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ePayments 04-04-2012 11:54 PM

New ePayments Association to Address High Cost of Paying Commissions and Affiliates
 
Hi everyone!

My name is Mike and I am the President of the Electronic Payments Association. We are the Association of online marketers that has been established to help the ecommerce community to make and receive payments faster, safer and cheaper.

Electronic Payments Association (EPA) is a true membership organisation registered in the United Kingdom and governed by English Law.

Members of EPA can make and receive payments to/from each other ABSOLUTELY FREE. Furthermore, all members are issued with a FREE ePayments Prepaid Card to access their funds.

To find out more, please join us at www.epayments.com

First members to join EPA don't PAY the JOINING FEE (Offer is limited and may be terminated at any time).

Just click here: http://www.epayments.com/?i=GFY

EPA team welcomes you and are happy to answer any questions you might have.

Kind regards,
Mike Rymanov
President of the Electronic Payments Association

edgeprod 04-04-2012 11:58 PM

.... What ....

porno jew 04-05-2012 12:00 AM

sounds legit.

ePayments 04-05-2012 12:04 AM

Thank you for your interest.

As the Association we do not have any shareholders, we only have our members' interests at our core, so we managed to negotiate a fantastic card programme for EPA members.

What sets us apart:

Joining fee - Free
ePayments Card - Free
Activation Fee - Free
Monthly Fee - Free
Card Loading - Free
POS - Free
ATM - $1.50

On top of that all payments between our members are FREE.

Funds of EPA members are held at the UK bank and are insured by the Lloyd's insurance market in London.

We worked very hard to give you the best possible card programme on the market. I certainly hope you will enjoy it.

edgeprod 04-05-2012 12:06 AM

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porno jew 04-05-2012 12:06 AM

cutting up my paxum and payoneer cards right now. they just can't compete.

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BSleazy 04-05-2012 12:16 AM

Sounds too good to be true.

rowan 04-05-2012 12:17 AM

Nice domain.

Why are you showing 45 posts in the <30 days you've had your account yet I can only see 2 when I search for your other threads?

BSleazy 04-05-2012 12:21 AM

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ePayments 04-05-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 18867581)
Nice domain.

Why are you showing 45 posts in the <30 days you've had your account yet I can only see 2 when I search for your other threads?

You are right we are new here and only have these posts. No idea why it shows 45 posts.

porno jew 04-05-2012 12:25 AM

Registrant:
Swiftcom Networks Limited

http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/epayments.com

EddyTheDog 04-05-2012 12:28 AM

I asked about this yesterday - Everyone ignored me as usual :).

They are an advertiser here - see above - I am intersted because it may be easier for me as a UK wm to use them than the others.

AmeliaG 04-05-2012 12:41 AM

It always raises a red flag to me when someone has to tell me they are trustworthy.

DamianJ 04-05-2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18867595)
They are an advertiser here - see above - I am intersted because it may be easier for me as a UK wm to use them than the others.

What's difficult about using the other, established ones in the UK? My Paxum card works everywhere here.

ePayments 04-05-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 18867579)
Sounds too good to be true.

Once again, we appreciate your interest.

Our aim is to approach the market with a creative and an attractive proposal and not to be another clone of Choice Bank of Belize.

We established the Electronic Payments Association as a response to a market need for a reliable and economic solution for making and receiving affiliate commission payments.

European Electronic Money regulations and the UK well developed financial market offer an ideal springboard to develop a high-quality product. As a non-for-profit organisation we negotiate on behalf of our members and are keen to protect their interests.

We certainly hope you will find our novelty approach useful and join the fast growing Association of online professionals.

porno jew 04-05-2012 01:57 AM

why would i choose your business over http://enumbered.com/ ?

VIP_xxx 04-05-2012 02:19 AM

nice nice :)

EddyTheDog 04-05-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18867602)
What's difficult about using the other, established ones in the UK? My Paxum card works everywhere here.

Not sure really, just thought it might be easier to connect it to my bank - Stuff like that.

Also, if they steal my money I can get to their office and burn it down more easily :)....

ePayments 04-05-2012 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18867645)
why would i choose your business over http://enumbered.com/ ?

