these days are not only getting more and more violent, but they are getting more and more realistic. So you can say the same for the gaming industry as you can us. If there was no market for this stuff, nobody would make it.

All of this said, it doesn't mean that these things cause violence towards women. In the US we love porn and video games but the amount of violence towards women is nothing like it is in other countries. A woman born in South Africa is more likely to be raped than to learn to read. You always hear about women in the middle east getting raped then getting beaten and thrown in jail for it. There is a case right now in Saudi Arabia where a 19 year old girl got raped. She was then convicted of the crime of being in public alone and having sex out of wedlock so they threw her in jail for 12 months. She got pregnant from the rape and now she is told the only way she can reduce her sentence is to agree to marry the father of the child - her rapist.

These are places where porn is banned or much harder to find. These are also places that have limited access to TV, music and video games so clearly it isn't those things that are causing the violence towards women.

A person might even argue that many men are just hyper-aggressive and mean by nature and they are predisposed to be violent towards women. Having porn, video games and home deliver pizza gives them something else to focus that attention on and a way for them to blow off their steam and rid themselves of that aggression instead of otherwise focusing it on someone else.

I'm sure some people "get desensitized" and crave harder and harder stuff but I don't think that is what's going on. Extreme porn is wanted by a certain subset of society but I think their numbers are actually smaller than the industry gives them credit for. What I would say happened is someone put up an extreme site and it sold well *because it's harder to find. There are unlimited pics and vids of vanilla porn out there. The reason there are so many is because this is a copycat industry that lost the will or ability to innovate years ago. All these lazy companies see is throatfuckers.com getting good sales so they reproduce it, have some success and get copied themselves. There is still way more 'normal' porn around than extreme stuff and I bet if you compared the actual numbers of people signing up for it the extreme stuff would barely be a blip on the radar.

Then you have the fact that many people have fantasies of crazy ass shit but never want to do it in real life. A huge % of women have rape fantasies and many watch extreme porn themselves even though they'd never do what is on the screen. Blaming porn for violence is retarded, much like blaming Spongebob for making kids try to breathe underwater.

There is no question that regular vanilla porn vastly outnumbers the other stuff and I agree that those who are into the really hardcore crazy stuff are a much smaller number. It just seems that as this industry "innovates" it no longer comes up with better technology or better ways to deliver a product to the customer instead all the new innovations are in the realm of what is in the content itself. One guy does an anal site then the next guy does a double anal site then the next guy does a gaping site then the next guy does a gaping site where they pour milk into her ass and make a smoothie out of it and so on so on.

It is like any innovation we make these days has to do with how much we shove into a pussy and we are in a strange arms race to see who can out extreme that person in search of that elusive sign up.

Well said.

I always say "Everything in Moderation,Including Moderation". :thumbsup

I think you guys all realise that she does make some valid points.

Prime example of this is here https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1047098

This is exactly what she is talking about. This is not sex, it is a freak show. It is degrading and revolting.

We also know that there is no such thing as age veryfication anymore. Very impressionable children are being taught how to have sex and treat women by wall to wall free tubes.

This is a very unpalitable fact for us all. Manwin actually has more influence on the sexual and emotional education of our children the the state or society in general.

She is also absolutely correct to describe "porn sex" in the way that she does. Just as our children are growing up being more comfortable txting rather than actually talking to each other, they are also growing up with "porn sex" as being an acceptable way to have a sexual relationship.

Which is a great case for ISPs to filter out porn sites unless the end user opts in.

Is a sex shop which has a blacked out window and bars under age people stopping "Freedom of Speech"?

An undeniable fact is that in countries where porn has been legalised and widely available sex crimes have dropped. Not in isolated countries, in many countries.

IMO a lot of the people shooting extreme are doing so to make up for their lack of ability to shoot sensual sex. We all know how well sites like Met Art do. And how hard it is to get to that level. So some don't bother, they go for the narrow market of abuse. Those that do it and promote it can only look to themselves for the answer to why.

I agree with every word of that.


I hope they do. I'd like to see some real regulation happen to our industry. We have proven time and time again we are incapable of regulating ourselves in any manner, so let them drop the hammer and let the chips fall where they may. We'll "adapt or die." And whatever does happen, we did it to ourselves.

I also agree with every word of that. I would absolutely welcome regulation and enforced age veryfication.

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As far as the "attitudes toward women" I wonder if it has ever occurred to her that angry types, such as herself, telling men & boys that they are little more than apes, incapable of thinking for themselves might have something to do with it. Alienating men as she's doing is a great way to stir up emotions toward women far more than pornography will.

As far as children being exposed to pornography, I was kind of surprised it was that low. Growing up in the 70's, it was all around us. I think I saw it first when I was around 7 or 8.. BUT the stuff back then was NOT violent at all! (or at least, what I saw) I think thats a problem.

Parents ought to install filters and sites really ought to use the RTA label, so that the filters can do their job.

The violence issue may be a problem, I don't like it. I don't like violence everywhere, in movies and video games, when a politician is asked if we should just let people die or talks about electrocuting immigrants and the crowd cheers, we know we've got a problem. I personally despise violence being linked to sex, it makes me ill.

I consider the violence in porn to be symptomatic of a bigger problem, I think we're gradually turning into psychopaths.

The other stuff, ejaculating on a womans face.. all I can say is Ewwwwww!!!!

I know it's supposed to be degrading, but it just makes me laugh. I've NEVER been able to understand why that's being done, it's about as erotic as watching a man light his farts on fire. I mean really, you're going at it, just about ready and then you pull out and race around the bed just so you can blow it in her face, C'mon! doesn't that seem silly?

The only way it could be more laughable is if the hamburglar from McDonalds was the male porn star.

