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Gozarian 07-26-2012 02:05 PM

Time to rankle feathers
 
Just curious how many primary producers dont let models see or read contracts and then forged models names on those contracts?

Cam sites that require or have required hard copy contracts, I guarantee 75% plus of live interactive studio's contracts are forged. Do you give a shit?

Gozarian 07-26-2012 02:10 PM

I know which sites are in possession of tons of forged model contracts yet the remain curiously silent.

L-Pink 07-26-2012 02:18 PM

I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to admit they do business that way. But then again ...

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georgeyw 07-26-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19082647)
I know which sites are in possession of tons of forged model contracts yet the remain curiously silent.

Imagine if all the police had to do to find thieves was to put a big sign in the street with 'did you steal this' on it.

peterk 07-26-2012 03:02 PM

hmm why wouldn't a cam site just hold the first check till they receive the hard copy? doesn't seem to be a reason why a cam site would need to forge anything they would rather keep the check.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 03:15 PM

those hardcopies that come form Romania are ALL forged by studio bosses. A model NEVER sees a contract much less read or signs. And that my friend is an etched in stone fact.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-26-2012 03:17 PM

Ok let's say we believe you... Then what happens next?

Gozarian 07-26-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 19082755)
Ok let's say we believe you... Then what happens next?

As I operate in Romania i dare say i do know what is transpiring here. Choose to believe or not but it is fact.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 03:27 PM

What happens next I dont know Im just trying to get some ears to gain traction with those that wish to put head in sand. This entire industry seems to be dominated by liars,cons, scammers and whores and it is beginning to piss me off

Gozarian 07-26-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19082733)
hmm why wouldn't a cam site just hold the first check till they receive the hard copy? doesn't seem to be a reason why a cam site would need to forge anything they would rather keep the check.

Cams sites are receiving forged contracts not doing it themselves. They are selectively clueless as to what is transpiring. A few still require hard copy contracts - most have moved to online signatures which is impossible to show the docs are forged. ;) ;)

Gozarian 07-26-2012 04:17 PM

Just as I thought - silence speaks volumes ;);)

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-26-2012 04:54 PM

I'm not trying to say you are lying. I have nothing to do with webcams.

xXXtesy10 07-26-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19082636)
Just curious how many primary producers dont let models see or read contracts and then forged models names on those contracts?

Cam sites that require or have required hard copy contracts, I guarantee 75% plus of live interactive studio's contracts are forged. Do you give a shit?

Thinking of a new business venture already?

Gozarian 07-26-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 19082907)
Thinking of a new business venture already?

??? nu inteles (not understand) I've been in this for sometime and dont plan on departing anytime soon :winkwink:

xXXtesy10 07-26-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19082912)
??? nu inteles (not understand) I've been in this for sometime and dont plan on departing anytime soon :winkwink:

I know you have. Read it again. :1orglaugh

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 19082904)
I'm not trying to say you are lying. I have nothing to do with webcams.

There is one thing I do NOT do and that is lie especially to my performers.

xXXtesy10 07-26-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19082917)
There is one thing I do NOT do and that is lie especially to my performers.

Ok bro... Move along to the sainthood thread.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:07 PM

far from saint but def not scumbag :1orglaugh

NaughtyRob 07-26-2012 05:18 PM

Solution, only deal with reputable producers.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:20 PM

i AM THE PRODUCER others are producers are doing this and one would think the sites would have a modicum of concern

Dead 07-26-2012 05:21 PM

Offer them dental?
Or offer full discloser, both options will not be used.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:22 PM

DirtyWhiteBoy - "Since when did an industry full of felons, crooks, thieves, scammers and other criminals start worrying about the rules?

so fucking true

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:26 PM

Offer them dental - with work contract they are covered by the free health care in this country :)) although it is right out of the 1960s - you get what you pay for

Robbie 07-26-2012 05:34 PM

Cam pimps lying to girls who could just sign up to do cams for the cam site themselves instead of using a "studio"?

Say it ain't so!

Gozarian 07-26-2012 05:51 PM

not only lying Robbie but forging contracts too - the girls never see them or even know that they exist

Robbie 07-26-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19082985)
not only lying Robbie but forging contracts too - the girls never see them or even know that they exist

My guess is so the girls never know what the actual pay is.

Dead 07-26-2012 06:17 PM

While we are at it, court appoint them a lawyer, and ask them if they will pay the tax to be represented by said official? Man I am not poking the bear, but this is up to the model to run their business the way they see fit. In the end this is business.

Gozarian 07-26-2012 06:46 PM

get a clue

Gozarian 07-26-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19082988)
My guess is so the girls never know what the actual pay is.

They do know they pay !!!

Dead 07-26-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19083064)
get a clue

Could I get an A captainsaveaho?

Gozarian 07-26-2012 08:02 PM

whatever mr. garcia :))))))

mce 07-26-2012 08:36 PM

Is this a line from a comedy?

Gozarian 07-27-2012 01:31 AM

no he has a pic of jerry garcia as his avatar :))


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