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wonton 02-07-2003 02:57 PM

British Intelligence Report on Iraq plagarized from a Student !!
 
British Channel 4 Reports....


- News of Bogus UK Intelligence Report Sweeping the Planet

- Blair Government Facing Imminent Crisis

- Revelation May Speed Up Iraqi Invasion

Britain's Intelligence Dossier on Iraq
was Plagiarized from a Grad Student

by Michael C. Ruppert

Feb. 6, 2003, 2230 hrs, PST, (FTW) - A story is sweeping the world tonight and it says a great deal about those who are forcing the world into a war it does not want. The famed dossier presented by British Prime Minister Tony Blair to his Parliament was plagiarized from two articles and a September 2002 research paper submitted by a graduate student. Worse, the Iraq described by the graduate student is not the Iraq of 2003 but the Iraq of 1991. So glaring was the theft of intellectual property that the official British document even cut and pasted whole verbatim segments of the research paper, including grammatical errors, and presented the findings as the result of intense work by British intelligence services.

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell both praised and quoted that same British report in his presentation at the United Nations yesterday.

It is important that readers see and understand the enormity of this violation of public trust for themselves. The story was first broken by Britain's Channel 4 today and it is appearing in more papers and web sites by the hour. The following links lead directly to the Channel 4 story, to the British "intelligence" report and to the original student paper.

What was also disclosed was that certain portions of the academic report were altered by the PM Tony Blair to make them more inflammatory. In one cited instance Blair changed "aiding opposition groups" to "supporting terrorists."

The Channel 4 story is at:
http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z/...6/dossier.html

The Official UK intelligence report is at:
http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page7111.asp

The original student research paper is located at: http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2002/issue3/jv6n3a1.html

In the context of merely preventing or slowing a war with Iraq this would be earth shattering news. But in a world that is slowly beginning to feel the pressure of and admit the reality of dwindling global oil supplies the fallout from the story may actually accelerate hostilities. British Prime Minister Tony Blair will be, by tomorrow, facing monumental challenges in both Parliament and from British public opinion that is overwhelmingly opposed to an Iraqi invasion. The event could be enough to topple his government and cause new elections which might well result in a new government that is not mind-melded with the Bush administration.

The Bush administration, faced with its own embarrassment over the issue, cannot wage a successful war without England. The first thought that came to my mind when I saw the story was that George W. Bush must pre-empt this story and make it moot to save not only Blair but himself as well. The only way to do that is to have the war begin before the justified outrage of the electorate which has been treated with utter contempt can make itself felt.

I noticed tonight that the Associated Press and Yahoo news had reported that the 101st Air Assault Division based at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky - the Army's premier "door kickers" - had been given their deployment orders for the Gulf this afternoon. As I have previously reported, the 101st, along with units like the 75th Rangers can be deployed and operational within 96 hours, anywhere in the world. When the 101st heads out you know the war is going to start very soon.

These are incredibly dangerous times, made more so because there is no turning back for the Bush administration. This story is incredible proof of the cynicism, dishonesty and callousness of the tyrants pushing the world toward destruction. And Iraq is merely the first stop on a sequential plan for control of the last remaining oil reserves on the planet. I encourage all who read the information contained in these links to spread it far and wide and also, by whatever means at their disposal, to tell the mainstream press, members of congress and the White House itself that we will not follow; we will not obey; and we will not kill on the orders of those who lie to us and who demonstrate the integrity of thieves and intellectual cowards.

This might be our last chance before the bombs start falling, before young American men and many innocent Iraqi civilians are reduced to blood and ash.

wonton 02-07-2003 03:11 PM

I said it before and I will say it again...


THIS WAR IS A FUCKING SCAM!!!

:BangBang:

rooster 02-07-2003 03:21 PM

fuck you

wonton 02-07-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
fuck you
No...... fuck YOU!!!

How's that for a witty comeback?

:Graucho

rooster 02-07-2003 03:30 PM

So what exactly do you propose as alternative? Leave Saadam alone. Let him build an aresenal of nukes and furthur his chemical and biologial weapons progams. Continue to let his people starve and live in fear of his brutal reign. As well as being a friend of terroists.

