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Embedding Can Be Copyright Infringement
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very interesting, thanks for posting this
also should be a heads up for those that scrape and embed :2 cents: |
oooh uhh there goes GFY
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Great, no more embedding from redtube and xvideos!
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Where people tend to get overly excited about this stuff, and where they get confused about law in general, is that they forget prosecutors, judges, and others involved with the law are humans and have brains. So if the ruling stands that only means that embedding doesn't AUTOMATICALLY exempt you. A judge can still tell the difference between stolenvideos.com embedding your content from hackers.com versus howto.com embedding a youtube video.
In the megaupload case we've read about emails where the officers of the company explicitly said they wanted to get more thieves to upload more stolen stuff. Prosecutors needed those emails because it matters - the law, and judges applying the law, pay attention to that stuff. |
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plenty of people have been prosecuted for running sites that just linked to pirated material can't see who embedding would be any different.
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Now I haven't had the opportunity to read the brief filed by Google but by this part of the TSO it was not motivated by the embedding of the errant youtube user posting ... There are parallels to Google Images here ... Facebook's issue should be obvious. |
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If the content is the same and re-distributed the same way, the law and judges shouldn't distinguish between the two. Because this is about embedding, not placement. |
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It is also a huge difference between a mostly non-infringing site where an occasional copyrighted clip slips through every now and then, and get's dealt with quickly. And some mostly infringing site where an occasional non-infringing clip slips through - that's pretty much different story, and courts are usually perfectly capable of telling one type of sites from another. For the second type of sites tubes like youtube are not really suitable as a source of embeds, because copyright holders will just block all of their clips there probably without even bothering of trying to contant the site itself. They'll have nothing to post in no time because YT will not allow them to reupload. But an illegal tube, that doesn't block anything and doesn't ban anyone, well, that's a good source of embeds for those who intend to infringe of a regular basic. |
^to be fair, youtube hosts far far far more copyrighted material than any other site. Material that ISN'T removed.
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However, I have to admit that it is certainly possible to remove all of our clips from youtube and make sure they never appear again there. I'm not doing it for various reasons (mostly because youtube is not the prime target since they do not allow hardcore, and also because on some of those clips they even display our network logo so we get at least some exposure from youtube), but that's certainly possible. If some tubes will appear that will start embedding our stolen clips en masse, I'll definitely put other matters aside and contact youtube to get this sorted out. |
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