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porno jew 04-22-2012 11:21 AM

Is It Really True That Ratios Decline When Manwin Buys A Program?
 
did anyone's twistys ratios go down? euro revenue? playboy?

i think everyone is confusing them with mediarevenue.

Rothstein 04-22-2012 11:33 AM

1:230 average for me on all manwin programs on tgp traffic.

porno jew 04-22-2012 11:35 AM

thanks for the insight.

signupdamnit 04-22-2012 11:37 AM

I thought you were seeing the same thing or did the ratios get better for you in the later months?

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guess that's why the shave has been cranked up lately. a giant final fuck you to the affiliates who made them who they are.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18506545&postcount=13

I saw the ratios fall drastically when they bought webcams.com. Funny things happened to the stats such as for a time they were all zeroed out, past money due disappeared. At the least there were technical problems. They never came out and publicly declared they owned it until around six months later. There were a few threads about it. In the last six months (including the topic you posted on)) I've seen a lot of people complaining about ND and Program3. But then there are some who say everything is fine. Let's see what people have to say.

porno jew 04-22-2012 11:45 AM

ratios good / same - 1

ratios worsened - 1

porno jew 04-22-2012 11:47 AM

no one knows when when they took over the rk properties so they are not allowed in this informal poll.

porno jew 04-22-2012 11:55 AM

twistys, euro revenue, reality cash, playboy, webcams.com, digital playground, brazzers.

signupdamnit 04-22-2012 11:56 AM

Here's one of the threads about webcams.com not too long after they were bought by Manwin. If my memory is correct on the date being around March or April 2010.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=976102

There were a lot of other threads like this and many affiliates claiming problems.


Some sample messages:

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I used to do pretty well with their revshare. A few months ago, my re-buys dropped dramatically. I have more traffic than I did then, still getting a couple new members every week, but no one is fucking buying anything.

AWE, however, is fucking killing it for me.

How are your Webcams.com revshares looking?
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Yes, I heard something is broke on their site. Sales have sucked and I am told they have not approved any new models in well over a week. Maybe someone from Webcams can tell us what is going on? When will your site be fixed?
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It's in the shitter for everything.
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2.99$ one signup, -24.95$ chargeback
1:10 000 +
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0:6020 - Sales have stopped totally
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Same here.
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should've left webcams when they got bought out folks...

Thats what I did and I am more than happy with whom I'm with now.

ps. I miss you Blake
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no that is not true the problem here is that the program got sold and they changed the good way that this site was managed
Here's a message from me July 1, 2010 complaining about it. I knew nothing of Fabian buying it so it wasn't a case of my being out to get Manwin.

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Around April something happened with their stats. I believe they changed systems or such? I'm not sure but I see it in my stats as it's all fucked up before then. Anyway shortly before that I decided they were a lost cause and pulled most of my links. There's still a trickle to them but no signups. No rebills of any kind either. Conversions in the 1:5,000 ballpark here with that trickle traffic.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17300525&postcount=5

Then someone replied to my reply with:

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That's when it went bad for me too. I contacted webcams about it, and they gave me the usual runaround. Told me I need to do things differently and that I need to send more traffic. I'm with IMLive now but things are really bad with them, too. Who else is there to try? I'd like to try MTree but their minimum payout is really high.
I'll let someone else do ND, BB, or program3 in the last six months if they want. There are a ton of threads.

porno jew 04-22-2012 11:57 AM

my thread my rules sorry. to soon for rk. no one knows when they were taken over.

arock10 04-22-2012 12:08 PM

Webcams died hard for me when they took over.

Twistys and playboy always converted terribly so hard to tell

porno jew 04-22-2012 12:09 PM

ratios good / same - 1

ratios worsened - 2

yes playboy and twistys always did horrible on the affiliate side for me as well.

porno jew 04-22-2012 12:12 PM

part of the problem with webcams.com is their join page and credit package options. i don't know if it was always like that but it's as confusing as hell as to what you are buying and i can see surfers just moving on.

