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xxxjay 03-07-2012 08:35 AM

Advice for Pornstars 101: Don't let your boyfriend, husband, or some "webmaster" build your site!
 
I would just post the text here, but it would take forever to relink...
http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...-do-your-site/

WarChild 03-07-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18808943)
I would just post the text here, but it would take forever to relink...
http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...-do-your-site/

Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

Fletch XXX 03-07-2012 08:39 AM

hehe nice and so true.

hey jay sent you that email yesterday, jumped through spam arrest just making sure you got it.

xxxjay 03-07-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18808951)
Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

Yeah, I wrote it real fast in a fury of bong glory - if you care to point any out that would be great, once I've re-read my own stuff to many times I con't see the mistakes it just reads like I want to hear it in my head.

Maybe I'm illiterate.

xxxjay 03-07-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18808945)
Good advice.

I've noticed that boyfriends are a huge pain in the ass. Husbands, not so much though, weird...

I've found that as well, but not always true. Boyfriends are usually just clueless and lazy more than husbands. Robbie and Claudia are an exception to this rule - they are great people and work well together. Some of my favorite peeps in the biz.:thumbsup

xxxjay 03-07-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18808951)
Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

Found a few thanks. I need a proof-reader. LOL

GUNNER 03-07-2012 09:11 AM

If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

xxxjay 03-07-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GUNNER (Post 18809028)
If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

:thumbsup

madm1k3 03-07-2012 10:43 AM

Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

xxxjay 03-07-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 18809218)
Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

Quoted for truth. :thumbsup

Bugbee 03-07-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gunner (Post 18809028)
if i had a dollar for every time i hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... And it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) buy porn starlet domain name

2) build shitty tour and members area

3) cash big checks and buy new cars

true true!!

LeRoy 03-07-2012 01:23 PM

Nice post Jay!

Would be cool to have a referral program too or even a finders fee.

xxxjay 03-07-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18809594)
Nice post Jay!

Would be cool to have a referral program too or even a finders fee.

We have one.

Waiter 03-07-2012 02:21 PM

There's no money in porn ... second by now ... who is responsible for that ??? where is the old good days ? :(

Evil Chris 03-07-2012 02:22 PM

I have mad 1990s design skillz

arock10 03-07-2012 02:22 PM

Photographers make some pretty terrible pay sites too sometimes

Tom_PM 03-07-2012 02:23 PM

I voted for learn to do it yourself. Even if you go with a reputable company. Learn to do it yourself.

WarChild 03-07-2012 02:27 PM

Sounds like a pretty good deal all things considered. How many of these girls get themselves in to 50/50 partnerships with suitcase pimps that don't know shit? Probably quite a few. With Jay you're going to get the same percentage deal but work with somebody that has a track record for success.

xxxjay 03-07-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18809776)
Sounds like a pretty good deal all things considered. How many of these girls get themselves in to 50/50 partnerships with suitcase pimps that don't know shit? Probably quite a few. With Jay you're going to get the same percentage deal but work with somebody that has a track record for success.

Trust me, that end of it is a PAIN IN THE ASS and yes, is a constant problem.

:mad:

Jim_Gunn 03-07-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 18809218)
Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

"You're" going to get buried, not "your". And why would you be amazed by that? Many of the experienced program owners and independant webmasters who have been doing online web work for years can't manage to make money with pay sites in 2012. What the hell kind of chance would you think that an eighteen year old newbie porn chick would have trying to make money with her own site?

ottopottomouse 03-07-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18808974)
once I've re-read my own stuff to many times I con't see the mistakes it just reads like I want to hear it in my head.

Maybe I'm illiterate.

Not illiterate, I'm the same with any long piece I write. I know what I meant to say so whatever mistakes there are become invisible.

porno jew 03-07-2012 03:59 PM

read it back to yourself out loud it helps catch mistakes. or read it stoned.

FlexxAeon 03-07-2012 04:12 PM

a little to much salt in that post, pimpin :pimp :pimp

xxxjay 03-07-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 18809795)
"You're" going to get buried, not "your". And why would you be amazed by that? Many of the experienced program owners and independant webmasters who have been doing online web work for years can't manage to make money with pay sites in 2012. What the hell kind of chance would you think that an eighteen year old newbie porn chick would have trying to make money with her own site?

Preach on brotha'! :thumbsup

CourtneyR 03-07-2012 05:29 PM

good advice for the girls! having a boyfriend build your site is probably not a genius idea.

LeRoy 03-07-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18809678)
We have one.

So if we send a girl to you and you make a site for her. you add it to your network, promote her yada yada yada...

Whats the commish or finders fee for bringing you the girl?

xxxjay 03-08-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18810223)
So if we send a girl to you and you make a site for her. you add it to your network, promote her yada yada yada...

Whats the commish or finders fee for bringing you the girl?

We do best with PORNSTARS - the bigger the better.

Paul Markham 03-09-2012 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GUNNER (Post 18809028)
If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

Yes heard this too many times. Even from other shooters and myself who did "deals" with big talkers. I was scammed a few times by people claiming to be playing above their level of what they could achieve. I know a few shooters who also go shaved rotten. I know of a few instances where I got shaved as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18809059)
Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18809059)
Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

:thumbsup

There's another way to look at it.

