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JohnRingo 11-28-2011 09:16 PM

serious question concerning mobile redirects...
 
does it hurt your original site's SEO?

i am using juicy ads mobile and have it going through juicy and then onto another of my sites if they don't serve an add...

i checked my analytics and see search traffic to my brand new 3 page site for terms from my OG site... i understand how this happens, just curious if it's doing damage

edgeprod 11-28-2011 09:18 PM

If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

Adam X 11-28-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18591717)
If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

good answer

JohnRingo 11-28-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18591717)
If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

because google works in mysterious ways.......

edgeprod 11-28-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRingo (Post 18591730)
because google works in mysterious ways.......

Usually less mysteriously than people think.

Fenris Wolf 11-28-2011 09:28 PM

I have been redirecting my mobile traffic for over a year now and I have not seen any negative changes.

anexsia 11-28-2011 09:35 PM

Anyone have good experiences redirecting ALL of their mobile traffic to Juicy Ads? If I redirected a lot of my traffic I would be making around $15/daily at Juicy soo around $450/monthly which I could use to buy advertising or just use as extra income...just wondering if this would be a good idea or not.

JohnRingo 11-28-2011 09:47 PM

i have a small site with small traffic and use juicy mobile and make good money considering

highly recommended! juicy juicy

VenusBlogger 11-28-2011 10:41 PM

Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.

CyberHustler 11-28-2011 10:52 PM

In my honest opinion, redirecting ALL your mobile traffic should be some last resort can't make a dime doing shit else thing...

edgeprod 11-28-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 18591818)
Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.

I only direct certain phones to the mobile pages, and I offer the option to "break out" and use the full site if they so choose.

Jakez 11-28-2011 11:10 PM

Been redirecting mobile for at least a year now to various places, not just a site or two but with an .htaccess file in the root of my server redirected everything (besides a few specific sites that are sent elsewhere for niche and better conversion purposes), never really noticed any substantial dips, the amount of traffic has only risen over time.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18591717)
If you're only redirecting mobile browsers and not GoogleBot, why would it?

So you receive the mobile traffic because of the page you're redirecting to and not the non-mobile version of your page?

Edit: I see what you mean now, you receive the traffic because the googlebot is not mobile. So there is no mobile googlebot? Hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 18591818)
Does it really make sense to use those redirects?

Nowadays most people enter with smartphones, as I can see in my stats, and in smartphones, people see your sites like in a small computer... So it really makes no sense to use those redirects..

Of course im not a mobile specialist, correct me if im wrong, but when I see an adult blog in a smartphone, I see it as in a small computer, the wordpress theme is rendered the same way. Again correct me if im wrong.

I wonder the same thing. I think at this point in time it is still better to send them to something directly made for mobile. In the future when it's more likely to convert mobile as well as the non-mobile on the same page it might not be a good idea to just redirect all this traffic somewhere. :2 cents:

But of course that depends on if you're trying to make money or gain readers.

Sabby 11-28-2011 11:10 PM

Nobody that wonders wtf cares what u do.

edgeprod 11-28-2011 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18591849)
Edit: I see what you mean now, you receive the traffic because the googlebot is not mobile. So there is no mobile googlebot? Hard to believe.

I answered his question as I interpreted it: does Google penalize you for having mobile redirects? No, when done properly. You can optimize a separate subdomain for mobile (e.g., mobile.domain.com) which can be fed to GoogleBot. You don't want your mobile site ranking for non-mobile users, optimally. Your non-mobile site is fine to rank for mobile users, because they'll get redirected.

Hope that makes sense.

JohnRingo 11-28-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18591836)
In my honest opinion, redirecting ALL your mobile traffic should be some last resort can't make a dime doing shit else thing...

Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.

edgeprod 11-28-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRingo (Post 18591865)
Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.

This approach is used in two common scenarios: 1) when you cannot convert your own mobile traffic (in JR's case, his content may not be applicable for mobile), and 2) when you don't have significant mobile traffic to warrant catering to it.

Jakez 11-28-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRingo (Post 18591865)
Not entirely true. I have a site that does well but doesn't convert mobile. So yes, using juicy mobile ads is a nice way to add to the bottom line.

Exactly. But like I said, in the future, who knows if mobile traffic will convert close to non-mobile on the same non-mobile site. For now IMO it's a good idea to redirect it somewhere to make the most of it.

JohnRingo 11-29-2011 12:05 AM

And the awesome thing with juicy is that their mobile code offers u to pass through to another of your more mOblie friendly sites as wel.

Jakez 11-29-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRingo (Post 18591880)
And the awesome thing with juicy is that their mobile code offers u to pass through to another of your more mOblie friendly sites as wel.

Know of any places to send the non-purchased traffic that pays similar to Juicy? :winkwink:

JohnRingo 11-29-2011 12:20 AM

I like how I think

Konda 11-29-2011 12:32 AM

Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

Jakez 11-29-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18591908)
Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

Interesting. But it surely to depends on the site?

Also, most paysites will redirect your mobile traffic to their mobile version, which has far different conversions.

Konda 11-29-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18591948)
Interesting. But it surely to depends on the site?

Also, most paysites will redirect your mobile traffic to their mobile version, which has far different conversions.

I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.

edgeprod 11-29-2011 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18591975)
I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.

This has also been my experience. I do not redirect iPad/iPod/iPhone users to mobile on most sites. And on the few that I do, I give them the option to see the full site instead. :2 cents:

JohnRingo 11-29-2011 05:48 AM

I would think that a lesson can be learned from this. From what I see, mobile versions of sites give away a lot less free content. Could this be why they convert so well?

Fletch XXX 11-29-2011 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18591908)
Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

more and more devices read pure html

Jel 11-29-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18591975)
I noticed indeed that some paysites are sending their iPhone and iPad traffic to their mobile versions, I am sure most of them have not even bothered to check if they are actually making more sales from this traffic by doing this. I have done a lot of tests in this field and on all tests iPhone and iPad traffic converts better on non-mobile versions.

:thumbsup

HomerSimpson 11-29-2011 06:13 PM

Google says:
- if you redirect it to mobile version of your site - they will improve your rankings
- if you redirect it somewhere else - they will fuck you up (or at least will not send you any mobile traffic)

just my 2c

JohnRingo 11-29-2011 08:46 PM

Well I am testing this and will let u know

Solace 11-29-2011 08:57 PM

It's got to suck being dependent on a 3rd party for traffic man oh man

JohnRingo 11-30-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Solace (Post 18594050)
It's got to suck being dependent on a 3rd party for traffic man oh man

only a sith deals in absolutes

Roald 11-30-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18591908)
Just an advice for people. Do NOT redirect iPad and iPhone traffic to mobile sites. I have done extensive testing with this, and you will get MORE sales form your iPhone and iPad traffic if you send them to the full site instead of the mobile version.

What would be a logic explaination for this?

We only redirect iphone traffic to mobile, not the ipad though. We also still offer the full desktop option if they want.

Are you talking about paysites?

Thanks.

slapass 11-30-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 18593830)
Google says:
- if you redirect it to mobile version of your site - they will improve your rankings
- if you redirect it somewhere else - they will fuck you up (or at least will not send you any mobile traffic)

just my 2c

This mirrors my experience.


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