GAMEFINEST 04-22-2012 12:17 PM

not a big diff here

porno jew 04-22-2012 12:19 PM

ratios good / same - 2

ratios worsened - 2

Nicky 04-22-2012 12:25 PM

I can guarantee that eurorevenues ratios didn't worsen.

porno jew 04-22-2012 12:52 PM

ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

signupdamnit 04-22-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18902193)
ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

Isn't Nicky a Manwin employee?

porno jew 04-22-2012 01:00 PM

he has access to stats so he would know. vote stays.

jimmycooper 04-22-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18902193)
ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

No offense to Nicky or anything, but you may want to reconsider giving him a fully weighted vote. I'd really hate to see bias sneak in and corrupt your highly scientific little poll. Give him a half weight. Make it 2.5 to 2.

signupdamnit 04-22-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18902206)
No offense to Nicky or anything, but you may want to reconsider giving him a fully weighted vote. I'd really hate to see bias sneak in and corrupt your highly scientific little poll. Give him a half weight. Make it 2.5 to 2.

I think he's also counting Rothstein who is either a TGP god or else is trollin'. :upsidedow His poll though. People can take off those votes they don't trust on their own if they want.

fris 04-22-2012 01:10 PM

only happens with mediarevenue

Nicky 04-22-2012 01:11 PM

I have access to stats and I am telling the truth.

Brujah 04-22-2012 01:15 PM

Ratios have definitely improved. I don't even send traffic to Manwin programs anymore, and my sales have doubled.

porno jew 04-22-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 18902215)
only happens with mediarevenue

yeah i think people have got the two confused.

Nick-Mindgeek 04-22-2012 02:18 PM

Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

BlackCrayon 04-22-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeko (Post 18902278)
Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

porno jew 04-22-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18902284)
this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?

Nick-Mindgeek 04-22-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18902284)
this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

There will always be campaigns that die. That key is to work with us to keep ratios and sales on the increase. We do this quite well with some really remarkable technologies we have built.

Reach out. You'll be impressed with the cash our team can make on your traffic !

mineistaken 04-22-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeko (Post 18902278)
Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

sure you got us convinced.

fris 04-22-2012 02:56 PM

neko can you hit me up 704-299

Nick-Mindgeek 04-22-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 18902318)
neko can you hit me up 704-299

First thing tomorrow, if that's ok.

signupdamnit 04-22-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18902290)
leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?

"Twisty's Rebills"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039408

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Anyone else have a drop of 50% or more in rebills for Twistys? This is very odd. It's been a solid for years.
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yes.. i have this month, i found it extremely odd...
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Ok well at least that verifies that I'm not the only one. Shap and his team did an amazing job. I guess all good things come to an end...
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for everyone commenting on the members area, and drop in standards... did any of you actually look in the members?.. the standards havent dropped and more thanlikely the content was shot well before..

however it is odd rebills have dropped as much as ive seen
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039408

Adraco 04-22-2012 03:39 PM

I will say on the contrary,

for me, Playboy has finally taken off and doing nice regular sales and Twistys that I always liked but wasn't able to convert has turned around and seeing nice rebills! I can't say that I'm in any one way unhappy with how the sites are being run, for me it has turned out good.

porno jew 04-22-2012 04:06 PM

i could cherry pick posts all day from webmasters to prove either point. i want to hear first hand experiences. thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18902347)
"Twisty's Rebills"


signupdamnit 04-22-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18902414)
i could cherry pick posts all day from webmasters to prove either point. i want to hear first hand experiences. thanks.

BlackCrayon told you there were examples all over the board. You asked for them. I gave you one. I could find a couple dozen more but you don't want them so I won't do that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornojew
leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?


porno jew 04-22-2012 04:29 PM

ratios good / same / improved - 4

ratios worsened - 2

VenusBlogger 04-22-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18902074)
did anyone's twistys ratios go down? euro revenue? playboy?

i think everyone is confusing them with mediarevenue.

STOP whining, you have no fucking idea.