I don't believe 80% of men actually WANT to do that.. but.. what do I know.. (yuck! LOL!)

As far as affecting sexuality, thats a deep subject, I think she's missing something kind of important, the difference between raw sex and love making. Porn gives you something you just can't have with your partner, in many ways, using porn is about respect, getting his needs met that way so he can be with her on a more heightened level.

There's something else she missed out on, more women are using porn these days... but I suppose someone liker her would leave that out, wouldn't she?

country music makes people violent.

After a couple years of doing absolutely nothing but saying dumb shit about things he knows nothing about and insulting others in the process as he desperately begs for attention and recognition like a 6 year old who's dad is a alcoholic,.... he finally figures out to try to start obvious threads that everyone can agree with as a tactic to slow his total and complete alienation from the community.

Of course, he can't go more than a few hours without fucking that up and being a pompous ass, so it will be fun to watch.

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No kidding!

"Attitude adjustment" Hank Williams Jr. anyone? (yuck.. country.. pleh!)

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I play call of duty daily, and it's comical. They have entire servers where you can't swear? You can call in an air strike and kill ten people in a heartbeat, but swearing is bad.

It is like a friend of mine and their kids. They have two kids a boy who is 16 and a girl who is 14. They will not let them watch a movie that has nudity or sex of any kind in it, but they have no problem with them watching movies where people are graphically blown apart. The same with video games. The kids can play all the violent video games they want.

When I ask them why they say the kids are not ready to see the nudity or sex. So I say, "So in your opinion they are not ready to see something normal and natural that everyone ends up doing and is often an expression of love, but you are okay with them seeing a guy cut off a guy's arm and then use that severed arm to beat other people to death with?"

They have it in their heads that violence has no effect on the kids because they know it is fake, but somehow seeing a naked woman will cause their heads to erupt.

I did have to laugh when I once said, "Here's a news flash. Your son is 16, there is a pretty good chance he has a stash of porn somewhere and he beats of ferociously to it." The mom refused to believe it, but the father agreed with me.

Our self regulation is no regulation. So it will come, whether we like it or not.

That's why there is more porn when the society fails... :2 cents:

Well Harlequin romance novels and soap operas also give an unrealistic view of relationships and there isn't a call (nor should there be) to ban them too.

I think it's a reflection on both but mostly society. :2 cents:

I beat my dog because of porn

Look at the number of people who scream at a dating site for ripping them off or shaving/skimming joins and don't even think of the hypocrisy they are screaming about. It's a pretty sure thing that many of the profiles, emails and adverts feature girls who don't exist and these guys think ripping off the customer is fine, so long as they get paid. Then penis pills and similar. Like does anyone think they're ripping off customers? No they think "How much does it pay me today."

Online porn desperately needs legislation if it is too prosper and get away from where it's steadily heading, as a tool to drive traffic to other sites. Selling traffic, fake Dating and Pills. :upsidedow

lol go take a nap. society does not care about porn. no one cares. get over yourself you sad narcissist.

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The market grows every year, more people get a slice of the pie with the big companies now controlling a huge chunk of it.

Really?

Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup

some people will always think porn is bad. It goes back to early religious teachings. That will fly over the heads of most. Man's natural healthy sexual motivations have been condemned and turned into a sin by the Church and other religions for millennium. Therefore a hate of porn that expresses and satisfies the natural urges is condemned.

OK extreme porn is bad and man;s need for it should be examined away from the pigeon holing of it as porn. Trying to snag the rest along with it, into one convenient bundle.

Why does a man want to smear shit all over a women, do what Max Hardcore does,or inflict pain or humiliation is an arena that should be about pleasure and joy. And before the obvious question comes. Why do some get pleasure and joy from inflicting pain or humiliation on others or even on themselves?

I know a bit deep for GFY, still this is where this woman should be looking to.

Affiliates ripping off surfers to make a buck and then screaming blue murder they're getting ripped off. That's more a reflection on what online porn has become.

Agree that restriction causes it's own demand and today porn is far too available and therefore of little value.

One of my jobs is working at a videostore. There was a day in which a woman called up and asked if there was sex and nudity in John Carpenter's Halloween. She wanted to know in order to decide if she would let her son rent it. She was bothered that her son saw Friday the 13th and that there was sex and nudity in it. I told her about what sex and nudity is in Halloween. I answered her question as best I could but It struck me funny that
it did not concern that both movies are about serial killers.

Yep, it amuses the hell out of me that somehow boobies are bad but dismemberment is okay.

This is something this foolish woman should be looking into and its relationship to porn.

But that's not her agenda and no one else would listen.

paul you sound guilty. like your conscience isn't fully clear on the matter.

It is isn't It

Nice try troll. :1orglaugh

Abusive assholes are who cause violence against women.

paul markham you are my idol!!!!

Yeah, have a kid grow up watching his mom get bit up and then blame porn because he thinks it is normal to hit a girl.

Porn gets more and more aggressive for the shock factor not because every guy secretly wants to get home, bit the crap out of his wife, pull a Texas chilli dog and then go have dinner with the kids.

The problem is the society of excess that we live in and how people are raising their kids. The choices that parents make when bringing up their children is what fucks up society but it is just a lot easier to point the finger at the porn industry than to take blame for the fucked up world we live in.

the real issue that as far as human relations we are still at a primitive level. although many men proclaim to be white knights and love women the real reality is many many men hate women, fear them, denigrate them, see them solely as sex objects, think they are stupid. porn reflects that. then those videos create a feedback loop that accelerates those worldviews. it's a complex issue, but getting rid of porn wont cure misogyny. that is a fantasy, but to say porn has no negative effects at all is fantasy as well.

of course guys who pimp out their wives will say i'm wrong.