Is this what you rather have? And dont give some bullshit about giving inspectors more time. They would run around the country for years playing a game of hide and seek.

detoxed 02-07-2003 03:35 PM

cocksucking iraqi sluts, coming soon to GFY

wonton 02-07-2003 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
So what exactly do you propose as alternative? Leave Saadam alone. Let him build an aresenal of nukes and furthur his chemical and biologial weapons progams. Continue to let his people starve and live in fear of his brutal reign. As well as being a friend of terroists.

Is this what you rather have? And dont give some bullshit about giving inspectors more time. They would run around the country for years playing a game of hide and seek.

No that's not what I would rather have. But how do you know he is trying to build any of that shit if the very "intelligence reports" we get from the government are written in crayon by fucking sixth graders and international inspectors haven't found ANY evidence that Saddam has WMDs.

Clearly this war has alterior motives other than WMD. That alterior motive is OIL and only OIL. There is a reason it is called black gold.

Rich 02-07-2003 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


No that's not what I would rather have. But how do you know he is trying to build any of that shit if the very "intelligence reports" we get from the government are written in crayon by fucking sixth graders and international inspectors haven't found ANY evidence that Saddam has WMDs.

Clearly this war has alterior motives other than WMD. That alterior motive is OIL and only OIL. There is a reason it is called black gold.

This comment shows how ignorant you really are, no matter how much you try to look like you're smarter than everyone. Right, the only reason they want a war is oil, right. The fact that a crazy lunatic who hates America hiding weapons of mass destruction shouldn't make anyone worry. Are you saying those satelite pictures were drawn in crayon? Wake up you tree hugging faggot, the war has to happen. It's ignorant people like you who expect to be protected then cry about having to go to war who are the biggest reason the USA is vulnerable to terrorists.

Captain Evil 02-07-2003 03:44 PM

Oil isn't that important. It's about establishing a pro-western basis of power in the middle east.

woodman 02-07-2003 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


No that's not what I would rather have. But how do you know he is trying to build any of that shit if the very "intelligence reports" we get from the government are written in crayon by fucking sixth graders and international inspectors haven't found ANY evidence that Saddam has WMDs.

Clearly this war has alterior motives other than WMD. That alterior motive is OIL and only OIL. There is a reason it is called black gold.

Why didn't SR. take over the oil 12 years ago when we were putting out the fires after Saddam torched them? We had control of the fields then if we wanted it.

Mark 02-07-2003 03:47 PM

They're not called British Intelligence for nothing ya know! Those spymasters are smart - did you really expect them to send spies over to iraq?! Its dangerous over there!! :thumbsup

Rich 02-07-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodman


Why didn't SR. take over the oil 12 years ago when we were putting out the fires after Saddam torched them? We had control of the fields then if we wanted it.

Exactly, the people who cry the oil defense are sad. They might want to actually research that before they talk, they should realize that most of the USA's oil comes from Canada, and they don't have to support an evil dictator or terrorists to get it. Just an ugly French man with a speech impediment.

Paul Markham 02-07-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
So what exactly do you propose as alternative? Leave Saadam alone. Let him build an aresenal of nukes and furthur his chemical and biologial weapons progams. Continue to let his people starve and live in fear of his brutal reign. As well as being a friend of terroists.

Is this what you rather have? And dont give some bullshit about giving inspectors more time. They would run around the country for years playing a game of hide and seek.

While he was anti Iran all the above counted for nothing. Yes leave him alone. What he is not, is a fool stupid enough to use the weapons.

Now Kim on the other hand is MAD and who knows what he might do?

wonton 02-07-2003 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


This comment shows how ignorant you really are, no matter how much you try to look like you're smarter than everyone. Right, the only reason they want a war is oil, right. The fact that a crazy lunatic who hates America hiding weapons of mass destruction shouldn't make anyone worry. Are you saying those satelite pictures were drawn in crayon? Wake up you tree hugging faggot, the war has to happen. It's ignorant people like you who expect to be protected then cry about having to go to war who are the biggest reason the USA is vulnerable to terrorists.

Satellite pictures of what? Some bunkers in the desert? You believe those bunkers contain WMD because Colin Powell says so? Powell also praised this very British report, in front of the UN Security Council. The same report that was plagarized by some student. You believe everything that comes out of his mouth?

You think the US government (or any government) has never fabricated evidence and doled out propaganda before to achieve its ends? I am afraid you are EXTREMELY naive.

And the reason we are vulnerable to terrorists is exactly because of this hegemonic behavior.

FATPad 02-07-2003 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
What he is not, is a fool stupid enough to use the weapons.


