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wehateporn 12-03-2011 04:03 PM

Albert Pike's 1871 Plan For The Three World Wars
 
Previously on display in the British Museum Library in London

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

* "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

* "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

* "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion?We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."



Sly 12-03-2011 04:09 PM

That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?

seeandsee 12-03-2011 04:09 PM

If this is real, well bastard didt know about NUKES :d

Phoenix 12-03-2011 04:13 PM

yeah id like someone to fact check that

porno jew 12-03-2011 04:13 PM

another fake quote. interesting i guess if you believed everything you read on the internet.

(yes i researched this ages ago. it's fake. but don't trust me. do your own research.)

wehateporn 12-03-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18605022)
That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?

The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:

WarChild 12-03-2011 04:15 PM

My god are you ever fucking stupid. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sly 12-03-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605041)
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:

Of course, why didn't I think of that?

alias 12-03-2011 04:16 PM

Hail Satan.

WarChild 12-03-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605041)
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:

Yeah that's the only explanation. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CyberHustler 12-03-2011 04:23 PM

I'm selling Luciferian Doctrine's... for cheap, Paypal only though.

cykoe6 12-03-2011 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605041)
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:


Very well put. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Rochard 12-03-2011 05:31 PM

There was no such thing of the Nazi party before 1919.

L-Pink 12-03-2011 05:35 PM

I call bullshit ... youtube wasn't around in 1871!!!

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wehateporn 12-03-2011 05:40 PM

The letter appeared on the scene in 1955 in a book by William Guy Carr (June 2, 1895 - October 2, 1959) named Pawns in the Game (1955). Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle

From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr

"Carr states that he learned of this conspiracy from a letter written by Pike and addressed to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini."

"Carr states that he learned about the letter from the anti-Mason, Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, author of The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled"

"The reference Terry Melanson gives a good treatment to the three world war theory. Michael Haupt had taken the three world war theory from the introduction of Carr's Pawns in the Game(1958). This introduction outlines a plan that Carr attributes to Pike, but not to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. Only the last section of the three world war plan in Haupt's text is a quote attributed to the letter from Pike to Mazzini. This quote is virtually identical to the one in Rodrique's book and it can be traced to the book Le diable au XIXe siècle (1894) by Gabriel Jagond-Pager aka Leo Taxil, where it is claimed to be from a letter of Pike to Mazzini written in 1871. This quote was later considered to describe the Bolshevik revolution, but whether a hoax or not, it predates 1917."

Brujah 12-03-2011 05:47 PM

I gotta just put this guy on ignore. He never fact checks anything, just whatever he wants to believe is true.

porno jew 12-03-2011 05:56 PM

ok in your op you source it by saying that it's in the British Museum then you follow up your attempts at proof with a source that states:

"More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt[21] that such a document has never been in their possession."

serious question. how far did you go in formal education?

wehateporn 12-03-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18605177)
I gotta just put this guy on ignore. He never fact checks anything, just whatever he wants to believe is true.

As I said above, make of it what you will. :2 cents:

"Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle"

wehateporn 12-03-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18605187)
ok in your op you source it by saying that it's in the British Museum then you follow up your attempts at proof with a source that states:

"More recently, the British Museum confirmed in writing to researcher Michael Haupt[21] that such a document has never been in their possession."

serious question. how far did you go in formal education?

You're right about the British Museum, I found that after I posted

I was a high flyer in education, but that would be a diversion

porno jew 12-03-2011 06:05 PM

since you believe any piece of shit source as long as it confirms your worldview you might as well cut out the middleman and just make up your own letters, books and quotes.

wehateporn 12-03-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18605200)
since you believe any piece of shit source as long as it confirms your worldview you might as well cut out the middleman and just make up your own letters, books and quotes.

I posted it when I first found it, I was interested to see if anyone else had come across it before, like you had. I was researching it at the same time as posts were appearing here. It takes me a long time before I'll draw a conclusion, at the point when I posted it up it was just something interesting that I wanted to look into.

