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glamourmodels 04-09-2012 02:22 PM

SOPA IS BACK!!! (But Worse) Renamed CISPA - House Vote in 2 Weeks
 

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Latest update: Avaaz and the Electronic Frontier Foundation are now running petitions in an attempt to stop CISPA. Please click here to sign the petition.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/...ction_KEY=8444

On Twitter: #StopCISPA

In the wake of SOPA and PIPA, there is yet another terrifying bill on the table. The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (or CISPA for short) which is currently being discussed by Congress.

In Washington, Congress is discussing the best way to avert the ongoing cyberattacks and some legislators have put forward a new act which, if it passes Congress, will allow the government access to personal correspondence of any person of their choosing.
Much like the Big Brother tactics in the United Kingdom recently, this bill will likely cause an outcry of condemnation and criticism, as happened with the deceased SOPA and PIPA bills.

The title of this controversial act is H.R. 3523 and it has been dubbed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (or CISPA for short). It is feared that CISPA is far worse than SOPA and PIPA in its possible effects on the Internet.

While this paper has been created under the guise of being a necessary weapon in the U.S. war against cyberattacks, the wording of the paper is vague and broad. It is thought that the act could allow Congress to circumvent existing exemptions to online privacy laws and would allow the monitoring and censorship of any user and also stop online communications which they deem disruptive to the government or to private parties.

Critics say that CISPA would give any federal entity that claims it is threatened by online interactions the ability to take action against the "perpetrator". Unlike the SOPA and PIPA acts which were eventually discarded after a successful online campaign, widespread recognition of what the latest proposed law will do has yet to surface to the same degree.

Kendall Burman of the Center for Democracy and Technology tells RT:

?We have a number of concerns with something like this bill that creates sort of a vast hole in the privacy law to allow government to receive these kinds of information.?

She states that the bill, as it stands, allows the U.S. government to involve itself in any online correspondence if it believes there is reason to suspect cyber crime.

As with other recent attempts at Internet censorship that have been discussed in Congress, the wording within the CISPA allows the government to interpret the law so broadly, that any online communication or interaction could then be suspect, and monitored without the knowledge of the parties concerned.

The CDT in a press release last month warned that CISPA allows Internet Service Providers to ?funnel private communications and related information back to the government without adequate privacy protections and controls. The bill does not specify which agencies ISPs could disclose customer data to, but the structure and incentives in the bill raise a very real possibility that the National Security Agency or the DOD?s Cybercommand would be the primary recipient.?

CISPA has also been condemned by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an online advocacy group. They say that ?It effectively creates a ?cybersecurity'? exemption to all existing laws. There are almost no restrictions on what can be collected and how it can be used, provided a company can claim it was motivated by ?cybersecurity purposes'.?

According to both CDT and EFF, this means some of the largest corporations in the country, including online service providers like Google, Twitter, Facebook or AT&T could, if pressured, copy confidential information from a user and send this information to the Pentagon, as long as the government believes there is a reason to suspect wrongdoing.

According to the authors of CISPA, this bill has been made ?To provide for the sharing of certain cyber threat intelligence and cyber threat information between the intelligence community and cybersecurity entities.? They also state: ?and for other purposes,? which is broad and rather undefined.

In the video Kendall Burman of the Center for Democracy and Technology tells RT:

?Cyber security, when done right and done narrowly, could benefit everyone. But it needs to be done in an incremental way with a narrow approach, and the heavy hand that lawmakers are taking with these current bills . . . it brings real serious concerns.?

At today's date CISPA has the support of over 100 representatives in the House, who favor the cybersecurity legislation, but do not take into account what it can do to the everyday Internet user.

While there are no major protests as yet, as happened with SOPA and PIPA, Burman feels it will only be a matter of time before concerned Americans demand to have their say in the matter.

?One of the lessons we learned in the reaction to SOPA and PIPA is that when Congress tries to legislate on things that are going to affect Internet users? experience, the Internet users are going to pay attention,? says Burman. She adds that H.R. 3523 ?Definitely could affect in a very serious way the Internet experience.?

She does add that ?People are starting to notice.?

