Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695535)

ummm wrong.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695549)

If you have any image/text/brand remotely similar to your competitor all you need is a good lawyer to convince some po-dunk un-technology savvy judge to grant your request to shut off google links, block any advertiser payments. Dont be naive SOPA IS BAD FOR THE INTERNET.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695549)

If you have any image/text/brand remotely similar to your competitor all you need is a good lawyer to convince some po-dunk un-technology savvy judge to grant your request to shut off google links, block any advertiser payments. Dont be naive SOPA IS BAD FOR THE INTERNET.

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18695598)

What part of "sites primarily devoted to piracy" don't you understand? Calm down. The government isn't sending men in black helicopters to shut down your sites or drown your kittens..

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18695598)

What part of "sites primarily devoted to piracy" don't you understand?

Calm down.

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695616)

:thumbsup

not saying there are no flaws, but piracy out weighs them all!

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695549)

If you have any image/text/brand remotely similar to your competitor all you need is a good lawyer to convince some po-dunk un-technology savvy judge to grant your request to shut off google links, block any advertiser payments. Dont be naive SOPA IS BAD FOR THE INTERNET.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18695629)

um wrong.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18695629)

um wrong.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695625)

Piracy outweighs Privacy?

Seriously did you just imply that?

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695660)

Privacy does not mean to steal without repercussions

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695666)

So sue them Ed wtf? Go to court and let them defend themselves against your accusations. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695650)

Do you people realize that FORUMS such as this, and any place that a user can submit data to a website and be shown publicly can be subject to SOPA/PIPA action?

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18695682)

It costs money to sue someone and it costs rather more to sue dozens (if not hundreds) of someones. Takes forever too..

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18695719)

Seriously? It's that clean cut? Hey, I don't mean to jump you, but you're ignorant, naive, or just hypocritical. You, me, or anyone on this forum would not be here if it weren't for piracy.

They first web based pay sites content, was all stolen from BBS/Newsgroups. I know because back in 96 I lived in the Valley and would head to the Chatsworth and pitch ideas on how they need to bring their content online, only to be laughed at because this Internet thing was just a fade and they weren't interested because they were afraid it would takeaway from video sales. That's a fact.

Another fact is more then a few very wealthy people/companies in this very forum got there start and earned their first dollar in this business harvesting images BBS/NG in niche categories and then selling them to pay site owners. All the images/content were stolen as again, I know, I was there.

Piracy is what exploded internet porn. NOT GFY, vivid, Huster, AVN, Playboy etc. They were actually late comers to the game as these pirated content pay sites start making enormous amounts of money as they later turned legitimate.

So again, when I read this crybaby content theft shit on this adult/porn forum, all you can do is shake your head and laugh.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18695719)

Seriously? It's that clean cut? Hey, I don't mean to jump you, but you're ignorant, naive, or just hypocritical. You, me, or anyone on this forum would not be here if it weren't for piracy.

They first web based pay sites content, was all stolen from BBS/Newsgroups. I know because back in 96 I lived in the Valley and would head to the Chatsworth and pitch ideas on how they need to bring their content online, only to be laughed at because this Internet thing was just a fade and they weren't interested because they were afraid it would takeaway from video sales. That's a fact.

Another fact is more then a few very wealthy people/companies in this very forum got there start and earned their first dollar in this business harvesting images BBS/NG in niche categories and then selling them to pay site owners. All the images/content were stolen as again, I know, I was there.

Piracy is what exploded internet porn. NOT GFY, vivid, Huster, AVN, Playboy etc. They were actually late comers to the game as these pirated content pay sites start making enormous amounts of money as they later turned legitimate.

So again, when I read this crybaby content theft shit on this adult/porn forum, all you can do is shake your head and laugh.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695650)

Do you people realize that FORUMS such as this, and any place that a user can submit data to a website and be shown publicly can be subject to SOPA/PIPA action?