Why don't Pornstarplatinum.com. Just employ the girl and pay her on the day? Put her under contract for the amount they wave in front of her for her to work on a sharing basis. Lay out in the contract what is expected of her and what they will pay her at the end of each shoot, plus a healthy bonus at the end.

Models are for hire. They go to where the money is. If Pornstarplatinum.com. can't afford to compete with other avenues or pay her enough to keep her turning up for the work, how good are they?

If we found a real winner we knew would make us money, we shot here for all the work we needed, paid her at the end of each day and then let the others try to monetise her.

Pornstarplatinum.com. should do the same if they can't afford it, then they shouldn't be offering these deals.

Think outside the box.

mamaliga 03-09-2012 03:36 AM

Sound decent, thanks for sharing with us.
However sexually harassment is part of the business:winkwink:

Socks 03-09-2012 05:34 AM

CCBill only is bad? Seems to have worked pretty good for Met Art, FTV Girls, Femjoy, and the list goes on...

xxxjay 03-09-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18812945)
CCBill only is bad? Seems to have worked pretty good for Met Art, FTV Girls, Femjoy, and the list goes on...

Not, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying it comes with limitations, including how well you can convert.

All of my programs started as CCBill only programs but we had to evolve.

:2 cents:

LeRoy 03-09-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18812496)
We do best with PORNSTARS - the bigger the better.

So no comish or finders fee?

signupdamnit 03-09-2012 11:14 AM

That's usually good advice but still you are trying to sell them on your services and another piece of advice which also holds true is to be weary of those offering you advice when they are likewise trying to sell you.

seeandsee 03-09-2012 11:56 AM

Always go with a reputable company...

if you don't know what are you doing

Jacob[Soft] 03-09-2012 12:06 PM

Always go with a reputable company...

xxxjay 03-09-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18813590)
So no comish or finders fee?

Email me [email protected]

RyuLion 03-09-2012 12:33 PM

Always go with a reputable company..

livexxx 03-09-2012 06:20 PM

tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

pornmasta 03-10-2012 05:55 AM

pay more, earn less...

ninavain 03-10-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 18814245)
tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

i agree vanity sites are dead...and a hot/decent girl can still make a nice 5-figure month stripping and or escorting.. no photos or videos needed. Most chicks are catching on, hence the turn over rate in LA Porn industry. They go there looking for glam and gold..get fucked hard and strong for 90 days then fade away as the next 18 y/o steps off the bus..but now young chicks are hearing that porn isn't all it's cracked up to be..the money ain't all that, especially if you can lapdance in a dark club and give the occasional hj to a old man w/ money...sure beats getting railed by Mandingo in the ass for the entire world to see for less than a couple of grand

mchacal 03-10-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18808945)
Good advice.

I've noticed that boyfriends are a huge pain in the ass. Husbands, not so much though, weird...

Boyfriends are still obsessed with their gfs while hubbies are already bored of their ladies. That's my theory

xxxjay 03-10-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 18814245)
tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

Could have fooled me www.pornstarplatinum.com grew by over 200% last year while the rest of the biz shrank to nothing.

You own a cams thing, so I can see how you are biased.

babydred 03-10-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18809761)
Photographers make some pretty terrible pay sites too sometimes

lmao...i see what you did there.

xxxjay 03-10-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18814821)
i agree vanity sites are dead...and a hot/decent girl can still make a nice 5-figure month stripping and or escorting.. no photos or videos needed. Most chicks are catching on, hence the turn over rate in LA Porn industry. They go there looking for glam and gold..get fucked hard and strong for 90 days then fade away as the next 18 y/o steps off the bus..but now young chicks are hearing that porn isn't all it's cracked up to be..the money ain't all that, especially if you can lapdance in a dark club and give the occasional hj to a old man w/ money...sure beats getting railed by Mandingo in the ass for the entire world to see for less than a couple of grand

Typical hooker logic.

Or you could look at it like this. We shoot our content make several updates for one shoot. A lot of times, the gilrs don't shoot for 30 days and they still get handed a big fat check that covers all their bills - FOR DOING NOTHING!

:2 cents:

ninavain 03-10-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 18815502)
Typical hooker logic.

Or you could look at it like this. We shoot our content make several updates for one shoot. A lot of times, the gilrs don't shoot for 30 days and they still get handed a big fat check that covers all their bills - FOR DOING NOTHING!

:2 cents:

...bitches don't think about tomorrow's money..

AaronM 03-10-2012 07:04 PM

Jay,

If you are using that site as a sales pitch, you may want to have an editor review it. :2 cents:

xxxjay 03-10-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18815611)
Jay,

If you are using that site as a sales pitch, you may want to have an editor review it. :2 cents:

I wrote it really fast. We have so A-listers coming out in the next few weeks. We don't really need new girls ATM.

xxxjay 03-10-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18815583)
...bitches don't think about tomorrow's money..

Very true.

:thumbsup

Paul Markham 03-11-2012 01:32 AM

I still see no one has countered my point about just paying the girl.

The problem is often the money talked about, doesn't match the money paid out. After the girl has done all the work. :Oh crap

u-Bob 03-11-2012 06:16 AM

50 polls :)


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