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baddog 02-16-2012 11:08 PM

7th grade math question. Help please
 
7th grade math bites!
3 picnickers came upon a pile of watermelons. The first picnicker took half of all the watermelons plus a half of a watermelon. The second picnicker took half of what was left plus a half of a watermelon. The third picnicker took half of what was left plus a half a watermelon. There were 15 watermelons left. How many watermelons were in the original pile?

122.5?

RyuLion 02-16-2012 11:15 PM

Borked FTWW!!

FlexxAeon 02-16-2012 11:24 PM

63

and "fuck you", in advance :1orglaugh

Shoehorn! 02-16-2012 11:25 PM

Seven. :2 cents:

RyuLion 02-16-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18764680)
63

and "fuck you", in advance :1orglaugh

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:1orglaugh

EddyTheDog 02-16-2012 11:26 PM

125......

asdasd 02-16-2012 11:27 PM

I'm not reading that brainwashed shit.

Shotsie 02-16-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18764680)
63

and "fuck you", in advance :1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/OdkDx.jpg

How did you come up with that number?

EddyTheDog 02-16-2012 11:32 PM

125/2 - .5 = 62

62/2 - .5 = 30.5

30/2 - .5 = 15

I think

bean-aid 02-16-2012 11:33 PM

shit... need to start again

FlexxAeon 02-16-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18764695)
How did you come up with that number?

math, bitch :1orglaugh

FlexxAeon 02-16-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18764715)
math, bitch :1orglaugh

15 = ((x/2 - 0.5) / 2) - 0.5

bean-aid 02-16-2012 11:42 PM

ahhh... too late for me

d-null 02-16-2012 11:45 PM

127 watermelons

Matyko 02-16-2012 11:47 PM

127 is the correct answer, it took me like 10 minutes in the morning before coffee... :P

EddyTheDog 02-16-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18764729)
127 watermelons

Yep - It is 127 not 125....

_Richard_ 02-16-2012 11:59 PM

123 err 127 gaa

8char

baddog 02-17-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 18764734)
127 is the correct answer, it took me like 10 minutes in the morning before coffee... :P

127 seems to be the new answer they are coming up with as well, can you show your math?

I proved it is right, I just don't know how you got there.

FlexxAeon 02-17-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18764720)
15 = ((x/2 - 0.5) / 2) - 0.5

:1orglaugh bleh i rushed

15 = ((((x/2 - 0.5) / 2) - 0.5 ) / 2) - 0.5

127

martinsc 02-17-2012 12:03 AM

how big are the melons?

Matyko 02-17-2012 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18764757)
127 seems to be the new answer they are coming up with as well, can you show your math?

I admit I tried to make it the usual way of math but I failed with that. Then I just did the plain pen and paper solution starting from backwards: to have 15 left I need 31 watermelons, so when the half of it is gone, minus a half 15 will remain. 31 is double the 15 plus one. tested this for the next level and it worked: double 31 plus one: 63 is next level. counted back: worked. 63x2 + 1 = 127 for the last level, counted back, worked, tadaaam! :) I know it might sound stupid.. :P :pimp

baddog 02-17-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 18764777)
I admit I tried to make it the usual way of math but I failed with that. Then I just did the plain pen and paper solution starting from backwards: to have 15 left I need 31 watermelons, so when the half of it is gone, minus a half 15 will remain. 31 is double the 15 plus one. tested this for the next level and it worked: double 31 plus one: 63 is next level. counted back: worked. 63x2 + 1 = 127 for the last level, counted back, worked, tadaaam! :) I know it might sound stupid.. :P :pimp

Actually, that is how I was trying to do it to, but I was pretty sure the teacher was not going to accept that explanation. :1orglaugh

raymor 02-17-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 18764777)
I admit I tried to make it the usual way of math but I failed with that. Then I just did the plain pen and paper solution starting from backwards: to have 15 left I need 31 watermelons, so when the half of it is gone, minus a half 15 will remain. 31 is double the 15 plus one. tested this for the next level and it worked: double 31 plus one: 63 is next level. counted back: worked. 63x2 + 1 = 127 for the last level, counted back, worked, tadaaam! :) I know it might sound stupid.. :P :pimp

That's how I would do it. Though I COULD do it forwards in my head, I think, I'm always up for cheating by doing it backwards.

bean-aid 02-17-2012 12:22 AM

From the beginning

Z = total watermelons

student 1 = a
student 2 = b
student 3 = c

a has .5Z + .5
b has .5a + .5
c has .5b + .5
c has 15
b = 29
a = 57
z = 113

113 total...

damn... that's wrong again... lol

Matyko 02-17-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18764784)
Actually, that is how I was trying to do it to, but I was pretty sure the teacher was not going to accept that explanation. :1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U#t=2m47s

EddyTheDog 02-17-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18764788)
That's how I would do it. Though I COULD do it forwards in my head, I think, I'm always up for cheating by doing it backwards.

Is doing it backwards cheating?