If you can't convert a paysite then go to work on McDonalds.

I do pretty well with paysites -> 1:250 on average.

Nobody here knows any of your SITES, do you own any, or are you just a FAKE LURKER here browsing 24/7 the forum and posting 100 times a day?

Man, nobody here knows any of your sites... Are you an adult webmaster at all?

In your FACE!

PERIOD.

wehateporn 04-22-2012 04:32 PM

Playboy seems to have got better for me
For March and April I'm converting at 1:609

Over the same period in 2011 I was doing 1:749

porno jew 04-22-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 18902445)
STOP whining, you have no fucking idea.

If you can't convert a paysite then go to work on McDonalds.

I do pretty well with paysites -> 1:250 on average.

Nobody here knows any of your SITES, do you own any, or are you just a FAKE LURKER here browsing 24/7 the forum and posting 100 times a day?

Man, nobody here knows any of your sites... Are you an adult webmaster at all?

In your FACE!

PERIOD.

sold all my sites. just do youtube video promotion now.

period.

porno jew 04-22-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18902447)
Playboy seems to have got better for me
For March and April I'm converting at 1:609

Over the same period in 2011 I was doing 1:749

nice. i think you promote quite a bit of playboy as well.

ratios good / same / improved - 5

ratios worsened - 2

Sly 04-22-2012 04:38 PM

I'm having problems figuring out the new multi program interface. How do I make it show stats only for the Playboy program?

Many years ago I did pretty good with that program, I doubt I'm sending it much traffic these days.

Nick-Mindgeek 04-22-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18902457)
I'm having problems figuring out the new multi program interface. How do I make it show stats only for the Playboy program?

Many years ago I did pretty good with that program, I doubt I'm sending it much traffic these days.


The multiple brands stuffed inside realitycash will be fixed shortly. This was done in the past.

In a bit :

Realitycash will be the home of reality gang
Playboywebmasters will be the home of all playboy properties.

There is some amazing stuff coming from playboy very soon. The playboy brand will explode online as it truly deserves !

Hit me up for playboy beta new products ;)

jimmycooper 04-22-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeko (Post 18902494)
The multiple brands stuffed inside realitycash will be fixed shortly. This was done in the past.

In a bit :

Realitycash will be the home of reality gang
Playboywebmasters will be the home of all playboy properties.

There is some amazing stuff coming from playboy very soon. The playboy brand will explode online as it truly deserves !

Hit me up for playboy beta new products ;)

Do you anticipate ever having the rights to German playboy as affiliate content?

DWB 04-22-2012 05:34 PM

Doesn't make much sense to buy assets and harm them. With all of their traffic and stats from that traffic, I would think they have conversions dialed in even more. In theory, you should be making a lot more money with Manwin running the site.

It's a little surprising to hear so many are not.

porno jew 04-22-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18902533)

It's a little surprising to hear so many are not.

ratios worsened - 2

iSpyCams 04-22-2012 07:41 PM

Webcams got really bad for me. I also used to get good conversions on Fling with Nasty Dollars but not anymore.

Content sites on Nasty Dollars still seems to convert well.

Nick-Mindgeek 04-22-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18902531)
Do you anticipate ever having the rights to German playboy as affiliate content?

Thats a great question. Will have to check this and let you know.

TheSquealer 04-22-2012 07:42 PM

Every time Manwin buys a website, an angel gets its wings.

jimmycooper 04-22-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 18902684)
Webcams got really bad for me. I also used to get good conversions on Fling with Nasty Dollars but not anymore.

Content sites on Nasty Dollars still seems to convert well.

OK, here's the new tally

ratios good / same / improved - 6

ratios worsened - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeko (Post 18902687)
Thats a great question. Will have to check this and let you know.

Cool. Even model specific banners would be great.

Paul Markham 04-23-2012 12:42 AM

Would a man who created something then runs it with attention, care and love.

Will it perform better than some guy on a wage running it?

Appreciate that in a big company a lot of work is given to employees, still the man at the top has over all command.


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