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MrDeiz 04-25-2012 12:14 AM

CCBill - it's getting out of hands
 
My sales with CCBill have never been that bad and i also see my 10k of CCBill referred webmasters in decline as well.

For over than 30 days they can't fix their stuff. Admin isn't loading for hour. Sales are getting lower day after day. Refunds... Well there're more than enough refunds.

Can CCBill guys tell us when it's going to recover?

babymaker 04-25-2012 12:20 AM

Billing with a credit card is so 2006 it's all about branding now find and try :)

kal86 04-25-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 18907422)
Billing with a credit card is so 2006 it's all about branding now find and try :)

Hate to say it but true

Fat Panda 04-25-2012 12:45 AM

something has been fucked at ccbill for a LONG time. sales come in waves, once every 6 weeks

Radical Bucks 04-25-2012 04:10 AM

Manwin buying out CCBill?

arock10 04-25-2012 04:23 AM

This week has been awful after 2 record breaking weeks in a row

sojproductions 04-25-2012 04:26 AM

sales are in waves, every 3 or 4 days we have an excellent day then it crashes over night, we are not talking fluctuations of 5%, it drops 70% overnight, its a fuckin mess. For years it was like clockwork, i could set my watch by the number of sales at any given time in the day. That was until 1 year ago when something, somewhere changed, fuck knows what though.

TheSenator 04-25-2012 04:50 AM

Waiting for the official canned statement.

femdomdestiny 04-25-2012 04:54 AM

Do they give some explanation,or just ignoring these posts?

rogueteens 04-25-2012 04:57 AM

Waiting to hear too, my ccbill stats have been poo too

SwirlsGirl 04-25-2012 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 18907625)
sales are in waves, every 3 or 4 days we have an excellent day then it crashes over night, we are not talking fluctuations of 5%, it drops 70% overnight, its a fuckin mess. For years it was like clockwork, i could set my watch by the number of sales at any given time in the day. That was until 1 year ago when something, somewhere changed, fuck knows what though.

what is wrong with everyone bashing ccbill?

why can't people stop blaming ccbill and check their own traffic?

So many conspiracy theorists blaming their troubles on a billing company?

Don't you understand that its normal to have 19,000,000 join form hits with 2 join form submissions and 1 approval?

I think some of you people are no better than people who think lee harvey oswald was framed

links pulled

50 ccbill threads

how many stds you got?

who mows your nose hair?

I pop my pimples because they ask me too

etc.

2012 04-25-2012 05:06 AM

hi CCBILL. I still live in 2006, can you update my stats .......... :Oh crap something just isn't looking 'a'ok

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CurrentlySober 04-25-2012 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18907654)
my ccbill stats have been poo too

i like stats :thumbsup

EddyTheDog 04-25-2012 05:27 AM

They are a fucking joke.

Because I want to promo sexart.com I have had to buy Nifty Stats just so I can see my stats.

femdomdestiny 04-25-2012 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18907670)
i like stats :thumbsup

I've thought you like poo....what happened? Are you ok?

pornguy 04-25-2012 05:35 AM

I thought He already did.

SIK 04-25-2012 07:34 AM

Well, all I can say is this..

As anyone, we have good and bad days or even good and bad periods.
Before, when few bad days came in a row I (or some partner or some friend) tested it with my own card and membership was successfully bought. No error or wierd occurence.

So the basic logic tells me, it is all ok with ccbill and people should look / analyse their own sites, do people even want to join them?

camfrog 04-25-2012 07:47 AM

I made 0 ccbill referral sales last week. I've had 2 sales so far this week. Not good but better than last week.

topnotch, standup guy 04-25-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker (Post 18907422)
Billing with a credit card is so 2006 it's all about branding now find and try :)

Branding what?

Penis pills or somesuch? :321GFY


.

DVTimes 04-25-2012 08:14 AM

i made 3 zillion pounds last week.

arock10 04-25-2012 09:12 AM

[email protected] has been insanely slow for months too... six day turn around time

BNMedia 04-28-2012 04:46 AM

Yes the CCBill admin is painful to use and so I have recently tried using Verotel and Epoch for type-in traffic sales. However, we have noticed no better conversions in the last week or two. In fact the last week has been especially poor, so I don't think we can jump in and blame CCBill!
:2 cents:

iSpyCams 04-28-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18907656)
what is wrong with everyone bashing ccbill?

why can't people stop blaming ccbill and check their own traffic?

So many conspiracy theorists blaming their troubles on a billing company?

Don't you understand that its normal to have 19,000,000 join form hits with 2 join form submissions and 1 approval?

