Just some observations regarding the "Killing off File Lockers" thread
 

1: I'm willing to bet 90% of the people in that thread have their harddrive full with illegally downloaded games, software and music. But hey as long as it's not porn then it's no problem right? Fucking bunch of hypocrites. You make me sick!
2: Most of you think you will get your sales back when a bunch of filelockers are gone...dream on idiots. Maybe a few real big programs will notice a difference but 99% of you won't see 1 extra sale. So you can stop jerking off to that idea.
3: Adultking can't go on forever...the minute he stops (and that will happen eventually) all those filelockers will be back. Basically it's a big waste of time. But hey, if he feels like doing it, good for him. I personally don't give a rats ass.
4: DWB is on every fucking page screaming and crying and bitching. This is the same guy who, a couple of years ago, defended some of the biggest carders in the history of the adult internet with his life. Look at him having so much ethics now...the bullshit is almost dripping out of my screen.
5: Robbie...a total fucking nobody...like really a nobody, just another white trash idiot with a shitty site, acts like he runs the fucking internet. Wtf? Seriously, wtf? Who the fuck does this imbecile think he is?

Carry on...

1.No such things here.I even deleted content which i paid for but didn't got license for it.
2.Correct,but hey 15$ is 15$ extra :1orglaugh
3.Depend which direction he will go-if he involve other industries people,then possibilities are endless
4.I do know DWB was deep in ass incredible dollars carders,but he is no longer involved with them.Dont see point to keep repeating someone mistake of years ago.Almost nobody is fully clean in this industry.
5.No comment

Someone in the thread is moaning because he won't be getting paid this month. LOL

If it achieves anything noticeable it will turn into the replacement business model for all the content removal services. Someone will keep doing it, for a fee.

You showed up real quick after Tijuana_Tom was banned. Odd.

Nice sig by the way. Only a child abuser would enjoy watching a little girl get kicked to the ground and think it's funny. Hence your hatred for the File Locker thread, I'm sure. No need to explain yourself, it is obvious now.


Franck loves to hold onto that one from years ago. It's all he has. Sad really.

Morals are so meable, everyone should already know that.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

This can go on indefinitely as within the week there will be a fully functioning collaboration system with real people involved in the effort, not just my few staff and existing volunteers.

Secondly later this week the campaign will be incorporated into a legal structure so that this can go on without me so long as someone is willing to take the reigns when I am gone.

Thirdly, the psychological effect of what's happening is enormous.

Fourth and last. You don't know what else I have planned out, killing off file lockers is nothing to what is going to come later. You'll just have to wait and see.

You're gonna take the internet offline?

I guess it's a good thing you are doing but i'm just afraid you will be fucking with the wrong person sooner or later man. You're fighting against the scum of the internet and not over a few 100 dollars either. I hope you spend some of your donations on security.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

Well,when it comes to internet majority of people are just keyboard warriors,just look at Chris Malick example,so much money lost people on epass yet he still walks like nothing happened and everyone knows where he lives.

surrender monkey

Yes, but this is the other way around. It's not the scum taking money from the "normal" people.

just out of curiosity, what method(s) do you think would have better results than what he is doing?

Huh? No clue? Seems like he is doing a good job?

I think youre hell bent on hating franck.

Id be very very surprised to find out Franck was TT.

As for the girl gif... come on man thats grasping. It was in no way child abuse and i certainly wouldnt make the connection based on that gif.

Why are you mad at franck anyway? Is this still going back to the incredible dollars bullshit?

Ofcourse i'm not TT. I logged in today for the first time since i left 2 months ago or so or whatever. Yes, he's grasping. It's sad.

The main reason I dont think youre TT besides the fact that youre not an idiot is TT insulted me and even if pretending, I dont think youd say that shit to me.

I didn't read more than 1 or 2 of his posts. But i guess you're right.

Sure mister...

I usually ignore him until he starts up with that old ass "DWB supported carders" bullshit from years ago that has been discussed to death from every angle you can discuss it. The dude has serious issues. Never seen a someone living in the past like this guy, and about nonsense with people he doesn't even know or will ever meet. So when he brings it up (which is fairly often - obsessive tendencies) and I'm in the mood to deal with his trollin' ass, I hand it right back to him.

And no, putting a little girl getting kicked on an adult forum is not grasping. That is way out of line for a porn forum. Who thinks that sort of thing is funny anyway? Zero humor in that gif.


Never underestimate an anonymous internet troll. The mere fact he did insult you is enough to make you think it was not him, which was exactly the smart thing to do. The writing styles and what they talked about are VERY similar. Not to mention, that loser is the only person who repeatedly brings up things about how "unethical" something is and how I make porn in a country where it is illegal. No one else talks about both of those, repeatedly, except for Franck. And how convenient Franck pops up two days after TT was banned. It is also note worthy that longdongsilver started posting a lot the day TT was banned and almost shut totally up when Franck came back today. All have very similar writing and board habits. But that is the thing about anonymous trolls, you never know who is who and who is copying someone else to make others think they are them.

IMHO I think you you've been trolled. :2 cents:

Successful troll is successful.