I do like to keep an open-mind and not immediately write these things off, as there would be a big reason for people to hide this information if it did exist.

I'm sure you're just trying to stimulate posts, and succeeding; well done :thumbsup

TheSquealer 12-03-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605041)
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:

hahaa

Thats all you can think of?

Really?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

porno jew 12-03-2011 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605210)
I posted it when I first found it, I was interested to see if anyone else had come across it before, like you had. I was researching it at the same time as posts were appearing here. It takes me a long time before I'll draw a conclusion, at the point when I posted it up it was just something interesting that I wanted to look into.

I do like to keep an open-mind and not immediately write these things off, as there would be a big reason for people to hide this information if it did exist.

I'm sure you're just trying to stimulate posts, and succeeding; well done :thumbsup

the next time you come across something that confirms your preconceptions and makes you go "eureka!" fire up the google and wikipedia first and see if it's just not some made up crap otherwise by spreading inaccurate shit you are just making the knowledge base of the world worse, not better.

Caligari 12-03-2011 07:30 PM

I don't know about that stuff, but here is some reality on Pike for ya-
http://dcpages.com/gallery/Albert_Pi...Washington_DC/
Pike is the only CONFEDERATE miltary figure to have a statue in Washington DC.

Why would a major pro slavery confederate general have a statue still standing in Washington?

He held the position of Sovereign Grand Commander in the southern Masonic Scottish Rite for many years and was considered a Freemason leader in the U.S.

Quote:

During his lifetime, Boston-born Pike was an author, educator, lawyer, Confederate brigadier general, newspaper editor, poet, and a Thirty-third Degree Mason. From its earliest roots in the Southern Rights Clubs in 1835, the Knights of the Golden Circle was to become the most powerful secret and subversive organization in the history of the United States with members in every state and territory before the end of the Civil War.
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xholly 12-03-2011 09:06 PM

fucking hilarious.

i enjoyed reading a few of your posts and got a chuckle out of your craziness and amazing ability to believe any stupid shit you come across but yeah, I think if I read many more of your posts ill end up retarded so I must stop.

this wasn't even good, i could make up far better stuff. you should look into the history of world war 1 and how it started, it really is very interesting and a total tragedy.

or go look up more fiction and remain ignorant. whatever.

WarChild 12-03-2011 09:07 PM

Better be very careful or you'll lose that reputation you have for "being proven right". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

porno jew 12-03-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18605314)
I don't know about that stuff, but here is some reality on Pike for ya-
http://dcpages.com/gallery/Albert_Pi...Washington_DC/
Pike is the only CONFEDERATE miltary figure to have a statue in Washington DC.

Why would a major pro slavery confederate general have a statue still standing in Washington?

He held the position of Sovereign Grand Commander in the southern Masonic Scottish Rite for many years and was considered a Freemason leader in the U.S.



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look you can believe that pike did exist and even was a freemason but that does not validate the garbage that is often attributed to him.

Caligari 12-03-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18605421)
look you can believe that pike did exist and even was a freemason but that does not validate the garbage that is often attributed to him.

I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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bushwacker 12-03-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605041)
The only explanation I can think of is if there was a Master Plan :2 cents:


:eek7:eek7

porno jew 12-03-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18605438)
I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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my point is so what? he has a statute.

porno jew 12-03-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18605438)
I can believe that Pike existed? Well thanks;)

So go ahead and disprove anything I quoted or made reference to. I'll be waiting...


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might as well state what you are trying to imply about pike.

V_RocKs 12-03-2011 10:40 PM

Going to smoke a blunt and see if this shit makes better sense.