What weapons? I thought Saddam didn't have any weapons? :)

Rich 02-07-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


Satellite pictures of what? Some bunkers in the desert? You believe those bunkers contain WMD because Colin Powell says so? Powell also praised this very British report, in front of the UN Security Council. The same report that was plagarized by some student. You believe everything that comes out of his mouth?

You think the US government (or any government) has never fabricated evidence and doled out propaganda before to achieve its ends? I am afraid you are EXTREMELY naive.

And the reason we are vulnerable to terrorists is exactly because of this hegemonic behavior.

No you're right, they have anti contamination trucks outside those facilities when the UN inspectors AREN'T there, just for fun. :thumbsup

.:Frog:. 02-07-2003 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton
I said it before and I will say it again...


THIS WAR IS A FUCKING SCAM!!!

:BangBang:

I agree.

wonton 02-07-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


Exactly, the people who cry the oil defense are sad. They might want to actually research that before they talk, they should realize that most of the USA's oil comes from Canada, and they don't have to support an evil dictator or terrorists to get it. Just an ugly French man with a speech impediment.

Another moron who just spouts something off the top of his head without doing any research. Most of US oil imports DO NOT come from Canada. The largest source is Saudi Arabia

US Crude Oil IImports by Country

Once the US takes over Iraq, that country will jump to #1:

Imports of Crude Oil into the United States
by Country of Origin, 2001
Country of Origin Thousand Barrels
1 Saudi Arabia 588,075
2 Mexico 508,715
3 Canada 494,796
4 Venezuela 471,243
5 Nigeria 307,173
6 Iraq 289,998
7 Angola 117,254
8 Norway 102,724
9 Colombia 94,844
10 United Kingdom 89,142
11 Kuwait 86,535
12 Gabon 51,065
13 Ecuador 41,403
14 Argentina 21,013
15 Trinidad and Tobago 18,562
16 Other 15,874
17 Indonesia 14,759
18 Congo (Brazzaville) 14,430
19 Australia 12,567
20 Yemen 8,702
21 Brunei 8,174
22 United Arab Emirates 7,802
23 Oman 7,138
24 Guatemala 6,485
25 Malaysia 5,643
26 China, People?s Republic of 4,684
27 Brazil 4,667
28 Algeria 3,966
29 Peru 2,524
30 Thailand 1,751
31 Ivory Coast 1,517
32 Cameroon 1,255
33 Congo (Kinshasa) * 345
34 Qatar 69
Total 3,404,894
Non OPEC 1,635,274
Arab OPEC 976,445
Other OPEC 793,175

drew 02-07-2003 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
I see nothing changed with Massivecock, well, other than new nickname:1orglaugh

wonton 02-07-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


No you're right, they have anti contamination trucks outside those facilities when the UN inspectors AREN'T there, just for fun. :thumbsup

Really? And you know these are anti-contamination trucks because you are an expert in anti-contamination trucks? Or are you relying on the fact that Colin Powell said they are anti-contamination trucks? He is the same guy who praises a UK intelligence report that was written by some kid cramming for his exams.

Yeah you're right.

:thumbsup

Rich 02-07-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


Really? And you know these are anti-contamination trucks because you are an expert in anti-contamination trucks? Or are you relying on the fact that Colin Powell said they are anti-contamination trucks? He is the same guy who praises a UK intelligence report that was written by some kid cramming for his exams.

Yeah you're right.

:thumbsup

lol, yeah you're right Massivecock, we should just let Sadaam assemble an aresonal of WMD, and while we're at it, we'll let North Korea help them out. Perfect. Man it would've been funny to listen to you arround WWII, "guys leave Hitler alone, there's no 100% proof he's trying to take over the world, just give it more time". You're with us or against us pussy, grow a pair or shut your mouth.

