Paul Markham |
01-12-2012 12:13 PM |
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Originally Posted by pornguy
(Post 18684455)
Paul.. While I understand your point ( and that scares the shit out of me ) gone are the days of the real leaders of this country. Back when there was a balanced budget and they still defended us from invasion. ( think British rule )
We actually had a Surplus of money at the beginning of the civil war and If I recall correctly it was balanced again and in the Black not long after. Then Government started to grow and the hands started to take more cookies from the jar.
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Interesting point. The days before the US became a massive importer. Because goods from Mexico were cheaper and companies sacked US workers and opened a factory in Mexico. Do you want to go back to the days when a balanced economy was the norm? Look at those days before you choose. I lived through it and we were poor compared with today. The unbalanced economy paid for our lifestyle. Now we repay the debt.
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Originally Posted by tony286
(Post 18684628)
?There is nobody in this country who got rich on their own. Nobody. You built a factory out there - good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory... Now look. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea - God bless! Keep a hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.?
― Elizabeth Warren
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QFT
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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
(Post 18684648)
Nicely poetic, but a lot of fallacies there. Almost all of the services described can be done better and more efficiently by the private sector, and originally were. The ONLY ones which are the true pervue of the government is law enforcement and national defense. Roads, Schools, fire department, etc... can, and has been, done better by private industry, not government.
.:2 cents:
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Enron. Union Carbide Corporation. No need to say more. It would take to long to list all the reasons you're wrong. But I will as always.
Who sets out the laws for the private companies to abide by. Who collects, builds and regulates the Roads, Schools, Fire Brigades, Hospital, etc. The private companies or Government?
Because if you lived in an area where it wasn't profitable to have a fire station, you would have to move. If you couldn't afford to move and a fire started in your house, does your neighbors insurance if he has one, cover you or do you perish and the fire brigade only get called out when his fire is well under way. Won't even go the route of wild fires in the forests and wilderness areas. Too easy a target to shoot you down.
There are many things a central governing body has to regulate. Like what is safe to eat and unsafe, speed limits on the private roads, manufacture of the private run roads, upkeep of the private roads. And everything else. You can have a Government that is answerable to the people every 4/5 years. Or a private company who s answerable to share holders. Take your choice.
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