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gideongallery 01-12-2012 04:37 PM

mc hammer speaks out about sopa
 
http://torrentfreak.com/mc-hammer-sp...t-sopa-120110/

blackmonsters 01-12-2012 04:38 PM

I'd speak out too if my shit no longer sold.

:1orglaugh

Phoenix 01-12-2012 04:38 PM

i clicked this then i realized you wrote MC Hammer...so i'm backing out now ;)

L-Pink 01-12-2012 04:54 PM

WARNING: Free-boy propaganda post.

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porno jew 01-12-2012 04:56 PM

if they can't do anything to .com .net .or seems pointless anyway.

gideongallery 01-12-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18685474)
I'd speak out too if my shit no longer sold.

:1orglaugh

i suppose that the same argument you would use against justin bieber too.

blackmonsters 01-12-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18685577)
i suppose that the same argument you would use against justin bieber too.

Good point, we should listen to children who can't vote and will never finish high school.

:1orglaugh

bronco67 01-12-2012 07:00 PM

Wow, the freetards are getting desperate. They see their hopes and dreams ready to slip away. Might as well jump in front of a train now.

gideongallery 01-13-2012 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18685630)
Good point, we should listen to children who can't vote and will never finish high school.

:1orglaugh

both mc hammer and Justin make way more money then you do with their copyrighted works

they have way more to lose from piracy and yet they both come out against it.

Captain Kawaii 01-13-2012 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18686224)
both mc hammer and Justin make way more money then you do with their copyrighted works

they have way more to lose from piracy and yet they both come out against it.

LMFAO...Hammer is washing cars at sunset and fairfax...You'd piss me off but you just too damn stupid.

Klen 01-13-2012 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18686228)
LMFAO...Hammer is washing cars at sunset and fairfax...You'd piss me off but you just too damn stupid.

And he also have huge debt,close to bankruptcy.

gideongallery 01-14-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18686228)
LMFAO...Hammer is washing cars at sunset and fairfax...You'd piss me off but you just too damn stupid.

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18686230)
And he also have huge debt,close to bankruptcy.

oh really

http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/29/mc-...runch-disrupt/


he owns an upstart record label which focus on promoting artist using new technology.


he is easily bringing 2-3 million a year from his old songs just from the VC convention circuit.

and that doesn't include the money his is making from investments, and his side business.

i bet he his clearing way more per year then black monsters is with is

Klen 01-14-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688327)
oh really

http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/29/mc-...runch-disrupt/


he owns an upstart record label which focus on promoting artist using new technology.


he is easily bringing 2-3 million a year from his old songs just from the VC convention circuit.

and that doesn't include the money his is making from investments, and his side business.

i bet he his clearing way more per year then black monsters is with is

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...0/ai_18404257/

Fletch XXX 01-14-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18688360)

yet when old toupee wearing Donald Trump does it, they call it "business move"

lol

Dirty Dane 01-14-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18685474)
I'd speak out too if my shit no longer sold.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

gideongallery 01-14-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18688360)

Quote:

June 24, 1996
seriously did you even read the date of the article

mc hammer now owns a tv production company (which produced his reality show and a shit load of stuff)

does 2-3 million dollars a year in personal appearances

and owns a record company which promotes dozens of rappers, singers and bands.

porno jew 01-14-2012 11:06 AM

he is against it because his new venture is a search engine. hardly an unbiased participant.

when you the dalai lama involved let me know.

Klen 01-14-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688514)
seriously did you even read the date of the article

mc hammer now owns a tv production company (which produced his reality show and a shit load of stuff)

does 2-3 million dollars a year in personal appearances

and owns a record company which promotes dozens of rappers, singers and bands.

That doesn't change fact how he bankrupted.

gideongallery 01-14-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18688531)
he is against it because his new venture is a search engine. hardly an unbiased participant.

when you the dalai lama involved let me know.

and you think any of the pro sopa people are unbiased

http://searchenginewatch.com/article...Engine-WireDoo

it just one of his ventures

he actually on both sides of the equation

his record company suffers from piracy, his search engine benefits from an open web.

you can bet his copyright side is worth way more money to him right now yet he still came down against sopa.( especially since wiredoo is still in pre-beta draining money stage)

http://wiredoo.com/global/signup.html


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the evolution from musician to tech entrepreneur was a natural move for Hammer; ?They go hand in hand,? he said. ?When I saw the social tools as they began to emerge - whether it be around video... whether it be about community, ie.: way back to the days of Myspace and then on into Facebook and others - as I saw that, I saw a real opportunity to engage and connect and remove the velvet rope between the musician and his fans, who are really friends and like extended family.?

he is probably the best example of an unbiased source of info, because he is on both sides of the equation.

He would want copyright protection for his record company/tv company, but at the same time want to make sure the law doesn't go so far that it would kill his search engine.

The fact that he comes out against sopa means it unbalanced.

unlike google (pro internet) or RIAA (pro copyright) who are by definition one sided, mc hammer is actually a balanced view point because he benefits from BOTH sides of the equation.

gideongallery 01-14-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18688542)
That doesn't change fact how he bankrupted.

but it does prove your present tense declaration is total utter bullshit

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And he also have huge debt,close to bankruptcy.
many very wealthy people declared bankruptcy in the past

http://www.law-margulies.com/CM/Bank...yArticles3.asp

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Henry Ford, 1863-1947, automobile manufacturer, first two automobile manufacturing companies failed. The first company filed for bankruptcy and the second ended because of a disagreement with his business partner. In June 1903, at the age of 40, he created a third company, the Ford Motor Company with a cash investment of $28,000.00. By July of 1903 the bank balance had dwindled to $223.65, but then Ford sold its first car, and as they say the rest is history.