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


Another moron who just spouts something off the top of his head without doing any research. Most of US oil imports DO NOT come from Canada. The largest source is Saudi Arabia

US Crude Oil IImports by Country

Once the US takes over Iraq, that country will jump to #1:

Imports of Crude Oil into the United States
by Country of Origin, 2001
Country of Origin Thousand Barrels
1 Saudi Arabia 588,075
2 Mexico 508,715
3 Canada 494,796
4 Venezuela 471,243
5 Nigeria 307,173
6 Iraq 289,998
7 Angola 117,254
8 Norway 102,724
9 Colombia 94,844
10 United Kingdom 89,142
11 Kuwait 86,535
12 Gabon 51,065
13 Ecuador 41,403
14 Argentina 21,013
15 Trinidad and Tobago 18,562
16 Other 15,874
17 Indonesia 14,759
18 Congo (Brazzaville) 14,430
19 Australia 12,567
20 Yemen 8,702
21 Brunei 8,174
22 United Arab Emirates 7,802
23 Oman 7,138
24 Guatemala 6,485
25 Malaysia 5,643
26 China, People?s Republic of 4,684
27 Brazil 4,667
28 Algeria 3,966
29 Peru 2,524
30 Thailand 1,751
31 Ivory Coast 1,517
32 Cameroon 1,255
33 Congo (Kinshasa) * 345
34 Qatar 69
Total 3,404,894
Non OPEC 1,635,274
Arab OPEC 976,445
Other OPEC 793,175

damn, you're right. what are we doing in iraq? let's take over saudi arabia, then canada, then mexico. then let's get venezuela and nigeria, THEN go after saddam. yeah!

:thumbsup

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:14 PM

you also have to take into consideration that the report was handed to powell supposedly as credible from the british. i'd go out on a limb that says we'd trust them there, what reason would we think it not credible? attacking powell on this i think is rather moot.

wonton 02-07-2003 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


lol, yeah you're right Massivecock, we should just let Sadaam assemble an aresonal of WMD, and while we're at it, we'll let North Korea help them out. Perfect. Man it would've been funny to listen to you arround WWII, "guys leave Hitler alone, there's no 100% proof he's trying to take over the world, just give it more time". You're with us or against us pussy, grow a pair or shut your mouth.

Hitler was a threat to democracy and needed to be fought.

Saddam is a threat to OTHER ARAB DICTATORS. So whoopie shit. Let them fight it out amongst themselves. When was the last time Iraq attacked the US? Iraq is not a threat to us and never has been. On the other hand, we've been bombing their territory almost daily since 1991.

And a little history lesson for the ignorant...Kuwait WAS a province of Iraq that was partitioned from Iraq by the British. Now that does not by any means excuse Iraq's invasion of that country in 1991. But it does underscore the fact that said invasion (of one arab dictator over another) was a REGIONAL conflict.


And unless you are personally volunteering to go on the front lines, then talking tough about war is just cowardly bullshit. If you really have a pair then you speak up for those that will uncessarily put their lives at risk on the front lines.

wonton 02-07-2003 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409


damn, you're right. what are we doing in iraq? let's take over saudi arabia, then canada, then mexico. then let's get venezuela and nigeria, THEN go after saddam. yeah!

:thumbsup

You're not far off course. Mark my words... the US will take over Iran and Saudi Arabia after Iraq and will also make a push into Venezuala. The groundwork has already been laid for that. This will all come down over the next ten years.

lEricPl 02-07-2003 04:18 PM

By 2007 we will all be dead.

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


You're not far off course. Mark my words... the US will take over Iran and Saudi Arabia after Iraq and will also make a push into Venezuala. The groundwork has already been laid for that. This will all come down over the next ten years.


hrm, where's the attack plans for venezuela, if you would?

wonton 02-07-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409
you also have to take into consideration that the report was handed to powell supposedly as credible from the british. i'd go out on a limb that says we'd trust them there, what reason would we think it not credible? attacking powell on this i think is rather moot.
British and US intelligence have very intimate ties. They communicate constantly and share information at every conceivable level. Powell and the whole Bush gang sits on top of the most sophisiticated intelligence appartus in the history of the world, with a budget (conservatively estimated) of $60 billion a year. They would know if a British intelligence report was copied from a student's term paper!!

They just don't care at this point, that's all. They have been getting away with this type of shit for decades. They know the American people don't read. They know the American people believe everything they see on TV. They are so used to getting what they want that now they are barely even trying. It's all a very sad and very sick joke.

JeremySF 02-07-2003 04:24 PM

Oh, gimme break....are you telling me you never "borrowed" any material for a term paper in college? :-) What's the big deal? It's not like they got a Pulitzer prize for the piece... lol

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton
British Channel 4 Reports....


- News of Bogus UK Intelligence Report Sweeping the Planet

- Blair Government Facing Imminent Crisis

- Revelation May Speed Up Iraqi Invasion

Britain's Intelligence Dossier on Iraq
was Plagiarized from a Grad Student

by Michael C. Ruppert




Rich 02-07-2003 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


You're not far off course. Mark my words... the US will take over Iran and Saudi Arabia after Iraq and will also make a push into Venezuala. The groundwork has already been laid for that. This will all come down over the next ten years.