Of course that is what you would say. You're a troll.

And I'm grasping? :1orglaugh Who KEEPS bring up shit from 3 or 4 years ago?

You have issues kid. :2 cents:

I dunno, i have considered it... but i dont think after our history that franck would insult me especially since he knows full well I do more than design and never really designed for him anyway. All code and what not.

While yOu say its the same rhetoric ... I say it doesnt sound like Franck at all.

Maybe Im naive, but I just dont see it.

If my political analysis of this situation is correct, time is going to bear out AdultKing.

I think the difference he is making will FOREVER change things.

The play to watch is VISA/MC if they get involved its game over.

Don't start up with false assumptions again, i am not Frank.

Trolls, trolls trolls, anyone is a troll who apparently does not fall into line with what the majority on one thread wants to hear.

Strangely my login wasn't working yesterday at all, i tested it about 20 times.... but i wasn't banned.

You seem okay but don't start up with the false assumptions again. You tried to label me and anyone else as fans of child abuse and warez because we were not fully supporting AK, you simply can't be allowed to make claims like that. If you make sense of the world by making extensions like that inside your mind - just keep it there since sooner or later it will get you in a lot of trouble with someone that doesn't like to has those kind of insinuations leveled at them.

So long as you voice your disapproval of the full scene tube model then you must be sort of okay, but don't spout shit about people based on nothing other than your guess work.

Now DF and uploading are getting slapped down, i see something slightly worth while happening here, so i have just wanted to wait and give it some time as other have suggested. However i will always comment when i see thieves trying to condemn other thieves just to look good, whilst the rest applaud i will say as i wish.

yeah so those of us that do the right thing should all give up and be an apathetic gimp like you franck should we ?


instead of doing something proactive we should be on gfy with our 500th nick ?

You display your ignorance by the tone you take and the name calling. I claim you have 600 nicks. So there !

What is the point of such a comment??

I just told you i have 1 nick, unless you can prove otherwise your claim means NOTHING.

If you believe taking down these lockers will increase your rev then that's great, and perhaps it will to a small degree. I was simply trying to say let's focus on the tubes first. That's not apathy, that's my view. If you don't agree, they say why in a reasonable way that can be debated or else just say nothing.

If you think its 'the right thing' to allow crooks to try and look good by calling out other crooks, then sadly i disagree with you there too.

Someone has a sig, I forget who, which says that if Hypocrisy were a virus, the internet would crash. With that said, does mere hypocrisy invalidate one's rights?

bingo.

anyone who might have been a real issue got their money im sure

Most people that buy porn don't know what a file locker is or just has a fetish that needs satisfying.. :upsidedow

People also do drugs, drive drunk, speed on the freeway. So what the fuck does that mean...

DWB sounds like a pretty cool guy, but he could be a big douche bag too. aTleast he doesn't ruin threads like that PM guy does.

You may not be. But you do sound a lot like him and everyone seems to be popping up when the other is not. Odd coincidence.

No, a troll is someone who comes out of nowhere to attack others and hides behind their nick in total anonymity. Like you did with AK. That is why I called you a troll. Not because your opinion differs than mine, but because the method in which you were posting, even threatening to "not allow" AK to do what he was doing and you were going to wake the people up. Really, just not necessary.


Life is simple. Piracy is not a complex issue. Either you support it or you don't. However, this isn't so much about piracy and is more about child porn hosted within the file lockers. Again, simple. How can anyone be against any effort to rid the lockers of such content, or shut them down? There should not be 2nd chances for any site caught with child porn. Period.

This is a black or white issue. No gray area. You support it or you don't, which has to make me question why you don't. You have no real basis to call AK a "shill" or say he has alternative motives. And even if he does, who fucking cares? What's it to you? Are you even in the business? If so, who are you?

I could care less about the reason. He's getting the job done.


I think giving away full scenes for free on tubes is the single handed most idiotic thing we've ever done as an industry. It was not necessary. At the time when people starting giving it away, people were still paying for porn. But they fucked that up. So yea, I hate that model. It should be clips. I hope someone can find a weakness in the tubes (with pirated content) and go after them next. I doubt it will happen, but you never know. A month ago I didn't think I would see file lockers having their ass handed to them.

You know, I just really hate these shit stains, most of who are either not in the business or don't belong in it, or too big a coward to let you know who they are, popping up and trying to derail the efforts of people who are trying to do good things. And I hate pussy pirates and those who support them and make non-stop excuses for piracy. I would peel the skin off of GideonGallery if I knew I would get away with it. If you're a pirate, just fucking own it and say it. Hike up your skirt, stop dancing around, and own it. "I'm a pirate." Or "I support piracy." You'd get a boat load more respect from me than being a cop out, side stepping, bitch. At least we'd all know where each of us stand.

I've put more people on ignore over the past week than I have in my history at GFY, all of them trying to derail AKs threads. This guy is has made more ground than ANY effort EVER in the history of our business, and anonymous troll pricks want to come here, on an industry forum, and question his motives and bust his balls. Fuck them. I'm far from a douche bag, but I'm not going to take their shit, especially from someone who hides behind their computer like a pansie ass, and most of all, from someone who doesn't even have any skin in the game to begin with.