However, given the speed that this latest bill could be snuck through in Congress, anyone concerned over the future of the free Internet should be on the look out.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1rZww2UM5

And since I know all you dumb imbeciles will say this, I just have to pre-empt your idiocy... All you mouth breathing douchebags that think this will help you fight piracy on your sites and will magically restore your sales to circa 2000 levels are fucking kidding yourselves. Like the Feds really give a shit about helping a bunch of degenerate, sleazy porn merchants like you fucktards. Give me a fucking break dipshits. BTW, I am a content producer too morons-

glamourmodels 04-09-2012 02:25 PM

Draconian cyber security bill could lead to Internet surveillance and censorship


Reporters Without Borders is deeply concerned with the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011 (CISPA), the cyber security bill now before the US Congress.

In the name of the war on cyber crime, it would allow the government and private companies to deploy draconian measures to monitor, even censor, the Web. It might even be used to close down sites that publish classified files or information.

?Freedom of expression and the protection of online privacy are increasingly under threat in countries with a democratic reputation, where a series of bills and draft laws is sacrificing them in the interests of national security or copyright,? Reports Without Borders said.

?A blanket monitoring system is never an appropriate solution, nor is blocking or censoring websites that disclose information that is classified but of public interest. Reporters Without Borders opposes CISPA and ask Congress to reject this legislation.

?The organization recently highlighted Britain?s Orwellian bill, and France?s aspirations to make visiting websites that advocate terrorism or violence a crime. ?

CISPA is aimed at promoting the exchange of information between the authorities and the private sector to facilitate the detection of, and the fight against, cyber crime. However, it would allow the US government and private companies ? service and technical providers ? to install systems to monitor communications, or even close down or block access to websites.

The bill would allow companies protecting themselves ?to use cyber security systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information?. Such vaguely defined systems could also mean monitoring, blocking or filtering systems.

The definition of potential threats is even broader. It targets ??efforts to degrade, disrupt, or destroy? a system or network, the ?theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property, or personally identifiable information?.

Websites that publish classified information, from the New York Times to WikiLeaks, could fall within the scope of the legislation, according to the US digital rights organizationElectronic Frontier Foundation.

Collecting and sharing information arouses major concerns over the protection of privacy and personal information. CISPA would provide a way of circumventing existing privacy legislation.

Questioned about the bill, a spokesman for the Center for Democracy and Technology ? a non-profit group that campaigns for Internet freedom ? told Reporters Without Borders: "CISPA, in its current form, is alarmingly broad in scope. Companies should only be permitted to share narrow categories of information with the government that precisely describe a real cyber security threat. Information-sharing should be about increasing Internet users? security, not government surveillance."

The bipartisan bill was introduced on 30 November by two members of the House of Representatives, Republican Mike Rogers and C.A. ?Dutch? Ruppersberger, a Democrat, as an amendment for the 1947 National Security Act, and received the approval of the House Intelligence Committee the following day.

The next stage is a vote in the full House. At the end of March, Rogers announced he had garnered support for the bill from more than 100 members of Congress, Democrats as well as Republicans.

Two previous bills, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA), aimed at protecting intellectual property on the Web, were resisted by Silicon Valley but key Web players such as Facebook, Microsoft, IBM and AT&T have announced their support for CISPA.

http://en.rsf.org/etats-unis-draconi...012,42283.html

Spudstr 04-09-2012 02:29 PM

Its really only time till this gets put into law, they will just break up various parts of it and slip it in all over.

Just like the law that killed poker sites. Seriously what does poker have to do with anything about the port authority which law it got slipped into.

glamourmodels 04-09-2012 02:48 PM

haha, so in a little over 200 years we have gone from "give me liberty or give me death" to pathetic capitulators such as yourself who say "fuck it, let me bend over for you sir while you fuck me in the ass". Eloquent. To be sure I would never buy hosting from you as you would definitely be one of those candy asses who would roll over on all your clients in a second for sure. I am not even saying I fundamentally disagree with you in essence, but thats a pretty fatalistic and pussyish attitude to take LOL

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 18875412)
Its really only time till this gets put into law, they will just break up various parts of it and slip it in all over.