I hope to God they go after Saudi Arabia after, then Iran. I sure as shit doubt we'll ever see a war with Venezuala, that's just pure bullshit propoganda. How many of the 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia? 16 or 19, something like that.

See we can sit back and let them fight themselves all day, but the fact is these people hate America, and as soon as they think they can do damage, they'll do it. Don't kid yourself, or anyone else.

lEricPl 02-07-2003 04:25 PM

wonton said:
Quote:

British and US intelligence have very intimate ties. They communicate constantly and share information at every conceivable level.

Holy Shit!

This dude must be in the CIA or somethin!

:helpme

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:27 PM

there's some merit in saudi arabia, it's rumor at least that a lot of very, very wealthy saudis like to pump money into terrorist groups, the difficulty with that is it's not really saudi's policy, it's their inhabitants. saddam is very overtly against the us, as a state.

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


British and US intelligence have very intimate ties. They communicate constantly and share information at every conceivable level. Powell and the whole Bush gang sits on top of the most sophisiticated intelligence appartus in the history of the world, with a budget (conservatively estimated) of $60 billion a year. They would know if a British intelligence report was copied from a student's term paper!!

They just don't care at this point, that's all. They have been getting away with this type of shit for decades. They know the American people don't read. They know the American people believe everything they see on TV. They are so used to getting what they want that now they are barely even trying. It's all a very sad and very sick joke.

again, you need proof, as do i. where and what are they getting away with for decades? and to your comment of tv, i don't watch it. so hence, how could i believe everything i see?

wonton 02-07-2003 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409



hrm, where's the attack plans for venezuela, if you would?

Do some research on the net (on the government's own websites) and look for special forces deployments around the world as well as the activities of private defense contractors by geographic region. The activities of these entities always preceed military activity by a few years. Read books written by former military people and former high-ranking US government officials. Read the journal from the Council on Foreign Relations. Read the reports by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Intelligence Committees. Read 'em all and you get the info straight from the horse's mouth. They are not shy about laying out their plans because they know that the AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T READ!!! They know that only the people who will read this stuff are the people that need to know - i.e. those in the military industrial establishment and people that they will conveniently label "conspiracy nuts" or "ivory-tower intellectuals".

woodman 02-07-2003 04:30 PM

Wonton, at least be thankful you have the freedom to express your opinion, however paraniod they may be, without fear of torture or your family getting killed.

OneHungLo 02-07-2003 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


No that's not what I would rather have. But how do you know he is trying to build any of that shit if the very "intelligence reports" we get from the government are written in crayon by fucking sixth graders and international inspectors haven't found ANY evidence that Saddam has WMDs.

Clearly this war has alterior motives other than WMD. That alterior motive is OIL and only OIL. There is a reason it is called black gold.

OIL? you know how much money it will cost to rebuild that country? Fuck do you know how much this war will cost the US? In the fucking hundreds of billions of dollars and besides do you think that we will beable to go in there and claim all that oil for ourselves???

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:35 PM

ok, well, i'll see what i can find. but in other regards, if the US is such an empirical nation as you insinuate, then why wouldn't we already have done this? gone gallavanting around the world, swooping up all that was interest to us, instead of waiting decades to do so? what would be the point of waiting, especially if we have all this military already in place?

look at the british, they did it, a long time ago, and it was no big deal then. so why should we wait?

wonton 02-07-2003 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodman
Wonton, at least be thankful you have the freedom to express your opinion, however paraniod they may be, without fear of torture or your family getting killed.
I sure as hell am thankful and I want to keep those freedoms. I do not take these freedoms for granted. I fully realize that these freedoms can be taken from me and my fellow citizens just as they have been in many socities before our own. History is cyclical. And the lesson from history is that tyranny is the NORM not the exception. And I see tyranny just around the corner.

The writing is on the wall...it will be a facist police state here in the US and a corporate empire outside the US. This is not paranoid delusion. The signs are everywhere.