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695738)

Your totally right. wow, porn would have never been on the net without piracy! it doesn't matter if thats how things started, fact is nobody has the right to steal my content or anybody elses! Theives should be shut down and punished, yes it is that simple. and any website owner should be held responsible for any content on their website. user uploads should all have to be screened and approved!

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695748)

And you have tools to help you shut down and punish pirates and seek financial restitution from them right now, why do you have to restrict the rights and invade the privacy of millions of innocent people?

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695758)

because I produce my own content doesn't mean I should have to police it too.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18695613)

That's "your" interpretation of the law. The law clearly states, the "government" has the right to shut down any site they "think" could be a form of piracy. It isn't a law, but a manipulation by lobbyists paid by companies to control the public.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695764)

Yes you do have to police your own content. You choose to peddle your wares online unprotected.

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18695778)

hmmm, I don't have to police my car, If law enforcement seen someone breaking into it they would arrest and press charges on the person. We need the internet policed, and I'de be happy to pay taxes for that.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18695772)

Here is what I don't understand, especially for US citizens.

They passed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 a few weeks ago, which gives the US government power to arrest US citizens, anywhere in the world, and hold them indefinitely without charge or a trial. There is no due process. You're fucked. But people say, well, if you're not a terrorist you have nothing to worry about.

Yet Americans, nor the mega media giants complained.

However, you pass a law that can give them the right to shut your website down, and everyone is having conniptions over it, as if it's the end of the world. Yet people say, if you're not a pirate, you don't have anything to worry about.

Where was the Google blackout when the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 was passed? Where were all the Americans freaking out and posting shit on every website they can post on? Where was the corporate media on this?

People / corporations have their priorities WAY fucking backwards.

I hope you all get detained forever but get to keep your websites. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18695772)

Yet Americans, nor the mega media giants complained. People / corporations have their priorities WAY fucking backwards. I hope you all get detained forever but get to keep your websites. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695783)

The car thief would still be allowed to prove his innocence, this law takes away that right.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18695847)

But if he stole the car, he is not innocent. There is nothing to prove, other then the car thief trying to lie his way out of the situation.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18695772)

Here is what I don't understand, especially for US citizens.

They passed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 a few weeks ago, which gives the US government power to arrest US citizens, anywhere in the world, and hold them indefinitely without charge or a trial. There is no due process. You're fucked. But people say, well, if you're not a terrorist you have nothing to worry about.

Yet Americans, nor the mega media giants complained.

However, you pass a law that can give them the right to shut your website down, and everyone is having conniptions over it, as if it's the end of the world. Yet people say, if you're not a pirate, you don't have anything to worry about.

Where was the Google blackout when the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 was passed? Where were all the Americans freaking out and posting shit on every website they can post on? Where was the corporate media on this?

People / corporations have their priorities WAY fucking backwards.

I hope you all get detained forever but get to keep your websites. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18695622)

Do you people realize that if these laws pass it will allow your ISP to continually do "deep packet inspection" on your connection at all times?

That means they can essentially and legally keep track of everything that you do and give that data to whomever is authorize by the law to have it... aka the US government.

And all this WITHOUT A COURT ORDER.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18695968)

ISP's could 'choose' to do this now if they felt like it. However, most prefer to play Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heros. There is nothing to prevent an ISP from running scans on your websites/files/domains to see if you are running anything illegal and terminate you accordingly.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18695772)

Here is what I don't understand, especially for US citizens.

They passed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 a few weeks ago, which gives the US government power to arrest US citizens, anywhere in the world, and hold them indefinitely without charge or a trial. There is no due process. You're fucked. But people say, well, if you're not a terrorist you have nothing to worry about.

Yet Americans, nor the mega media giants complained.

However, you pass a law that can give them the right to shut your website down, and everyone is having conniptions over it, as if it's the end of the world. Yet people say, if you're not a pirate, you don't have anything to worry about.

Where was the Google blackout when the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 was passed? Where were all the Americans freaking out and posting shit on every website they can post on? Where was the corporate media on this?

People / corporations have their priorities WAY fucking backwards.

I hope you all get detained forever but get to keep your websites. :upsidedow