Casino sues gamblers who won $1.5m
 

A casino is suing a group of gamblers who won $1.5million in a game of mini-baccarat after a deck of unshuffled cards landed 41 winning hands in a row.

The Golden Nugget Atlantic City is refusing to pay the players their winnings even though they broke no rules.

It claims the game was illegal because the cards were unshuffled, despite a promise from their manufacturer that they would be pre-shuffled and ready to use.

The fiasco took place during a low-stakes version of the popular card game where players are dealt hands while trying to predict if they will beat the banker.

But when the 14 players kept seeing the same sequence of cards dealt, over and over and over again, their eyes grew wide and their bets grew bigger, growing from $10 a hand to $5,000.

They became surrounded by casino security guards and management who were convinced they had cheated but unable to prove how.

The April 30 incident was the latest instance of unshuffled cards causing big headaches for an Atlantic City casino.

In December, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort used unshuffled mini-baccarat cards for 3 1/2 hours before realizing something was wrong.

That episode led to a $91,000 fine against the casino, which fired nine people it said were involved.

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Sounds like a problem between the casino and their card supplier not the winning customers.

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Yeah, why aren't they suing the card supplier who promised they would be shuffled?
Bro's before Ho's?

their saying the players should have reported the problem. :1orglaugh

Thats another problem with casino's they don't want to pay out even when its their fuck up.

Sounds like the pit boss wasn't doing his job.

Exactly. They should sue the card manufacturer.

lol casinos always try to eliminate winnings, fuck you, pay them, and sue card company

I believe they are suing both the players and the supplier of the cards.

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The gfy grammar police has arrived :sleep

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yeah, I'd get right on that

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Clicking the link I got:
The Golden Nugget Atlantic City claims the game was illegal because the cards were unshuffled
It is also suing card manufacturer Gemaco, Inc. who had promised the cards would be pre-shuffled and ready to use
As the same card sequences appeared, the 14 players increased their bets from $10 to $5,000
The casino believed 'a sophisticated swindling and cheating scheme' was in progress but could not prove
Three gamblers also claim the casino discriminated against them based on their Chinese heritage


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz24CEVRXby

1) Casino fault
2) Casino fault not a player issue
3) If the glove don't fit you have to.....
4) Racist.

Come gamble in Atlantic City! Where keeping your winnings is even a gamble

That pit boss is probably being beaten as we speak and rightfully so. What a fucking moron.

Then nobody should ever go there ever again. That will soon change their mind... :2 cents:

Question, why aren't the cards shuffled right there at the table? If they can come from the supplier set in such a way that the casino loses 41 hands in a row then the reverse must also be true. That the cards could have the casino win 41 in a row.

I would think the gaming commission would require all cards be shuffled in front of customers both for the customers mental benefit and to keep the real crooks, casinos, from cheating.

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Surely if there is even a risk mistakes like this could happen, that they would always shuffle them themselves anyway? Strange...

THe "House" always wins :disgust

Casinos are money making machines, nothing more.

I'm not sure if its legal/ethical etc for a casino to decide halfway through the shoe to reshuffle when things aren't going their way. Certainly the customers can't ask for a new shoe when they're losing.

I had a college professor once tell me that people who are quick to point out grammar or spelling errors and fail to answer or retort are the ones with no points of view or thoughts of their own--I would tend to agree.

You are better than this.. grow up.

Could they shut down a table mid shoe?

He was a smart guy :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Fuck casinos. They have no problem raking in billions but can't do a payout with their own fuck ups?

Fire alarm.

Slip and fall in the lobby? Cha ching.

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IOW an admission there is no legitimate way to win. All you need to know about casinos right there.

It is. They can reshuffle whenever they like.

I imagine the dealer is right next to him.

almost 42

So I presume they will be refunding all the players that lost money playing with these unshuffled packs also!!

At least with the dealer I can see him letting things go on after he saw the sequence continuing, because I'm sure he was being tipped nicely. However, I have no idea how the floor manager (pit boss) would not have been contacted by surveillance, went over to the table, and requested the cards be washed (heavy shuffling) at least sometime well before 41 straight wins occurred. I've seen a pit boss introduce new decks into a blackjack game well before they were due, simply because the players were on a hot streak.

This is the first I've heard of decks coming pre shuffled from the manufacturer and being thrown directly in a game. I've always seen them shuffled at the table, whether by the dealer or shuffle machine. Is this something that is only done in Baccarat?

nope :1orglaugh

I just heared about those...can really one win that huge amount.....beyond my imagine....

I've never heard of this practice before. Every time i've played baccarat, the cards are shuffled at the table. Honestly, i'm sure it's all kosher, but i don't think i'd ever sit at a table with a pre-shuffled deck.

ps. your misleading sig image is misleading :winkwink:

How the dealer didn't notice is beyond me. I've won a large stack of chips before at Roulette, the pit boss took one look at the stack and realized it was one short. How any dealer could continue not thinking something was wrong, or a pit boss not seeing it, just baffles me.

Really hate CASINOS, they are the biggest SCAM business in the World...

When you lose money, everything is ok..

But when you start winning, they send you security guards to intmidate you and kick you out of CASINO, What the FUCK?

Just check the movie "21"... True Story...

Just wow lol

I have seen many games at casinos reshuffle decks to ensure randomization of the chute.

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Other thing that struck me as odd is it mentioned 14 players, I've never seen that many sitting at a baccarat table, usually its just 6 or so max. Unless it was referring to the total number of players that played during the streak, (some left and others sat), but why would someone get up if they were winning every hand.

duh to try to cash out and run :2 cents: :1orglaugh

a good pit boss would have spotted this in less than an hour
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I've seen a casino reshuffle after EVERY HAND for a blackjack player that was a known card counter. He got tired of it and moved to a new casino, which was probably their goal.

Also, players can get up and move to a different table / casino whenever they'd like, they don't have to ask for a new shoe.