"Those who give up their liberties in exchange for temporary security deserve neither"

drew 02-07-2003 04:39 PM

Massivecock, why dont you shut up? Your conspiracy
theories are pathetic. Just stay in your Alberta and dont worry, we will not invade Canada to take over your oil, MORON

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:40 PM

hrm... maybe. but look what happened the first time someone tried to get tyrannical on us :thumbsup

iroc409 02-07-2003 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drew
Massivecock, why dont you shut up? Your conspiracy
theories are pathetic. Just stay in your Alberta and dont worry, we will not invade Canada to take over your oil, MORON

but dude, they have a lot of oil!

wonton 02-07-2003 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409
ok, well, i'll see what i can find. but in other regards, if the US is such an empirical nation as you insinuate, then why wouldn't we already have done this? gone gallavanting around the world, swooping up all that was interest to us, instead of waiting decades to do so? what would be the point of waiting, especially if we have all this military already in place?

look at the british, they did it, a long time ago, and it was no big deal then. so why should we wait?

We have not waited. The British took 150 years or so to build up their empire, since becoming a primary naval power. After WWII, the British empire was all but gone and the US emerged as the strongest nation. That was barely 60 years ago and already the US owns the world economically. We will now go forward to occupy the world geographically, in those key staging points that require geographic occupation. That will take another 20 years at most. So the US will be the ultimate empire in a total of 80 years or so since emerging as the up and coming nation. The US will achieve total and absolute domination of the world faster than any country in history. So we have not waited. We have gone as fast as geo-political conditions would allow.

Now the above would all be fine and dandy if it was just a matter of Americans ruling the world and maintaining all our freedoms at home. But the power elite clearly want to control the rest of the world AND micromanage the lives of Americans as well. They are on a power-mad trip. The future is in jeopardy unless people start to wake up and fight back. We don't need the US constitution and bill of rights eroded AT ALL by any act of congress. I don't care if it is called the "Patriot" act. That is some scary piece of legislation if you actually read it. Homeland Security and Information Awareness are not far behind, depsite their benign sounding titles.

kenny 02-07-2003 04:45 PM

Reguardless what anybody thinks, it is going to happen. The united states will win, and there is nothing that will stop them. So bitch and moan all you want about conspiracy and evil plans. And if the united states makes it a point to conquer another nation after Iraq, nobody will stop them and they will win. So go ahead and defend a dictator and a region that spawns terrorist, your efforts will prove a waste of time. Your point of view will remain unpopular.

directfiesta 02-07-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
fuck you
Still the same....

directfiesta 02-07-2003 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wonton


.

Clearly this war has alterior motives other than WMD. That alterior motive is OIL and only OIL. There is a reason it is called black gold.

For once, I disagree with you. It is a bit for OIL, a lot for DADDY...

woodman 02-07-2003 04:48 PM

France just announced they surrender.

JOH 02-07-2003 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Reguardless what anybody thinks, it is going to happen. The united states will win, and there is nothing that will stop them. So bitch and moan all you want about conspiracy and evil plans. And if the united states makes it a point to conquer another nation after Iraq, nobody will stop them and they will win. So go ahead and defend a dictator and a region that spawns terrorist, your efforts will prove a waste of time. Your point of view will remain unpopular.

kenny, right ,for nothing will stand in the way, for the game is over according to Bush!

directfiesta 02-07-2003 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich


Canada, and they don't have to support an evil dictator or terrorists to get it. Just an ugly French man with a speech impediment.

I don't like Chretien, I think he is as dumb as BUSH . But to attack him on a personnal disability due to illness in his early years just shows and confirms that you are deprived of any kindness and compassion explaining why you zealots and KKK are so in a hurry to go kill " ragheads" .

You are despisable.

wonton 02-07-2003 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta


For once, I disagree with you. It is a bit for OIL, a lot for DADDY...

The Daddy thing is certainly a factor for Bush Jr. or as Daddy Bush calls him....Mini Me.

But the overwhelming reason is oil. Even if Bush was not president and Gore had gotten in, the powers that be in the military-industrial establishment would still be pushing for an invasion of Iraq. With Mini Me as president those plans may have been accelerated by 2 to 3 years due to family ties and the closer link between the administration and corporate oil.

directfiesta 02-07-2003 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF
Oh, gimme break....are you telling me you never "borrowed" any material for a term paper in college? :-) What's the big deal? It's not like they got a Pulitzer prize for the piece... lol


You are a real idiot; I think you even surpass Rich.... When, after borrowing a papere in school, did you launch a massive attack with WMD on a nation.... If this is the extent of your brain activity, please, turn it OFF!


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