I think some of you people are no better than people who think lee harvey oswald was framed

links pulled

50 ccbill threads

how many stds you got?

who mows your nose hair?

I pop my pimples because they ask me too

etc.

LOL looks like we have an unlikely new CCBill spokesperson.

CreamXtreme 04-28-2012 05:26 AM

CCBill and Others
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18907656)
What is wrong with everyone bashing ccbill?

why can't people stop blaming ccbill and check their own traffic?

So many conspiracy theorists blaming their troubles on a billing company?

This is only one of the problems that a webmaster who promotes affiliate sites has. Many things can go wrong with stats and sales. I feel the worst thing is when you can't sign in and view your own stats - if you can't sign in half the time - wonder where their tracking systems are, on vacation, too.

This is not just for CCBill but others too.

Another big problem we have had in this industry for years is chargebacks - ya tink sum1 wood figer out a way to prevent so many chargebacks too.

iSpyCams 04-28-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18913406)
Have any of you compared your CCBill problems timing to Panda changes? Meaning, when you guys are in here complaining us MS AdSense publishers are going through the same exact thing who don't use CCBill. Some weeks we are on fire as other weeks traffic is somewhat the same, but CPC goes down as low as -90% from the previous week. BUT the monthly earning totals are off with the same traffic decreasing at 3-5% every month.

Meaning, could this correlation just be a SE panda traffic issue?

I came back in here to say exactly this. My CCBill sales are fairly stable as I don't get any SE traffic at all. It's all purchased traffic. Yeah this week is a bit lower than expected but not a large enough variance to be concerned about - besides the week aint over.

SwirlsGirl 04-28-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18913406)
Have any of you compared your CCBill problems timing to Panda changes? Meaning, when you guys are in here complaining us MS AdSense publishers are going through the same exact thing who don't use CCBill. Some weeks we are on fire as other weeks traffic is somewhat the same, but CPC goes down as low as -90% from the previous week. BUT the monthly earning totals are off with the same traffic decreasing at 3-5% every month.

Meaning, could this correlation just be a SE panda traffic issue?

Why does everything decrease accept the hits to the join forms?

If tube sites, keywords rankings, piracy,pass word sites,file sharing sites, global warming, tax season,recession, and what ever clever cutting edge ideas we assert were affecting sales....

Wouldn't logic dictate to everyone that if you were seeing traffic decreases, affiliate decreases, sales decreases, wouldn't you expect to see decreases in form hits?

All I can confirm is increased uniques, increased keywords, increased affiliates,better key word rankings, increased *FORM HITS* ......................and *DECREASED FORM SUBMISSIONS

I would have thought form hits would drop off with the drop off of everything else, but for some reason more and more customers are making it to the join form than ever.

SwirlsGirl 04-28-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 18913434)
I came back in here to say exactly this. My CCBill sales are fairly stable as I don't get any SE traffic at all. It's all purchased traffic. Yeah this week is a bit lower than expected but not a large enough variance to be concerned about - besides the week aint over.

Would you be willing to post a weeks worth of join form submissions percentages....I would like to see what steady percentages look like according to you.

I have my own idea of what steady percentages looks like and I wanted to know if you would be brave enough to post 7 in a row of join form submission percentages.

you do not even have to post the days of the week or dates, jut the percentages such as 15%,25%,30%,2%,6%,8%,etc

thanks

smutnut 04-28-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18907656)

I think some of you people are no better than people who think lee harvey oswald was framed

You mean that wasn't LBJ and the Secret Service and the Mafia and Castro all working together in perfect harmony without any real trigger-men ever spilling spilling the beans and turning states evidence with actual facts to get out of something they later did in life :Oh crap ?

SwirlsGirl 04-28-2012 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18913474)
You mean that wasn't LBJ and the Secret Service and the Mafia and Castro all working together in perfect harmony without any real trigger-men ever spilling spilling the beans and turning states evidence with actual facts to get out of something they later did in life :Oh crap ?

There seems 2 types of people in the world with respect to conspiracy theories, those that can grasp the conspiracy and those who cannot grasp the conspiracy.

There are some who can have a mountain of evidence presented to them and still deny the undeniable...

some can study a few clues intensively and be driven by the desire to know the truth, and once they get a shot of that truth it becomes an insatiable thirst.

In a world of deception where it pays to lie cheat and steal, truth is an elusive and evasive prospect that only reveals itself to those who stop at nothing in their pursuit to seek truth..

telling the truth is easy, its when you lie deceive, and defraud where it becomes work...you have to always cover your bases, and it gets harder and harder to hide the obvious

Fat Panda 04-28-2012 06:43 AM

ccbill get out of the 1990s and offer ACH direct deposit to your clients & affiliates.

