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Barefootsies 11-26-2011 01:48 PM

YouTube Becoming the Next MySpace
 
Lately I have noticed that YT is getting overrun with this technique.

When a new song comes out I like, historically it's been easier to just watch the band's music video on YouTube. However, I have noticed recently there is an endless amount of people making "Official Music Video..." of whomever and then you get some sort of B list interview show, or some dude talking about the music video and how she did him wrong, or alike. Some have went so far as to screen cap the first frame of the actual REAL music video to get people to click on their video.

You used to see this on rare occasion, and sure it was annoying. But in the past week I have tried to look up roughly three dozen different videos and endless caught in this loop of bullshit videos instead of the official one. Which is often times not even listed in the main selections. You have to scroll down, know what is the opening shot, and eventually find it.

While I am sure it's great for affiliate marketers to game the system. At some point it literally overruns a good service and makes it worthless to the end user. I can only imagine the frustration by those who use YT a lot more than I do.

:2 cents:

blackmonsters 11-26-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18587562)
Lately I have noticed that YT is getting overrun with this technique.

When a new song comes out I like, historically it's been easier to just watch the band's music video on YouTube. However, I have noticed recently there is an endless amount of people making "Official Music Video..." of whomever and then you get some sort of B list interview show, or some dude talking about the music video and how she did him wrong, or alike. Some have went so far as to screen cap the first frame of the actual REAL music video to get people to click on their video.

You used to see this on rare occasion, and sure it was annoying. But in the past week I have tried to look up roughly three dozen different videos and endless caught in this loop of bullshit videos instead of the official one. Which is often times not even listed in the main selections. You have to scroll down, know what is the opening shot, and eventually find it.

While I am sure it's great for affiliate marketers to game the system. At some point it literally overruns a good service and makes it worthless to the end user. I can only imagine the frustration by those who use YT a lot more than I do.

:2 cents:

Wow, and just think that if copyright enforcement was actually happening then there
would only be one video uploaded (by the band) and you would find the correct one in
just one click.

Too bad.

It's "fair use" to put up a bunch of dumb shit containing copyrighted pics and video.

:1orglaugh

porno jew 11-26-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18587570)
Wow, and just think that if copyright enforcement was actually happening then there
would only be one video uploaded (by the band) and you would find the correct one in
just one click.

Too bad.

It's "fair use" to put up a bunch of dumb shit containing copyrighted pics and video.

:1orglaugh

try and upload copyrighted materials and see what happens.

anyways never had an issue. look at how many views the video has. the official should have more.

crockett 11-26-2011 02:01 PM

Ironically MySpace has done a complete rework into something new. Looks kinda like a online magazine now and kind of a interesting turn around.



edit.. fixed the url

Barefootsies 11-26-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18587572)
Ironically MySpace has done a complete rework into something new. Looks kinda like a online magazine now and kind of a interesting turn around.

Seems the new owners are taking the site in a new direction to revive that beaut.

blackmonsters 11-26-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18587571)
try and upload copyrighted materials and see what happens.

anyways never had an issue. look at how many views the video has. the official should have more.

I tried and it worked :

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dTzc7hdvKaY




:1orglaugh

Barefootsies 11-26-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18587575)
I tried and it worked :

:1orglaugh


NaughtyVisions 11-26-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18587571)
try and upload copyrighted materials and see what happens.

anyways never had an issue. look at how many views the video has. the official should have more.

That ^^^^^

And I've noticed that a lot of the mainstream artists now have their "Official Videos" through Vevo on YT. So I generally look for the video uploaded by "HollywoodUndeadVEVO" or whatever.

stocktrader23 11-26-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18587570)
Wow, and just think that if copyright enforcement was actually happening then there
would only be one video uploaded (by the band) and you would find the correct one in
just one click.

Too bad.

It's "fair use" to put up a bunch of dumb shit containing copyrighted pics and video.

:1orglaugh

Here we go again.

The reason YouTube doesn't get in trouble is safe harbor, not fair use. Instead of being able to sue YouTube the content owner would have to DMCA then sue the submitter if they didn't respond or put the request in to republish it. Doing what was described above is not even fair use anyhow, nobody has ever claimed that it was.

Your point about making it easier to go after infringing material has nothing to do with fair use. If you want to debate the pros and cons of that there are a lot here that would chime in but you are talking nonsense at the moment.

Also, please remove the copyrighted picture from your avatar.
Edit: I forgot that you claimed fair use on that from our last discussion.

blackmonsters 11-26-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18587591)
Here we go again.

The reason YouTube doesn't get in trouble is safe harbor, not fair use. Instead of being able to sue YouTube the content owner would have to DMCA then sue the submitter if they didn't respond or put the request in to republish it. Doing what was described above is not even fair use anyhow, nobody has ever claimed that it was.

Your point about making it easier to go after infringing material has nothing to do with fair use. If you want to debate the pros and cons of that there are a lot here that would chime in but you are talking nonsense at the moment.

Also, please remove the copyrighted picture from your avatar.
Edit: I forgot that you claimed fair use on that from our last discussion.

Of course what I described is not fair use.
Ever hear of "sarcasm"?

Quit being retarded.


PS: GFY will remove my Avatar as soon as they get the DCMA


:1orglaugh

raymor 11-26-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18587591)
Here we go again.

The reason YouTube doesn't get in trouble is safe harbor, not fair use. Instead of being able to sue YouTube the content owner would have to DMCA then sue the submitter if they didn't respond or put the request in to republish it. Doing what was described above is not even fair use anyhow, nobody has ever claimed that it was.

Your point about making it easier to go after infringing material has nothing to do with fair use. If you want to debate the pros and cons of that there are a lot here that would chime in but you are talking nonsense at the moment.

Also, please remove the copyrighted picture from your avatar.
Edit: I forgot that you claimed fair use on that from our last discussion.


Do you think any of the people who upload to Youtube claim fair use? It doesn't sound fair to me, but do some uploaders think that all use is fair?

stocktrader23 11-26-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18587629)
Do you think any of the people who upload to Youtube claim fair use? It doesn't sound fair to me, but do some uploaders think that all use is fair?

A growing number of people thing "information is free". They carry this attitude over to art and think stopping the flow of information / art is wrong. So no, most don't think it's fair use legally, they just don't care. The people uploading what's described above are just spamming.

Solace 11-27-2011 06:17 PM

Youtube has the best traffic quality in my esteemed opinion.

VenzuelanChick 11-28-2011 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 18587572)
Ironically MySpace has done a complete rework into something new. Looks kinda like a online magazine now and kind of a interesting turn around.

I had not been on myspace in ages and I have to say I like it much better now :thumbsup

Failed 11-28-2011 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18587570)
Wow, and just think that if copyright enforcement was actually happening then there
would only be one video uploaded (by the band) and you would find the correct one in
just one click.

Too bad.

It's "fair use" to put up a bunch of dumb shit containing copyrighted pics and video.

:1orglaugh

If you only use one frame from a music video, it is fair use. That's what the op is saying, they take a frame from the original music video, make it the thumbnail pic for their own bullshit video, so it appears to be the real thing.

crash_jackson 11-28-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18587578)

lol... crazy!!!

CaptainHowdy 11-28-2011 12:07 PM

I wasn't here ...

scuba steve 11-28-2011 12:19 PM

pretty sure youtube won't run into the ground like myspace did

Solace 11-28-2011 01:42 PM

Douche bagery


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