Just like the law that killed poker sites. Seriously what does poker have to do with anything about the port authority which law it got slipped into.


19teenporn 04-09-2012 02:49 PM

OMG!!!
Humanity is doomed!

Coup 04-09-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18875441)
OMG!!!
Humanity is doomed!

:2 cents::2 cents:

Zoxxa 04-09-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18875438)
haha, so in a little over 200 years we have gone from "give me liberty or give me death" to pathetic capitulators such as yourself who say "fuck it, let me bend over for you sir while you fuck me in the ass". Eloquent. To be sure I would never buy hosting from you as you would definitely be one of those candy asses who would roll over on all your clients in a second for sure. I am not even saying I fundamentally disagree with you in essence, but thats a pretty fatalistic and pussyish attitude to take LOL


What are you talking about? He was clearly making a point about how they will eventually play dirty and hide what they want into other bills. He never said he was rolling over and taking it in the ass. :eek7

Now you won't buy hosting from him and insult him? lol wtf....

glamourmodels 04-09-2012 03:25 PM

I said I did not disagree with his premise, only the fatalistic sense of accepting the inevitable which he seemed to convey. BTW, you have some shit on your hands on your avatar, go wash up.

Yes, I am an asshole. Deal with it or fuck off, either way, not my problem LOL

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18875447)
What are you talking about? He was clearly making a point about how they will eventually play dirty and hide what they want into other bills. He never said he was rolling over and taking it in the ass. :eek7

Now you won't buy hosting from him and insult him? lol wtf....


glamourmodels 04-09-2012 03:31 PM

Well, I am not suprised you are unconcerned. Latin America is the USA's bitch so you fuckers have no freedom to speak of anyway. Your President cant take a shit without Obama's permission, but people in the States are kinda attached to freedom so maybe it's a bigger deal in the US than down there.

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18875441)
OMG!!!
Humanity is doomed!


glamourmodels 04-09-2012 03:55 PM

What happened, did your idol force you to change your avatar since he did not want to be assiciated with you or something?

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18875446)
:2 cents::2 cents:


$5 submissions 04-09-2012 03:56 PM

It's like Jason Vorhees, hard to kill.

raymor 04-09-2012 03:58 PM

Next up, CDA III. Clinton is going to get that passed before she leaves Washington. Hope for change!

For the other point of view, here is Microsoft's letter supporting CISPA
http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/...soft113011.pdf

Tsharp23 04-09-2012 04:07 PM

So I guess they are just going to keep trying and trying. But whats the difference between this and what the patriot act already allows?

D Ghost 04-09-2012 04:27 PM

obama rama, heh.

Barry-xlovecam 04-09-2012 04:30 PM

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Dear Barry,

Thanks for sending an email to your Representatives opposing the dangerously vague cybersecurity bill H.R 3523.

EFF is committed to defending Internet users and civil liberties in the upcoming battle around cybersecurity legislation. And we're going to need your help to do it; both the House and Senate are considering dangerously broad legislation that could undermine fundamental rights to privacy and free speech.
Done and donated $50.00 -- I don't always agree with the EFF but they do defend Internet freedom causes and file briefs as amicus curiae in Internet rights and Internet privacy cases. So, if you object to some of these "cybersecurity laws" and their violation of privacy rights -- use their website to contact your elected representatives if you are a US Citizen -- that's free and donate something if you can to support the services of the EEF.


L-Pink 04-09-2012 04:36 PM

The time to get your panties into a bunch was when the Patriot Act got passed. That's when American'e lost their freedom. This is just the internet.

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Barry-xlovecam 04-09-2012 05:28 PM

The PATRIOT Act was steamrolled into law with the American public not understanding the limitations of constitutional rights within it. Ultimately, its outcome will be like the Sedition Act of 1918, hopefully -- Congress repealed the Sedition Act on December 13, 1920.

For the record, I did contact several Senators including the then presiding Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman and certain key members of that committee -- all I got were a few patronizing replies unfortunately -- I tried in vain but I did at least try.

But tell me, what did you do then besides possibly express an opinion here -- an opinion that no member of congress would at least hear?