SwirlsGirl 04-28-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 18913499)
ccbill get out of the 1990s and offer ACH direct deposit to your clients & affiliates.

Would ACH and Direct Deposit reduce a lot of chargebacks and refunds?

WOuld it make customers feel more safe about their transactions?

Would it be more secure?

MrDeiz 05-04-2012 12:53 AM

it's still no good with CCBill (((

scarlettcontent 05-04-2012 01:13 AM

yes ccbill are not performing!

Jakez 05-04-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camfrog (Post 18907846)
I made 0 ccbill referral sales last week. I've had 2 sales so far this week. Not good but better than last week.

Nothing can be concluded from such a small amount of sales. Hell you can hardly get any solid realiable data from 2 sales a DAY. Just because you had 2 sales this week does not mean there was something wrong last week. You could go another 2 weeks without a single sale. That just means that your average is 1 sale every 2 weeks (or worse).

babymaker 05-04-2012 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18907871)
Branding what?

Penis pills or somesuch? :321GFY


.

Was a joke :)

jscott 05-04-2012 02:21 AM

I would love to see ccbill addressing these situations like they would have a few years ago

Now they come across as NOT GIVING A FUCK! :(

Markul 05-04-2012 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18908095)
[email protected] has been insanely slow for months too... six day turn around time

I got replies within hours yesterday and today. Strange.

pornmasta 05-04-2012 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18907648)
Waiting for the official canned statement.

sales are in motion ?

pornmasta 05-04-2012 04:17 AM

I think that the problem is probably visa that is so 2012...

SwirlsGirl 05-04-2012 06:08 AM

customer A 1st submit......"transaction denied by bank"

customer A 2nd submit 1 minute later......"approved new subscription"

2MuchMark 05-04-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18907656)
what is wrong with everyone bashing ccbill?

why can't people stop blaming ccbill and check their own traffic?

So many conspiracy theorists blaming their troubles on a billing company?

Don't you understand that its normal to have 19,000,000 join form hits with 2 join form submissions and 1 approval?

I think some of you people are no better than people who think lee harvey oswald was framed

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

VenusBlogger 05-04-2012 07:46 AM

my ccbill sales and ratio were normal in april, but i had some ugly chargebacks lately.. very strange..

2MuchMark 05-04-2012 07:52 AM

It's not fair to CCBill to blame them for YOUR low sales.

If you really think it is the billers fault, why not sign up with multiple billers and give your customers a choice? Or better still, use a cascade?

Or, Get setup with Google Analytics, insert the GA code into your CCBill account (which I never knew they supported before), setup CCBill as a "goal", and watch your traffic flow.

Dig Deeper. Assuming its the billers problem is an easy mistake to make.

2MuchMark 05-04-2012 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 18929072)
my ccbill sales and ratio were normal in april, but i had some ugly chargebacks lately.. very strange..

Did you call the card holders who charged back and ask them why they did so?

SwirlsGirl 05-04-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18929087)
It's not fair to CCBill to blame them for YOUR low sales.

If you really think it is the billers fault, why not sign up with multiple billers and give your customers a choice? Or better still, use a cascade?

Or, Get setup with Google Analytics, insert the GA code into your CCBill account (which I never knew they supported before), setup CCBill as a "goal", and watch your traffic flow.

Dig Deeper. Assuming its the billers problem is an easy mistake to make.

Hey Mark Prince great job as always championing the cause for billers:thumbsup

I had to explain to one of several customers recently who contacted us about having good cards and good funds and not being able to transact...

Hi Sarah :)
[4/26/2012 12:47:36 PM] John: I tried to buy a session but it was denied again. Its a little late for me to wait now, but so you know there still is a problem
[4/26/2012 12:48:17 PM] John: sorry, Sara

I explained to my customer John that him not being able to use his valid credit cards at my site would never possibly impact or cause low sales!

My foolish customer needs to understand that if I can get my hands on the new and improved high approval transaction yield *modem* from comcast he would have better luck at getting an approval.

those new *high yield* modems kick ass and are built for success! I have heard they can show gains of 350% in sales approvals!

Dirty F 05-04-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 18913458)
Why does everything decrease accept the hits to the join forms?

If tube sites, keywords rankings, piracy,pass word sites,file sharing sites, global warming, tax season,recession, and what ever clever cutting edge ideas we assert were affecting sales....

Wouldn't logic dictate to everyone that if you were seeing traffic decreases, affiliate decreases, sales decreases, wouldn't you expect to see decreases in form hits?