If you don't own content or other intellectual property that is being pirated on the lockers, then stay the fuck out of AK's way. You have no skin in the game, so you have no right to run your mouth.

well, OK then :Graucho

The other points you made we've discussed before. I commented on the motives behind Ak and his campaign. You say they make no difference, i don't agree. I guess if he does kill of every locker then it will be useful in some way and that's therefore a good thing. I see some very large lockers losing PP so my early claims nothing would happen were wrong. I already congratulated him on this. If he does not start with tubes next then that will open questions since he already stated he is doing this for the good of the industry.

I am not Frank. The odd coincidence only makes sense in your mind since there is nothing stopping the same person posting posting under many nicks at the same time.

"giving away full scenes for free on tubes is the single handed most idiotic thing we've ever done as an industry"

more like...

"stealing other peoples hard work and using it to destroy their business and take away every other possible revenue stream open to them is the single handed most evil thing a few people have done in this industry"

tubes = very easy to find and use for casual surfers, directly steal traffic, directly inhibit sign ups, directly steal cams, dating and all other revenue streams. Everyone i ask knows and uses tubes, only a few have heard of even the largest filelockers.

lockers= not so easy to find and use (forums full of dead links joining rars), take some traffic, take some sign ups, they themselves don't have cams or adult dating adds.

As i have said before, you seem okay, i just think a little too pro locker termination and a little too easy on tube justice. That's it. I hope if AK does go after tubes you will be as frequent a poster on that thread as you are on the lockers one.

Afuckingmen :thumbsup

Just a note about taking on tubes, it's going to take a long time to cut down the file locker industry to the point where I will be happy that we have seriously and irrevocably damaged it.

The same goes with big file lockers, they take time, all of this is time consuming. It's not as simple as say , hey look at this site Paypal. We need to present some evidence so that Paypal have the grounds to expend their manpower to investigate themselves and I can tell you they carry out a far better standard of detailed forensic investigation than we do.

So between the time we notice a site, to the time we start work on it, then to the time we have a report ready it's already taken many man hours. Then Paypal have to investigate and that takes many more man hours.

At the moment we're doing over file lockers, that's a good start and we're learning alot from it every day. Once I am happy that we have mitigated the problems the file locker industry causes then you can talk to me about the "next step".

I'd prefer to see them both gone. The problem is, no one has yet found the true Achilles Heel for the tubes, but it was found for the lockers, so that is currently where the focus is.

Tubes are not easy because so long as the comply with DMCA, which is removing the content when they get the notice, they get a legal pass for now. Someone has to find another crack to break their back. However, there are a few possibilities that I'm not going to discuss here that may cause some problems for some smaller guys. But the big boys have covered their asses very well. That said, everyone makes mistakes.

No one is going to sue them because most of the people who are in a position to sue them have tubes of their own, or are just wanting a settlement. So if you want to do something about tubes, you have to find another way. But as it stands, they are within the law so long as they don't get caught uploading the content. But even if they do, who is going to sue them? Pink Visual again? Settlement. Since no one has gone the distance in a law suit and set a real precedent, this is where we stand. But all it takes is one company to do that and win, and it's game on.

2257 Documentation......

the Tubes Achilles Heel.

dirty f logic:
dirt can not be eliminated...once the maid stops cleaning the dirt returns...cleaning is a big waste of time....




quick go put that wisdom to some good use and make some money, do it now, while you still know everything! :1orglaugh you are too smart for us go and make $$$$

Yes, that side of it should certainly be made difficult for them.

It would be better to call out every single sponsor who either buys or sells pre-checked cross sells b/c they drive away paying customers. Eliminating file lockers just makes things more difficult for those who likely would have never purchased anything.

It's a US law dumbass.

I highly doubt that any person who normally pays for porn suddenly stops doing that (at the original site) and spends his time searching the forums for download links for content for that site and then eventually pays for that through Paypal.
The stop filelocker thread is so popular because it's full of people who think they will get sales like it's 1999 if the filelockers stop working. Once again, they won't.

Targetting shady/hidden xsells would for sure have a way bigger impact. The amount of paying customers who got screwed over by programs most of people on gfy are pushing has to be gigantic. We're talking about people who before didn't have a problem pulling their card but after being hit by 150 dollars in charges for a $2.95 signup they will now never pay for porn again. But that seems to be no problem whatsoever for all the idiots in the filelocker thread. They keep pushing sites like that while hoping that killing filelockers will result in getting better sales again. I'm pretty fucking sure that people who download porn from filelockers wouldn't sign up for a porn site in the first place and have never done so. It was never your potential customer or lost customer.
The existing customers however are screwed over like crazy because you idiots want 50 dollar payouts for every sale. And will never return again.

This industry is full of idiots. It's scary.

what are you talking about. is everyone on gfy a fucking utter moron ?

i dont support piracy and im not a fan of guys with 500 nicks like franck

that was my point idiot and ill say it however the fuck i want

Piss off gaylord. I haven't used a fake nick in ages.

Fiddy gaylord fake nicks.

:pimp