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Rochard 08-29-2012 12:31 PM

Mitt Romney's Yacht
 
I'm sure Mitt Romney is "just like everyone else". You know, my friends and I always roll up (float up?) with my yacht which is registered in... The Cayman Islands.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/..._120829_wg.jpg

Quote:

Gov. Mitt Romney's campaign toasted its top donors Wednesday aboard a 150-foot yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands.

The floating party, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht "Cracker Bay," was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid.

"I think it's ironic they do this aboard a yacht that doesn't even pay its taxes," said a woman who lives aboard a much smaller boat moored at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina.

Romney's Cayman-based investments have come under fire during the campaign.

The event, attended by no more than 50 people, along with Romney relatives, including older brother Scott, appeared on no public calendars. ABC News obtained a schedule of the Romney campaign's "Victory Council" and waited dockside to speak with members.

"It was a really nice event. These are good supporters," said billionaire Wilbur Ross, an energy industry executive.
(source: ABC News)

epitome 08-29-2012 12:33 PM

LOL that is pretty fucking funny. They didn't even bother to take down the flag. He needs better PR flacks who can see something like that and imagine the trouble that lies ahead.

Rochard 08-29-2012 12:33 PM

Which reminds me of one of my favorite videos...


kristin 08-29-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19152315)
LOL that is pretty fucking funny. They didn't even bother to take down the flag. He needs better PR flacks who can see something like that and imagine the trouble that lies ahead.

Bad PR is the only thing keeping Mitt's name in the media.

topsiteking 08-29-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19152319)
Bad PR is the only thing keep Mitt's name in the media.

:2 cents:

Rochard 08-29-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19152315)
LOL that is pretty fucking funny. They didn't even bother to take down the flag. He needs better PR flacks who can see something like that and imagine the trouble that lies ahead.

I don't think they can take down the flag. The boat is registered in the Cayman Islands and must fly the flag - He (they, whatever) can't just change it to a US flag.

You would think someone on his staff would have said "Gee, maybe we shouldn't be throwing a party on a boat registered in the same country where Romney has his tax shelters hidden". I don't mean to bash Romney but you would think someone would have applied common sense here.

bronco67 08-29-2012 12:36 PM

kind of ironic the boat is named "Cracker Bay".

Sly 08-29-2012 12:37 PM

The floating party, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht "Cracker Bay," was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid.

epitome 08-29-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152325)
I don't think they can take down the flag. The boat is registered in the Cayman Islands and must fly the flag - He (they, whatever) can't just change it to a US flag.

You would think someone on his staff would have said "Gee, maybe we shouldn't be throwing a party on a boat registered in the same country where Romney has his tax shelters hidden". I don't mean to bash Romney but you would think someone would have applied common sense here.

You can still fly a smaller flag.

Plus the guy is guarded by the secret service. It's not like someone would say "zomg, they just took down the flag, let's investigate!" The secret service would say "sorry, this is a secure zone and you are getting nowhere near this boat."

Rochard 08-29-2012 12:39 PM

Seems the boat doesn't belong to Mitt... But that doesn't change much.

Quote:

The Cracker Bay is owned by Gary Morse, developer of the Villages retirement community.

epitome 08-29-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19152319)
Bad PR is the only thing keep Mitt's name in the media.

I <3 smart gingers!

kristin 08-29-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19152334)
I <3 smart gingers!

So smart I used "keep" instead of "keeping." Heh.

epitome 08-29-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 19152349)
So smart I used "keep" instead of "keeping." Heh.

Smart AND beautiful gingers get a little extra wiggle room for minor mistakes such as that. :thumbsup

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 12:54 PM

When people point out that Romney is wealthy are they implying that Obama isn't also filthy rich?

They're all millionaires who don't give a fuck about regular Americans.

MaDalton 08-29-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152333)
Seems the boat doesn't belong to Mitt... But that doesn't change much.

considering Gary Morse is a hardcore Republican and a dictator of his own community, it doesnt make it much better. it just shows the hypocrisy of Republicans in general

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StickyGreen 08-29-2012 01:07 PM

It's a bad thing to try and avoid taxes?