The key difference would be, first of all that we are an Association which means that there are no shareholders our members' interests are all we care about.

Secondly, eNumbered is not a regulated business and does not offer any peace of mind with regards to keeping its clients funds secure. Reference to gold is pure marketing. Price of gold tends to fluctuate and now is almost at all time high. What happens to the value of their clients' funds when the price of gold falls?

Thirdly, I cannot seem to find any legal information about the company or their terms and conditions. This is alarming as I do not understand what regulates ones relationship with the company.

Electronic Payments Association legal documents are available to public for review. https://www.epayments.com/legal

E-Money business is highly regulated for the simple reason to protect people's funds. EPA works only with well established UK banks and offers highest level of security for members' funds.

With regards to anonymous transactions in order to transact EPA members only require to know each-others ePayments ID. This makes transactions anonymous. Furthermore, EPA members personal information is protected by Data Protection Act of 1998.

edgeprod 04-05-2012 10:37 AM

.... What .... what ....

JFK 04-05-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18867569)
cutting up my paxum and payoneer cards right now. they just can't compete.

pass the scissors please:thumbsup

porno jew 04-05-2012 10:54 AM

thanks for the clarification.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ePayments (Post 18867678)
The key difference would be, first of all that we are an Association which means that there are no shareholders our members' interests are all we care about.

Secondly, eNumbered is not a regulated business and does not offer any peace of mind with regards to keeping its clients funds secure. Reference to gold is pure marketing. Price of gold tends to fluctuate and now is almost at all time high. What happens to the value of their clients' funds when the price of gold falls?

Thirdly, I cannot seem to find any legal information about the company or their terms and conditions. This is alarming as I do not understand what regulates ones relationship with the company.

Electronic Payments Association legal documents are available to public for review. https://www.epayments.com/legal

E-Money business is highly regulated for the simple reason to protect people's funds. EPA works only with well established UK banks and offers highest level of security for members' funds.

With regards to anonymous transactions in order to transact EPA members only require to know each-others ePayments ID. This makes transactions anonymous. Furthermore, EPA members personal information is protected by Data Protection Act of 1998.


Barry-xlovecam 04-05-2012 11:36 AM

The audience here (in this industry) you will find skeptical.

A lot depends on the Affiliate market acceptance to us as we issue our own XLC Prepaid Debit Card internally to all of our models for "contractor payment."

How is your prepaid credit card available to '"members"; are they independent individuals who wish to receive payments using your card (Prepaid Debit Card) or is it limited to "sponsored members" i.e.; the intended payees of your "master members (for lack of a better term)" ?

If unclear, the availability of the membership ...

CyberHustler 04-05-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 18867579)
Sounds too good to be true.

+

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 18867581)
Why are you showing 45 posts in the <30 days you've had your account yet I can only see 2 when I search for your other threads?

+

the bad english from an english company

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_HNHeWt4cR...anks_thumb.jpg

ePayments 04-05-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18868806)
The audience here (in this industry) you will find skeptical.

A lot depends on the Affiliate market acceptance to us as we issue our own XLC Prepaid Debit Card internally to all of our models for "contractor payment."

How is your prepaid credit card available to '"members"; are they independent individuals who wish to receive payments using your card (Prepaid Debit Card) or is it limited to "sponsored members" i.e.; the intended payees of your "master members (for lack of a better term)" ?

If unclear, the availability of the membership ...

Thank you for your question.

Membership of the Association is open to individual and businesses involved in all areas of online marketing. Once verified all individual members are issued with ePayments Prepaid Card. The card is linked to the ePayments Account and can be instantly loaded.

Key facts about EPA's chip & pin ePayments Prepaid Card:
Maximum Card Balance - $20,000
Maximum Single Load - $10,000 (Limited to 2 loads per day)
ATM Withdraw Limit - $3,000 (per day)
ATM Fee - $1.50 (per transaction)

Members of the Association can get paid directly on to their ePayments Accounts by their affiliate programmes/networks even if a network paying is not an EPA member. In order to do so, an affiliate programme/network when making a bank transfer must mention payees ePayments ID under payment details.