You may say it is "only the Internet" but we (AC Webconnecting and myself) derive most of our revenue from the Internet. That world wide revenue is measured in millions of dollars monthly. So, it's just the Internet I find rather critical.

L-Pink 04-09-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18875688)
You may say it is "only the Internet" but we (AC Webconnecting and myself) derive most of our revenue from the Internet.

And the real reason surfaces. Nothing wrong with taking a political stance based on your personal economics.

edit; and you are correct I didn't do enough belief wise when the Patriot Act was passed.

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Coup 04-09-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18875557)
What happened, did your idol force you to change your avatar since he did not want to be assiciated with you or something?

Crazy much?

Fat Panda 04-09-2012 06:22 PM

fuck congress

19teenporn 04-09-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18875516)
Well, I am not suprised you are unconcerned. Latin America is the USA's bitch so you fuckers have no freedom to speak of anyway. Your President cant take a shit without Obama's permission, but people in the States are kinda attached to freedom so maybe it's a bigger deal in the US than down there.

Sorry, nothing i can do against THAT level of ignorance...

DWB 04-09-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18875617)
The time to get your panties into a bunch was when the Patriot Act got passed. That's when American'e lost their freedom. This is just the internet.

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No one seemed to give a shit about that. But take away their free porn and music and IT'S ON! :1orglaugh

People get the government they deserve. They should have been rioting in the streets over the Patriot Act but no one cared. Now it's only a matter of time before they control the internet. And the people have no one to blame but themselves when it happens. They voted these idiots in and continue to vote for idiots just like the last ones. Then when something goes horribly wrong, they roll over and take it in the ass. The bailouts were a prime example of just how much ass fucking Americans will take. Next round of bailouts will be exactly the same.

Then you have the people in the Middle East, they get shit done. It was bloody and it's still not sorted out, but the people spoke. They violently kicked their leaders out. THAT is what needs to be happening right now in the USA. But until American Idol and Facebook takes a back seat to their children's future, it will never happen.

u-Bob 04-09-2012 06:55 PM

DWB,
don't forget that in 1776 only minority actually supported the idea of independence.

tony286 04-09-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18875781)
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No one seemed to give a shit about that. But take away their free porn and music and IT'S ON! :1orglaugh

People get the government they deserve. They should have been rioting in the streets over the Patriot Act but no one cared. Now it's only a matter of time before they control the internet. And the people have no one to blame but themselves when it happens. They voted these idiots in and continue to vote for idiots just like the last ones. Then when something goes horribly wrong, they roll over and take it in the ass. The bailouts were a prime example of just how much ass fucking Americans will take. Next round of bailouts will be exactly the same.

Then you have the people in the Middle East, they get shit done. It was bloody and it's still not sorted out, but the people spoke. They violently kicked their leaders out. THAT is what needs to be happening right now in the USA. But until American Idol and Facebook takes a back seat to their children's future, it will never happen.

Good points but a few things.

If you start talking about hurting the president or blowing something up in more than in passing. You will get a knock on your door even without this law.

Hackers, pirates , etc have all been in your face and laughing in the face of laws. It was just a matter of time before there was going to be a crack down.

The riots in the middle east is because those people didnt have shit. As much as people bitch here from their iphones, 80 percent of this country still lives a pretty good life. People dont revolt if they got something to lose.
Also the grass always looks greener. You never know the government you are going to get once government is over thrown.
I worked with a guy at GM, his father and 7 brothers all worked there also. His father and uncles were revolutionaries that helped Castro get into a power. Once it happened and it wasnt all roses as they had hoped , there was a big oh shit moment. When Castro started throwing their friends in jail, so they hauled ass out of the country. So you never know what you will get and if it will be better.

Spudstr 04-09-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glamourmodels (Post 18875438)
haha, so in a little over 200 years we have gone from "give me liberty or give me death" to pathetic capitulators such as yourself who say "fuck it, let me bend over for you sir while you fuck me in the ass". Eloquent. To be sure I would never buy hosting from you as you would definitely be one of those candy asses who would roll over on all your clients in a second for sure. I am not even saying I fundamentally disagree with you in essence, but thats a pretty fatalistic and pussyish attitude to take LOL

You really are an idiot aren't you? We stand up for our clients, go a head and ask eric from remove your content and how much resistance we give him when he doesn't follow the DMCA law correctly and sends DMCA's that are "too broad" of a request. We work closely with our lawyers, many of which have met him in person and is a well known lawyer in this industry, Marc Randazza. We follow the law and don't tolerate bullshit requests, everything we send to our clients is a validated legit request validated by marc and his team.