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Henry John Heinz, 1844-1919, condiment manufacturer, started his company in 1869 selling horseradish, pickles, sauerkraut and vinegar. In 1875 the company filed for bankruptcy due to an unexpected bumper harvest which the company could not keep up with and could not meet its payroll obligations. He immediately started a new company and introduced a new condiment, tomato ketchup to the market. This company was, and continues to be, very prosperous.
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Donald Trump, 1946-, businessman, filed a Chapter 11 bankruptcy case for his casino empire in 2004 to reorganize his business after negotiations with his creditors failed. This was the second bankruptcy case for his casino business, in 1992 he had filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy for his casino business.

Tofu 01-14-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18688542)
That doesn't change fact how he bankrupted.

Lots of people go bankrupt and still are successful, later on. I'm sure you are aware of that.

Now, I'd be satisfied if he'd stop doing diss records (like the Jay-Z song).

Klen 01-15-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18688576)
but it does prove your present tense declaration is total utter bullshit



many very wealthy people declared bankruptcy in the past

http://www.law-margulies.com/CM/Bank...yArticles3.asp

But it still doesn't change fact how he bankrupted.

bristarrmodel 01-15-2012 09:10 AM

Hasn't he started some pyramid schemes now or something?

gideongallery 01-15-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18689786)
But it still doesn't change fact how he bankrupted.

so you made the arguement we shouldn't listen to him because he was going bankrupt

when he actually rich enough to buy and sell you over 100 x easy.

what your point now that you have been proven to be a lying scumbag

that we should listen to him because he built himself up from zero (bankrupt) to 100x greater then you.

SomeCreep 01-15-2012 01:19 PM

You cant touch this.


Someone had to post it.

BlackCrayon 01-15-2012 01:22 PM

please hammer, don't hurt em.

EukerVoorn 01-15-2012 02:57 PM

And what you're all forgetting is that MC Hammer owes his own succes to piracy. He used that Superfreak song from Rick James for "can't touch this". Did he ever write and create his own music or was sampling all he could do?

gideongallery 01-15-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18690220)
And what you're all forgetting is that MC Hammer owes his own succes to piracy. He used that Superfreak song from Rick James for "can't touch this". Did he ever write and create his own music or was sampling all he could do?

and you wonder why I don't want idiots who don't understand the difference between fair use sampling and infringement to have the power to blacklist sites.

Operator 01-15-2012 05:04 PM


blackmonsters 01-15-2012 05:15 PM

It's the smooth rap lyrics that make it a hit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by Operator (Post 18690433)


BlackCrayon 01-15-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18690432)
and you wonder why I don't want idiots who don't understand the difference between fair use sampling and infringement to have the power to blacklist sites.

if it was fair use then how did rick james sue hammer and win eventually getting a co-composer title and receive royalties from the song?

ArsewithClass 01-15-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18685475)
i clicked this then i realized you wrote MC Hammer...so i'm backing out now ;)

I like hammer & his music :2 cents:

gideongallery 01-15-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18690446)
if it was fair use then how did rick james sue hammer and win eventually getting a co-composer title and receive royalties from the song?

he didn't win it was settled out of court

The suit was settled out of court when Hammer agreed to credit James as co-composer



and if you know anything about the song

Stanley Burrell (MC HAMMER) wrote the lyrics

Alonzo Miller wrote the melody (music)


so that settlement was basically MC hammer keeping 100% of his royalties and Alonzo Miller Splitting his.

If you were MC hammer and you got to avoid all the legal expense of a trial you were entitled to win, and it cost you nothing to do it (and avoid all the bad press of "ripping off" a legend)

how stupid would you have to be to not settle.

porno jew 01-15-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18690432)
and you wonder why I don't want idiots who don't understand the difference between fair use sampling and infringement to have the power to blacklist sites.

"fair use sampling" lol. tell it to the judge. why so clueless about matters you are supposedly consulting people on? you are just going to get people sued with your shitty advice.

BlackCrayon 01-15-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18690531)
he didn't win it was settled out of court

The suit was settled out of court when Hammer agreed to credit James as co-composer



and if you know anything about the song

Stanley Burrell (MC HAMMER) wrote the lyrics

Alonzo Miller wrote the melody (music)


so that settlement was basically MC hammer keeping 100% of his royalties and Alonzo Miller Splitting his.

If you were MC hammer and you got to avoid all the legal expense of a trial you were entitled to win, and it cost you nothing to do it (and avoid all the bad press of "ripping off" a legend)

how stupid would you have to be to not settle.

people settle because they know they will lose 95% of the time but keep on spinning.

gideongallery 01-15-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18690650)
people settle because they know they will lose 95% of the time but keep on spinning.

bullshit if that were true the "pay up or else " scheme that AC LAW ran would never gotten off the ground.

thousands of people (including the estate of a dead person, and a blind person) paid up because it was cheaper to settle then to fight.

Two live crew suffered 2 years of bad press, even though the supreme court ultimately ruled in their favour.

gideongallery 01-15-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18690650)
people settle because they know they will lose 95% of the time but keep on spinning.

btw

you lied by claiming that rick james sued and WON

and now your trying to spin that lie with this 95% bullshit.

gideongallery 01-15-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18690650)
people settle because they know they will lose 95% of the time but keep on spinning.

and don't forget the 100s of companies right here who settled with Acacia

that patent was as valid as used toilet paper and yet hundreds of companies signed licencing deals for that craptastic patent.


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