However, businesses can make significant savings by joining the EPA as loading funds to their ePayments Accounts is totally free as well as payments between members.

I hope this clarifies our setup.

edgeprod 04-05-2012 03:29 PM

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Darkcrni 04-05-2012 03:33 PM

Nice....they have E.....in front like Epassport......hmmm must be good!

Rochard 04-05-2012 03:38 PM

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My name is Mike and I am the President of the Electronic Payments Association. We are the Association of online marketers that has been established to help the ecommerce community to make and receive payments faster, safer and cheaper.
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The very first thing you should have done was hired a consultant to help you figure out the online adult industry. Your very first post and your getting gang raped. You need some kind of sales rep to represent you... A friend face, not a complete stranger.

DamianJ 04-05-2012 03:44 PM

This guy has fuckec hs chances with adult. What a waste the banner here was

Maybe he can make some cash from gaming or something.

L-Pink 04-05-2012 03:45 PM

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raymor 04-05-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18869303)
The very first thing you should have done was hired a consultant to help you figure out the online adult industry. Your very first post and your getting gang raped. You need some kind of sales rep to represent you... A friend face, not a complete stranger.

And your rep could have told you not to keep calling it epass..., er I mean epayment. It's kind of like calling new car model the Pinta or an investment firm called "Enran, Madov, and Ponzy". It doesn't evoke feelings of trust in this industry.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ePayments (Post 18867561)
Hi everyone!

My name is Mike and I am the President of the Electronic Payments Association. We are the Association of online marketers that has been established to help the ecommerce community to make and receive payments faster, safer and cheaper.

Electronic Payments Association (EPA) is a true membership organisation registered in the United Kingdom and governed by English Law.

Members of EPA can make and receive payments to/from each other ABSOLUTELY FREE. Furthermore, all members are issued with a FREE ePayments Prepaid Card to access their funds.

To find out more, please join us at www.epayments.com

First members to join EPA don't PAY the JOINING FEE (Offer is limited and may be terminated at any time).

Just click here: http://www.epayments.com/?i=GFY

EPA team welcomes you and are happy to answer any questions you might have.

Kind regards,
Mike Rymanov
President of the Electronic Payments Association


rowan 04-05-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18868517)
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adultforum 04-05-2012 07:45 PM

I tried to register but before step 4 i got error:
Sorry, an error occurred while processing your request.
WTF?

JOKER 04-05-2012 07:55 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Y5DJp.png

mightyjoe 04-05-2012 08:57 PM

I signup, hope you can mail my card soon.

Your card are cool, I'm collecting different ATM CARDS around the world. Thank you.

https://www.epayments.com/Content/un...ges/b_card.png

CyberHustler 04-05-2012 09:03 PM

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V_RocKs 04-05-2012 10:44 PM

I fucked your mom.

ePayments 04-06-2012 12:58 AM

Ladies, Gents,

Thank you for a warm welcome. Your sceptical approach is expected and appreciated! I?m hearing you loud and clear... However, I?m still here and happy to answer any questions you might have in relation to our product offering.

If I may, I would like to ask you a question ?what?, ?what? does not ?seem legit??

You clearly believe that this proposal is not genuine, please care to explain or it?s just a nee jerk reaction. We have chosen this platform because we continue to believe that participants of the adult industry can make significant savings by joining the Association. Once again, should you have any questions with regards to the Electronic Payments Association, please feel free to ask.

As much as I appreciate ?creativity? in the rest of your comments, these are and will be ignored.

Regards,
Mike

DamianJ 04-06-2012 01:07 AM

I'd ask Eric for the money back for the banner and go and try gambling. You're fucked in adult now.

ePayments 04-06-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18869837)
I'd ask Eric for the money back for the banner and go and try gambling. You're fucked in adult now.

Your efforts to play down our value proposition are impressive. As much I would like to take your authoritative response at a face value I still can't find any reasons to do so.

DamianJ 04-06-2012 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ePayments (Post 18869866)
Your efforts to play down our value proposition are impressive.

More impressive than the English on your site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ePayments (Post 18869866)
As much I would like to take your authoritative response at a face value I still can't find any reasons to do so.