You people really believe the government needs to take away our money in order for it to operate, don't you? lol

You probably don't even realize why the IRS was created in 1913, the same year that the Federal Reserve was created. I'll tell you why. It's because your income taxes pay for the interest on the money loaned to our government from the Federal Reseve. The government does not need to take your hard earned money in order to operate, they have the Federal Reserve print up as much money as they need out of thin air whenever they want, as well as thousands of other taxes.

But this is just crazy talk to you brainwashed Americans, you love handing over your hard earned wages to your government, you probably do it with a smile on your face.

epitome 08-29-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19152394)
It's a bad thing to try and avoid taxes?

You people really believe the government needs to take away our money in order for it to operate, don't you? lol

You probably don't even realize why the IRS was created in 1913, the same year that the Federal Reserve was created. I'll tell you why. It's because your income taxes pay for the interest on the money loaned to our government from the Federal Reseve. The government does not need to take your hard earned money in order to operate, they have the Federal Reserve print up as much money as they need out of thin air whenever they want, as well as thousands of other taxes.

But this is just crazy talk to you brainwashed Americans, you love handing over your hard earned wages to your government, you probably do it with a smile on your face.

So they have to pay the Federal Reserve interest but they can also have the Federal Reserve print money for free? Alrighty then.

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19152405)
So they have to pay the Federal Reserve interest but they can also have the Federal Reserve print money for free? Alrighty then.

You seem to have reading comprehension problems.

I never said they can have the Federal Reserve print the money "for free."

I said they can have the FED print the money out of thin air whenever they want.

The interest still has to be paid and that is where the income tax comes in.

Also, the part about "thousands of other taxes" is important because those taxes actually do fund the government's operations, while the income tax simply pays the FED interest.

Theo 08-29-2012 01:18 PM

Owner of the yacht Is Morse

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-villages.html

Rochard 08-29-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19152394)
It's a bad thing to try and avoid taxes?

You people really believe the government needs to take away our money in order for it to operate, don't you? lol

You probably don't even realize why the IRS was created in 1913, the same year that the Federal Reserve was created. I'll tell you why. It's because your income taxes pay for the interest on the money loaned to our government from the Federal Reseve. The government does not need to take your hard earned money in order to operate, they have the Federal Reserve print up as much money as they need out of thin air whenever they want, as well as thousands of other taxes.

But this is just crazy talk to you brainwashed Americans, you love handing over your hard earned wages to your government, you probably do it with a smile on your face.

Is it a bad thing to try to avoid taxes? Well, yes, yes it is.

Don't get me wrong, I do the best I can to avoid paying taxes. However, I'm not running for President of the United States. If your running for President of the United States, you should be a model citizen - not hiding your money or banging your maid.

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152436)
Is it a bad thing to try to avoid taxes? Well, yes, yes it is.

Don't get me wrong, I do the best I can to avoid paying taxes. However, I'm not running for President of the United States. If your running for President of the United States, you should be a model citizen - not hiding your money or banging your maid.

If "you're" running for President you should be a model citizen?

lol, good luck with that, most presidents are total dirtbag sleazeballs, this is why they are so easily blackmailed by their corporate masters.

Rochard 08-29-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19152463)
If "you're" running for President you should be a model citizen?

lol, good luck with that, most presidents are total dirtbag sleazeballs, this is why they are so easily blackmailed by their corporate masters.

Hey, Clinton was getting blown in the Oval Office by some slut.... I'm sure they all are. Once you reach that level... You get blown every day by some slut.

I'm just saying that if your running for prez, you shouldn't be throwing parties on a yacht that is registered as a tax shelter.

baddog 08-29-2012 01:53 PM

Some of you crack me up.

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152487)
Hey, Clinton was getting blown in the Oval Office by some slut.... I'm sure they all are. Once you reach that level... You get blown every day by some slut.

I'm just saying that if your running for prez, you shouldn't be throwing parties on a yacht that is registered as a tax shelter.

You can't blackmail someone over something that is known publicly.