Caligari 12-04-2011 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18605444)
my point is so what? he has a statute.

statue.

a confederate slave owning general has a statue in washinton dc. that is so what.

the point is only the winners get statues...on their own home turf.

a theory is that Pike was a main player in the British plan to instigate a civil war while declaring their "neutrality."

yes another crazy conspiracy theory...

until you look at the facts-
1)Britain had far more invested in the south, commodities, exports-
2)The British publicly were "neutral" during the war.
3)The British built at least two major warships for the confederates for the civil war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain...ican_Civil_War
4)
The British ran blockades for the confederates during the civil war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockad...ican_Civil_War
Quote:

Great Britain played a major role on the blockade running business, as they had huge investments in the south and were the recipients of many commodities exported goods, especially cotton. To protect their interests British investors had engineered steamships that were longer, narrower and considerably faster than most of the conventional steamers guarding the American coastline, thus enabling them to out-maneuver and out-run Union ships on blockade patrol.
These vessels also served to import badly needed supplies, especially firearms, and also served to bring mail to and from the Confederacy."
So we know one thing, the British govt was flat out lying saying they were "neutral" during the Civil War.
The only reason they paid this lip service was to keep Lincoln from declaring war on Britain.

So once again, why would a losing confederate slave owning general have a statue erected in Washington DC?

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porno jew 12-04-2011 09:28 AM

the statute was paid for by some freemasonic societies. he was a freemason. as were (and are) many of the professional / land owning classes then and now.

what is your point?

i guess you see it is proof of the illuminati and i see it proof he belonged to a fraternal order. that's where we differ. you get your ideas about the freemasons from crack pot christian and anti-semitic sources and i get mine from reality.

why don't you pop down to your local lodge today and talk to them. not like they are hiding.

Caligari 12-04-2011 09:34 AM

Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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porno jew 12-04-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18606161)
Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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listen man there is no point trying to argue about something i have to guess what i am arguing about. post your opinion, sources anything. you are like the paul markham of conspiracy theories.

i can bet i've read and studied more about the illuminati and freemasons than you, talked with more freemasons irl than you, so spare me the false dichotomy world view of "you the guy who sees through the matrix > me the sleepwalking fox news watching sheep" worldview you have.

WarChild 12-04-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18606161)
Oi Vey, yet another one who has no clue as to who the illuminati were...

There is no mystery surrounding the freemasons or the illuminati, nor is there any conspiracy.

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No you're right. The Illuminati were a group of free thinkers or "enlightened ones" that met in secret to avoid religious persecution of their scientific ideas. They've been gone for hundreds of years. Glad you're finally coming around to reality!

WarChild 12-04-2011 11:35 AM

I'm sure you morons are good and confused about this one too so let me clarify for you.

"A new World order" = A global change.

"The New World Order" =

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OjrbRW6e1V...s/s400/nwo.jpg

_Richard_ 12-04-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18605022)
That's pretty interesting considering the Nazi party was not created until the 1920s. When was "nazism" first coined?

and i don't think zionism because a 'reality' till the checkmate on the british

porno jew 12-04-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18606327)
and i don't think zionism because a 'reality' till the checkmate on the british

read some histories of zionism. laqueur's book is decent primer on the subject. or you can keep educating yourself with youtube videos. :1orglaugh

garce 12-04-2011 03:54 PM

Yay! More cut and paste without an opinion expressed! Awesome show! Great job!

baddog 12-04-2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18605160)
I call bullshit ... youtube wasn't around in 1871!!!

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Precisely

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18605171)
The letter appeared on the scene in 1955 in a book by William Guy Carr (June 2, 1895 - October 2, 1959) named Pawns in the Game (1955). Hoax or not a hoax, the third part of the World War plan was first sited in a 1894 book Le diable au XIXe siècle

From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Guy_Carr

Well, if it is on wikipedia it has to be true.

Fletch XXX 12-04-2011 04:01 PM

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism"

damn that sounds cool.

Si 12-04-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18606690)
"We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism"

damn that sounds cool.

Atheists are evil I guess? :1orglaugh

All off this conspiracy is even more hilarious when the "goal" is apparently bringing "lucifer" to the earth.


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