All I can confirm is increased uniques, increased keywords, increased affiliates,better key word rankings, increased *FORM HITS* ......................and *DECREASED FORM SUBMISSIONS

I would have thought form hits would drop off with the drop off of everything else, but for some reason more and more customers are making it to the join form than ever.

All i can confirm is that you are a total fucking nutjob who needs medication.
Fucking retard. You're like the new Spacedog but even more retarded.

Dirty F 05-04-2012 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18929060)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

She is being sarcastic. Did you miss here bi-daily threads about conspiracies? (mainly targetting here specifically)
She thinks the banks and ccbill and what not are after her. There is some big conpiracy going on.
She totally messed in her head.

SwirlsGirl 05-04-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18929174)
She is being sarcastic. Did you miss here bi-daily threads about conspiracies? (mainly targetting here specifically)
She thinks the banks and ccbill and what not are after her. There is some big conpiracy going on.
She totally messed in her head.

Hey Dirty F... I heard there is a new HIGH YIELD Transaction approval digital modem that has hit the market that can boost your sales by boosting your internet signal and connection!
Too bad I did not know about this new product when I had the below conversation with a recurring member/fan/friend :)

Mark H: CC bill said that you can only submit a credit card once every 24 hours...IM Mar 22, 2012 11:47:27 PM11:27:16 PM
Mark H: hold on... trying another card.11:27:37 PM

amyblueeyes32000: did they give you a denial email....we really are curious about this because we have it set to accept multiple sessions per day11:27:56 PM

Mark H: yes I got an email...11:28:14 PM

amyblueeyes32000: please send me that email asap11:29:07 PM

amyblueeyes32000: that is very disturbing to hear because we have had enough customers lately try and do a phone session and ccbill gives them a denial with good and valid cards...we are going to have to take this up with ccbill11:29:46 PM

Mark H: i will use another card... hold onl11:31:34 PM

amyblueeyes32000: thats fine, but if you would be so kind I will need to see that email denial that they gave you, don't worry your info will stay private and confidential, but we will need to see that, because we never got an email, and we should be getting emails on every denial11:32:06 PM

amyblueeyes32000: I hope you understand it will help us improve our ability to satisfy customers11:32:08 PM

Mark H: ok...11:32:17 PM

Mark H: hold on babe11:32:34 PM

amyblueeyes32000: no worries take your time, as I am still getting ready11:32:36 PM

Mark H: email to amyblueeyes32000011:36:18 PM

Mark H: did you get the email11:36:43 PM

amyblueeyes32000: no I did not sweetie, did you send it to saraluvsblk@11:37:00 PM

Mark H: no... amyblueeyes11:37:11 PM

amyblueeyes32000: ooops...LOL okay let me check11:40:04 PM

***EMAIL RECEIVED*** Greetings Mark H. we have blocked your transaction to saraswirls.com for your own protection. We can approve this transaction if you call and verify a few details. Please call ccbill web verify to approve this transaction!

amyblueeyes32000: okay MArk, thank you so much for that!!!!!!!!! I definitely needed that...and as I suspected we did not get that email, please pardon me for a few moments as I have to make a very important call to my site manager and have this addressed....don't worry I still plan on doing the show, just have to take care of business for a sec this is quite urgent and I hope you understand11:40:29 PM

Mark H: of course...11:44:55 PM

amyblueeyes32000: hey did you try another credit card or was this the second credit card11:45:26 PM

Mark H: i tried the second one but havent recieved an email yet.11:45:38 PM

amyblueeyes32000: did it get approved or denied11:46:11 PM

Mark H: now I am not sure...11:47:27 PM

Mark Hennessy: I put in a second card but didn't not get a confirmation or decline email like before

Mark Hennessy: Im not sure what else I can do11:51:47 PM

amyblueeyes32000: well would you be willing to call on a 3 way call with my husband so we can hear what ccbill says? According to the email they want you to call and verify that you are trying to make a purchase...it some new feature that they started that is causing a bunch of trouble11:52:40 PM

Mark H: I did call them... and they said there is nothing they can do... it will only work after 24 hours...11:53:58 PM

amyblueeyes32000: wow baby im trying to situate it 11:54:27 PM

Mark H: its not your fault... they just don't know your power to get us cucks..

So glad the adult community has a Mark Prince and a Dirty F to come in and convince everyone that traffic and content are what causes declined and denied transactions...

Now if they can blame failed transactions on content and traffic...then they should be able to with a straight face accept the new High Yield Transaction Approval Modem that I heard about:thumbsup


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