It's OK, you can waste more time here if you like. But really, you don't understand this industry, your site doesn't work, it has dreadful English on it, and you thought you could ingratiate yourself by spunking some money on an ad.

What you *should* have done is hire someone who understands the industry, paid for them to go to Phoenix, Quebec, Amsterdam shows. Given him a budget for entertainment. Got him to get together his contacts and explain why your proposal is better than Paxum, Payoneer etc and had a large programme start using you.

However, it's too late for all that now, so I am suggesting you just give up and try other markets. But when you do, spend some time researching them before you spunk more money up the wall.

Lots of love

Damian

ePayments 04-06-2012 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18869965)
More impressive than the English on your site.



It's OK, you can waste more time here if you like. But really, you don't understand this industry, your site doesn't work, it has dreadful English on it, and you thought you could ingratiate yourself by spunking some money on an ad.

What you *should* have done is hire someone who understands the industry, paid for them to go to Phoenix, Quebec, Amsterdam shows. Given him a budget for entertainment. Got him to get together his contacts and explain why your proposal is better than Paxum, Payoneer etc and had a large programme start using you.

However, it's too late for all that now, so I am suggesting you just give up and try other markets. But when you do, spend some time researching them before you spunk more money up the wall.

Lots of love

Damian

Damian,

Please do not get me wrong, I do value your input and appreciate your advice. We understand payments industry very well and have delivered a very competitive card programme and a payments processing platform that is second to none. I do personally invite you to join us, at least then your decisions can be more evaluated and not be purely based on subjective issues such as language style on our website.

The key difference between Paxum, Payoneer and us is that we preferred safeguards of European Electronic Money regulations to off-shore regulations. The reason for this is obvious. We believe that building a payments platform based on well developed and thought through regulations creates a more sustainable and robust structure that will have multiple benefits for our clients. These benefits include: a very secure and low cost card programme, unprecedented protection of personal data and a peace of mind for corporate as well as individual clients when it comes to keeping their funds secure. We went even further and arranged a comprehensive insurance cover to protect our members funds.

Damian, given time any industry whether adult, gambling or mainstream will recognise the value we carry into this business. Trust me our marketing budget is balanced and sufficient to undertake this challenge.

I find this dialog productive and would like to keep it open.

Regards,
Mike

Deputy Chief Command 04-06-2012 05:47 AM

what floor are you on in palladium house?


https://www.epayments.com/contacts

EddyTheDog 04-06-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18870092)
what box are you on in palladium house?


https://www.epayments.com/contacts

Fixed that for you...

That mailing box is on the 8th floor.

Deputy Chief Command 04-06-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ePayments (Post 18870015)

The key difference between Paxum, Payoneer and us is that we preferred safeguards of European Electronic Money regulations to off-shore regulations

The ePayments Prepaid Remote Transaction Account MasterCard is issued by Wave Crest Holdings Limited pursuant to a license from MasterCard International Incorporated. MasterCard® is a registered trademark of MasterCard International Incorporated. Wave Crest Holdings Limited is a licensed electronic money institution by the Gibraltar Financial Services Commission.

Mr M. Rymanov appointed 27 Jan 2012
also director of:
ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS ASSOCIATION LIMITED 07637944
FIBEG LTD. 07561445
SWIFTCOM NETWORKS LIMITED 07613051

:upsidedow

Deputy Chief Command 04-06-2012 05:59 AM

http://www.e-ppan.org/

EddyTheDog 04-06-2012 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18870106)
The ePayments Prepaid Remote Transaction Account MasterCard is issued by Wave Crest Holdings Limited pursuant to a license from MasterCard International Incorporated. MasterCard® is a registered trademark of MasterCard International Incorporated. Wave Crest Holdings Limited is a licensed electronic money institution by the Gibraltar Financial Services Commission.

Mr M. Rymanov appointed 27 Jan 2012
also director of:
ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS ASSOCIATION LIMITED 07637944
FIBEG LTD. 07561445
SWIFTCOM NETWORKS LIMITED 07613051

:upsidedow

To be fair most banks/finacial businesses have offices and do biz there. If a biz extends its operations overseas its expected they would do it from Gib or one of the Channel Islands.


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