My point is they will weasel parts of various acts into other laws that have nothing to do with it.

Grow up, so you won't buy hosting from us. I'm so hurt. All the people we host would say otherwise.

Barry-xlovecam 04-09-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18875781)
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[N]o one seemed to give a shit about that. But take away their free porn and music and IT'S ON! :1orglaugh

People get the government they deserve. They should have been rioting in the streets over the Patriot Act but no one cared. Now it's only a matter of time before they control the internet. And the people have no one to blame but themselves when it happens ...

The media sold the necessity of the PATRIOT Act in the face of the new threat of domestic terrorism. There was uproar but in the civilized form of debate. Governments in succession added more measures to the law. I wish there was hope for stopping this slippery slope of the alienation of constitutional rights but as of now no champion has arisen to this cause -- hopefully that will happen and some sanity will be reestablished.

With the Draconian laws that followed, they proved that the terrorists had won with the rights of the victim citizens denied in the face of terrorist threat (real or perceived).

America needs to return to more normal times historically it always has.

DWB 04-10-2012 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18875805)
DWB,
don't forget that in 1776 only minority actually supported the idea of independence.


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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18875906)
The media sold the necessity of the PATRIOT Act in the face of the new threat of domestic terrorism. There was uproar but in the civilized form of debate. Governments in succession added more measures to the law. I wish there was hope for stopping this slippery slope of the alienation of constitutional rights but as of now no champion has arisen to this cause -- hopefully that will happen and some sanity will be reestablished.

With the Draconian laws that followed, they proved that the terrorists had won with the rights of the victim citizens denied in the face of terrorist threat (real or perceived).

America needs to return to more normal times historically it always has.

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18875878)
Good points but a few things.

If you start talking about hurting the president or blowing something up in more than in passing. You will get a knock on your door even without this law.

Hackers, pirates , etc have all been in your face and laughing in the face of laws. It was just a matter of time before there was going to be a crack down.

The riots in the middle east is because those people didnt have shit. As much as people bitch here from their iphones, 80 percent of this country still lives a pretty good life. People dont revolt if they got something to lose.
Also the grass always looks greener. You never know the government you are going to get once government is over thrown.
I worked with a guy at GM, his father and 7 brothers all worked there also. His father and uncles were revolutionaries that helped Castro get into a power. Once it happened and it wasnt all roses as they had hoped , there was a big oh shit moment. When Castro started throwing their friends in jail, so they hauled ass out of the country. So you never know what you will get and if it will be better.

All valid points.

Emil 04-10-2012 03:26 AM

They will continue to push these bills until one of them passes.

Hermes 04-10-2012 04:31 AM

With freedom comes responsibility. If more people actually cared about their freedom more than their "right" to steal and cause damage, there wouldn't be such need for bills and discussions like these.

Also if you're going to fight fire, it's better to use water than gasoline.

DamianJ 04-10-2012 04:33 AM

It's so sweet people think this is about online porn piracy.

CPimp 04-10-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18875617)
The time to get your panties into a bunch was when the Patriot Act got passed. That's when American'e lost their freedom. This is just the internet.

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This.

8char.

glamourmodels 04-12-2012 11:42 AM

Actually, I think the term is "idiot-savant"... I was just trollin ya bro, no worries haha-

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 18875905)
You really are an idiot aren't you?


pimpmaster9000 04-12-2012 12:00 PM

go to youtube and type in "full movie" you will get 12.000.000 results ...thats how hard they try:321GFY

fucking hypocrites..."it would affect the internet experience" for the users if they can not steal other peoples property and feel smug about it :1orglaugh

pirates are going down soon...sopa/pipa/acta/cispa the shit is starting to hit the fan more and more and the frequency is increasing ...


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