Clinton had much worse skeletons in his closet, they all do.

PornoMonster 08-29-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152436)
Is it a bad thing to try to avoid taxes? Well, yes, yes it is.

Don't get me wrong, I do the best I can to avoid paying taxes. However, I'm not running for President of the United States. If your running for President of the United States, you should be a model citizen - not hiding your money or banging your maid.

You think Obama doesn't take all the tax breaks he can?

Sure he talks big about everyone should pay more including him, but he wont volunteer that money until he HAS to. Thus, same as taking all the breaks you can till it isn't legal.

Blame the game not the players..

How much has Romney donated to charities, how much has Obama?
You can look at numbers and stuff from a million different angles.

How much did Mitt pay total in taxes how much did Obama? Well I guess I don't think Mitt has released his taxes yet.

Redrob 08-29-2012 02:06 PM

Somebody posted that Mitt doesn't want to release his taxes because he has been holding out on the tithing to the Mormon Church and not giving his percentage.

Mitt, show us your tax returns!!

Paul Markham 08-29-2012 02:21 PM

They don't need to take your guns to own you.

Rochard 08-29-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19152510)
You think Obama doesn't take all the tax breaks he can?

Sure he talks big about everyone should pay more including him, but he wont volunteer that money until he HAS to. Thus, same as taking all the breaks you can till it isn't legal.

Blame the game not the players..

How much has Romney donated to charities, how much has Obama?
You can look at numbers and stuff from a million different angles.

How much did Mitt pay total in taxes how much did Obama? Well I guess I don't think Mitt has released his taxes yet.

I'm not saying Obama doesn't take all of the tax breaks he can. I'm sure he does. But I don't think Obama is moving money off shore to the Cayman Islands. I think the difference between what Obama makes and Romney makes is staggering - two different leagues. Obama made $789,674 in 2011 while Romney made $20.9 million. Romney pays more in taxes than Obama makes.....

When it comes to paying taxes, there are different ways of going about it. Most people take honest deductions while others write off repairs to their truck as their "company car". Then you have Romney who most likely has a team of advisers telling him how to stash his money.

You can look at numbers from different angles... How much did Romney give to charities? Most likely more than Obama made. But.... How much of Ronmey's giving was really more of a benefit to him as tax write offs?

Forest 08-29-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 19152424)

someone who actually read the article

:thumbsup

JFK 08-29-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 19152585)
someone who actually read the article

:thumbsup

Theo's really proud of his reading skills:upsidedow

mce 08-29-2012 05:00 PM

Truly successful people aren't envious of others' success and victories in life. Real winners draw inspiration from each other.

onwebcam 08-29-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19152405)
So they have to pay the Federal Reserve interest but they can also have the Federal Reserve print money for free? Alrighty then.

Seems crazy but true and at a fixed interest rate of 6.5% paid to the original shareholders in the Federal Reserve. Now they claim that the shares can never be sold but what they don't say is that the shares are held by other companies such as BOA which can be sold themselves in turn selling those shares..

BIGTYMER 08-29-2012 08:54 PM

Like it matters. We the people lose anyway.

epitome 08-29-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19152412)
You seem to have reading comprehension problems.

I never said they can have the Federal Reserve print the money "for free."

I said they can have the FED print the money out of thin air whenever they want.

The interest still has to be paid and that is where the income tax comes in.

Also, the part about "thousands of other taxes" is important because those taxes actually do fund the government's operations, while the income tax simply pays the FED interest.

I just wanted to see what your crazy response would be. The IRS was created in 1862. It got its current name in 1918. Facts are your friend. Now please prove to me that that every dollar in income tax is going to the fed. Income taxes existed before the fed.

AllAboutCams 08-29-2012 09:17 PM

95% of the yachts in the us are regged in the Cayman Islands

2012 08-29-2012 09:20 PM

Gary Johnson
 
I've been watching the news trying to find someone to vote for but I can only find two guys. Someone textered me this earlier about Gary Johnson. Have you heard of Gary ?