Shotsie 02-17-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18764789)
From the beginning

Z = total watermelons

student 1 = a
student 2 = b
student 3 = c

a has .5Z + .5
b has .5a + .5
c has .5b + .5
c has 15
b = 29
a = 57
z = 113

113 total...

http://i.imgur.com/OGbvv.jpg

EddyTheDog 02-17-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18764799)


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

baddog 02-17-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18764789)
From the beginning

Z = total watermelons

student 1 = a
student 2 = b
student 3 = c

a has .5Z + .5
b has .5a + .5
c has .5b + .5
c has 15
b = 29
a = 57
z = 113

113 total...

You are forgetting that there are 15 left over, not the 3rd kid got 15. With 113 b = 28.5

bean-aid 02-17-2012 12:32 AM

a = z*.5 -.5 (what is left)
b = a*.5 -.5 (what is left)
c = b*.5 -.5 (what is left)
c = 15
b=31
a=63
z=127

d-null 02-17-2012 12:32 AM

x= total watermelons
a= first person
b= second person
c= third person

x-a-b-c=15
a=0.5x+0.5
b=(x-a)*0.5+0.5
c=(x-a-b)*0.5+0.5

127 watermelons

bean-aid 02-17-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18764799)

yup... lol.

I got it at the end... :thumbsup

epitome 02-17-2012 12:39 AM

I just ate a quarter of a watermelon.

Time to start over.

_Richard_ 02-17-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18764799)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bean-aid 02-17-2012 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18764820)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Don't be mean... this is what I enjoy on a thirsty thursday :( A good math question to put sparks in the brain :)

KRosh 02-17-2012 01:12 AM

x=x/2 - 1/2


Transform to Algebra..B represents before the watermelons were taken and A represents after they are taken

B/2 - 1/2 = A.

solve for B
2*A + 1 = B.


Now work backwards...

Value of x:15

2*15+1=31

2*32+1=63

2*63+1=127

Answer = 127
:upsidedow

baddog 02-17-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh (Post 18764866)
x=x/2 - 1/2


Transform to Algebra..B represents before the watermelons were taken and A represents after they are taken

B/2 - 1/2 = A.

solve for B
2*A + 1 = B.


Now work backwards...

Value of x:15

2*15+1=31

2*32+1=63

2*63+1=127

Answer = 127
:upsidedow

I will just call you the next time.

Double trouble 02-17-2012 01:28 AM

41 ? :1orglaugh

Deej 02-17-2012 01:36 AM

its that damned half a melon each time that most dont consider not being a portion of the half...

Adraco 02-17-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 18764777)
I admit I tried to make it the usual way of math but I failed with that. Then I just did the plain pen and paper solution starting from backwards: to have 15 left I need 31 watermelons, so when the half of it is gone, minus a half 15 will remain. 31 is double the 15 plus one. tested this for the next level and it worked: double 31 plus one: 63 is next level. counted back: worked. 63x2 + 1 = 127 for the last level, counted back, worked, tadaaam! :) I know it might sound stupid.. :P :pimp

This is how I did too, 127 is correct.

OY 02-17-2012 03:36 AM

Thanks Baddog - this just reminded me on what year my math grade began to deteriorate. Pretty much exactly in 7th grade.....

RazorSharpe 02-17-2012 04:59 AM

erm - it can't possibly be 127, can it? 3 people took 1/2 a watermelon so there has to be a half left over but what is left over is 15 FULL watermelons!!

EddyTheDog 02-17-2012 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 18765116)
erm - it can't possibly be 127, can it? 3 people took 1/2 a watermelon so there has to be a half left over but what is left over is 15 FULL watermelons!!

It works out.

127/2 = 63.5

63.5 - 0.5 = 63

63/2 = 31.5

31.5 - 0.5 = 31

31/2 - 15.5

15.5 - 0.5 = 15

DWB 02-17-2012 05:13 AM

I have always been bad with math questions like that. So looks like I'm going back to the 7th grade.

But the questions to ask is, have any of you applied such a question in real life?

RazorSharpe 02-17-2012 05:14 AM

nevermind - silly me! figured it out now!!

Matyko 02-17-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18765132)
I have always been bad with math questions like that. So looks like I'm going back to the 7th grade.

But the questions to ask is, have any of you applied such a question in real life?

I think it doesn't really matter and obviously there's no use of such knowledge in real life, but this actually can make a kid Think and use his or her logic, which is not bad.

L-Pink 02-17-2012 07:15 AM

You really need to start dating older women that don't have homework.

.

DEA 02-17-2012 07:28 AM

fuck math...lets eat watermelon :)


raymor 02-17-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 18765269)
I think it doesn't really matter and obviously there's no use of such knowledge in real life, but this actually can make a kid Think and use his or her logic, which is not bad.


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_Richard_ 02-17-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18764846)
Don't be mean... this is what I enjoy on a thirsty thursday :( A good math question to put sparks in the brain :)

hey i fucked up too, forgot to take away the last half a watermelon

that's a funny picture.. come on..


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