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BFT3K 03-09-2012 07:27 PM

Do 9/11 Beliefs Split Via Party Lines?
 
Just wondering...

porno jew 03-09-2012 07:30 PM

9/11 conspiracy theories are generally a trojan horse for extreme right wing belief systems. first they get into 9/11 conspiracies and a couple years later they are into holocaust revisionism and so on.

porno jew 03-09-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814336)
Do you have any government inside knowledge or do you work for the CIA? No.

Ergo, you have ZERO clue as to what happened. Simple logic

wtf are you talking about kook?

raymor 03-09-2012 07:54 PM

The poll questions are a bit skewed. "Question the government's story" - of course we question. Any thinking person questions. That doesn't mean we all get the same answer.

The funny thing is that not everyone questions the conspiracy theories - some blindly believe anything a random blogger claims. For example, the conspiracy nuts claim that thousands of gallons of hyrocarbon fuel can't soften steel. Anyone who has ever worked with steel knows that's absolutely wrong. At even 400° F structural steel is noticeably softer than at 80° F. A few minutes playing with a propane torch or a good campfire and you can see that for yourself.

At 1350F, steel turns to austinite. Jet fuel in an enclosed space burns at about 1900F.

GregE 03-09-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18814329)
9/11 conspiracy theories are generally a trojan horse for extreme right wing belief systems. first they get into 9/11 conspiracies and a couple years later they are into holocaust revisionism and so on.

Some people on the extreme left believe this nonsense too. They usually blame Bush, Cheney, the new world order or some combination thereof.

When you consider that Clinton couldn't even keep an Oval Office blowjob secret, how anyone with half a brain can imagine the government pulling off a bogus 9/11 is something I'll never understand.

Jacob[Soft] 03-09-2012 08:01 PM

I'm a Independent and I do NOT question the government's story.

WarChild 03-09-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814368)
And does that steel completely melt and fall at free fall speed? NO

Your argument is fundamentally flawed. The towers did _NOT_ fall at free fall speed.

See, you can't even get the most basic of facts straight and yet you think you're qualified to come to conclusions. Amazing.

BFT3K 03-09-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18814360)
The poll questions are a bit skewed. "Question the government's story" - of course we question. Any thinking person questions. That doesn't mean we all get the same answer.

It doesn't matter what the specific "conspiracy theory" may be. You either believe the government, or you don't. Once you say you don't, then you question some or all of the government's "facts" and low and behold... you are a truther (ie someone who seeks to find the truth).

I don't see the problem with the poll's wording at all. Same end game. :2 cents:

porno jew 03-09-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18814377)
It doesn't matter what the specific "conspiracy theory" may be. You either believe the government, or you don't. Once you say you don't, then you question some or all of the government's "facts" and low and behold... you are a truther (ie someone who seeks to find the truth).

I don't see the problem with the poll's wording at all. Same end game. :2 cents:

there is a difference between a natural skepticism towards the official narrative and taking on the beliefs that make up the 9/11 conspiracy religion.

porno jew 03-09-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814358)
You are the PUBLIC

The GOVERNMENT does NOT tell you the TRUTH :2 cents:

no shit sherlock.

Rochard 03-09-2012 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814336)
Do you have any government inside knowledge or do you work for the CIA? No.

Ergo, you have ZERO clue as to what happened. Simple logic

LOL. Okay, that was funny.

BFT3K 03-09-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18814383)
there is a difference between a natural skepticism towards the official narrative and taking on the beliefs that make up the 9/11 conspiracy religion.

I don't believe you can lump all "truthers" together. Personally I don't believe missiles were fired into the towers for example, but I do question other aspects of the story.

The physics debates annoy the hell out of me, but some other people will fight tooth-and-nail over those distractions, and that's their thing. No big deal.

porno jew 03-09-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18814390)
I don't believe you can lump all "truthers" together. Personally I don't believe missiles were fired into the towers for example, but I do question other aspects of the story.

The physics debates annoy the hell out of me, but some other people will fight tooth-and-nail over those distractions, and that's their thing. No big deal.

you have to think of it like a religion. sure they have their catholic, protestant and evangelical wings but there are central tenants held by all.

BFT3K 03-09-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18814393)
you have to think of it like a religion. sure they have their catholic, protestant and evangelical wings but there are central tenants held by all.

"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." - Thomas Jefferson

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." - James Madison

"But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed." - John Adams

BFT3K 03-09-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814415)
Believing the government = faith in authority

Maybe so, but surprisingly, 80% of respondents so far, have voted in favor of believing the government's story, lock, stock, and barrel. The mind boggles...

WarChild 03-09-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814420)
It's called propaganda/mind control. It's not that ridiculous at all when you look at it from a certain perspective. I mean just a few hundred years ago people thought the earth was round and you were "crazy" for thinking otherwise. Mind control is a wonderful thing :2 cents:

The Earth is round, Einstein. :1orglaugh

GregE 03-09-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814371)
How did the 19 islamis hijackers keep it a secret? Wouldn't SOMEONE leak it and come forward?

Trusting zealots - who have already consented to give up their owns lives - to keep their mouths shut seems quite plausible to me.

porno jew 03-09-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18814420)
I mean just a few hundred years ago people thought the earth was round and you were "crazy" for thinking otherwise.

:1orglaugh .....

TisMe 03-09-2012 08:59 PM

More along IQ lines.

xholly 03-09-2012 10:00 PM

poll is totally flawed. rejecting conspiracy theory does not equal not questioning the government and is a major flaw in thinking on behalf of the so called truthers.

didnt vote since there is no option that suits me, I question the government and I question the truthers and I have found the truthers stance to be the one that doesn't add up.

no doubt 911 has been exploited by government for all sorts of things.

BFT3K 03-09-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18814461)
poll is totally flawed. rejecting conspiracy theory does not equal not questioning the government and is a major flaw in thinking on behalf of the so called truthers.

didnt vote since there is no option that suits me, I question the government and I question the truthers and I have found the truthers stance to be the one that doesn't add up.

no doubt 911 has been exploited by government for all sorts of things.

I can't help it if a number of you are too embarrassed to classify yourselves as truthers.

It is what it is.

raymor 03-09-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18814383)
there is a difference between a natural skepticism towards the official narrative and taking on the beliefs that make up the 9/11 conspiracy religion.


Damn it PJ you're making more and more sense.

xholly 03-10-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18814493)
I can't help it if a number of you are too embarrassed to classify yourselves as truthers.

It is what it is.

Im sorry your mind is too limited to see the options available that you need to group people such.. I understand it is always simpler to see things in black and white.

RRACY 03-10-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18814329)
9/11 conspiracy theories are generally a trojan horse for extreme right wing belief systems. first they get into 9/11 conspiracies and a couple years later they are into holocaust revisionism and so on.

The 9/11 government conspiracy theory is exactly for the extremely ignorant masses.

asdasd 03-10-2012 09:01 AM

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This is Michael Douglas, no conspiracy here.

BFT3K 03-10-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18814771)
Im sorry your mind is too limited to see the options available that you need to group people such.. I understand it is always simpler to see things in black and white.

Okay, what is the wording for the poll option you would have preferred? Define the succinct distinction for me.

BFT3K 03-10-2012 12:11 PM



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