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

jimmy-3-way 08-29-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 19152527)
Somebody posted that Mitt doesn't want to release his taxes because he has been holding out on the tithing to the Mormon Church and not giving his percentage.

Mitt, show us your tax returns!!

I thought it was because he made a few million off burning medical waste (innocent dead babies) from abortion clinics.

2MuchMark 08-29-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152333)
Seems the boat doesn't belong to Mitt... But that doesn't change much.

It probably belongs to his horse, Rafalca.

RyuLion 08-29-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19152326)
kind of ironic the boat is named "Cracker Bay".

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19153111)
I just wanted to see what your crazy response would be. The IRS was created in 1862. It got its current name in 1918. Facts are your friend. Now please prove to me that that every dollar in income tax is going to the fed. Income taxes existed before the fed.

You "just" wanted to see what my crazy response would be? Looks like you wanted to do more than "just" see my response since you are engaging me further telling me to prove things to you. lol

The income tax existed before the Fed and it actually funded the operations of the government at that time.

This changed in 1913 with the 16th Amendment. The income tax which pays the Fed interest was created in 1913, didn't mean to say that the actual IRS was created in 1913.

2012 08-29-2012 11:29 PM

he did build it all on his own :

http://i.imgur.com/XQIGB.jpg

GrantMercury 08-29-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152311)
I'm sure Mitt Romney is "just like everyone else". You know, my friends and I always roll up (float up?) with my yacht which is registered in... The Cayman Islands.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/..._120829_wg.jpg



(source: ABC News)

"The floating party, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht 'Cracker Bay'"

LOL!!!!!! :1orglaugh

GrantMercury 08-29-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19153103)
Like it matters. We the people lose anyway.

When people get active, things CAN and DO change. But most people just want to beat off. :jerkoff

GrantMercury 08-29-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19152364)
When people point out that Romney is wealthy are they implying that Obama isn't also filthy rich?

They're all millionaires who don't give a fuck about regular Americans.

Mitt was BORN rich - really, really rich. Obama was actually a person of average means. He was in the White House when he finished paying off his student loans! Ever think Richie Mitt ever wondered how he'd pay for school???? Are you fucking kidding me?

Obama is NOFUCKINGWHERE near as rich as Mitt. And his money came primarily from book sales. Mitt increased his already huge fortune by manipulating the tax code and devouring companies.

They are NOT the same.

StickyGreen 08-29-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19153280)
Mitt was BORN rich - really, really rich. Obama was actually a person of average means. He was in the White House when he finished paying off his student loans! Ever think Richie Mitt ever wondered how he'd pay for school???? Are you fucking kidding me?

Obama is NOFUCKINGWHERE near as rich as Mitt. And his money came primarily from book sales. Mitt increased his already huge fortune by manipulating the tax code and devouring companies.

They are NOT the same.

Blah blah blah they're both rich as fuck and could care less about regular Americans, quit being petty....

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2012 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 19152527)
Somebody posted that Mitt doesn't want to release his taxes because he has been holding out on the tithing to the Mormon Church and not giving his percentage.

Mitt, show us your tax returns!!

Cheating his own church ... That would be his Waterloo if proven true ...

CamTraffic 08-30-2012 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19152311)
I'm sure Mitt Romney is "just like everyone else". You know, my friends and I always roll up (float up?) with my yacht which is registered in... The Cayman Islands.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/..._120829_wg.jpg



(source: ABC News)

Is that really important ?

Elections here are a Circus :1orglaugh It's comparable to a popularity contest more than anything
Funny how we spent 13 BILLIONS a MONTH on war (still) and no Obama or Romney are even talking about the defense Budget, wake the fuck up America

alessergod 08-30-2012 06:29 AM

All the shit about where the fucking boat was registered is the big story. Why didn't the ABC News? Crew get some pics of who the billionaires, who are trying to buy the Presidency were?

Rochard 08-30-2012 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 19153504)
Is that really important ?

Yeah, it is.

We are talking about the potential future president of the United States. He shouldn't be having any parties on a boat registered in any other country, no less a country that is well known for tax havens.


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