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Makaveli 09-13-2012 11:08 AM

Dictators in the Middle East were useful.
 
Seriously, they kept a lid on things. "Liberating" these Animals is a huge mistake..

spazlabz 09-13-2012 11:17 AM

I heard the same thing by a commentator on MSNBC last night. Basically saying that the dictators were asshats but useful ones in as much as they kept their populations under control and not attacking Embassies (Iran doesn't count)

BFT3K 09-13-2012 11:33 AM

We are ALL animals.

Religion and political propaganda are the problems.

Most people would rather just get along.

Rochard 09-13-2012 11:36 AM

This might be true, but keeping horrible people in power to satisfy our needs while treating their people like shit isn't the right thing to do.

J. Falcon 09-13-2012 11:47 AM

I guess you're better because you were "lucky" enough not to be born there.

DWB 09-13-2012 12:01 PM

As someone who values freedom, it pains me to say that a lot of the middle east needs to be ruled with an iron fist. It doesn't work otherwise. Generally speaking, many of them simply have not evolved enough yet to function properly as a society.

Grapesoda 09-13-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19187516)
This might be true, but keeping horrible people in power to satisfy our needs while treating their people like shit isn't the right thing to do.

yes but it might be better than turing them loose to 'treat us like shit'

bronco67 09-13-2012 12:05 PM

Maybe it's an organic part of the middle east to have dictators, otherwise those monkeys will run amok.

Grapesoda 09-13-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19187584)
Maybe it's an organic part of the middle east to have dictators, otherwise those monkeys will run amok.

the real issue is the middle east has been isolated culturally for about 800 years, and they are going to make us fucking pay!!!

xNetworx 09-13-2012 01:14 PM


Captain Kawaii 09-13-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19187576)
As someone who values freedom, it pains me to say that a lot of the middle east needs to be ruled with an iron fist. It doesn't work otherwise. Generally speaking, many of them simply have not evolved enough yet to function properly as a society.

Read T.E. Lawrence's (AKA, Lawrence of Arabia) "5 Pillars of Islam" or anything by Edward Said - We have Europe and later, the Americans to thank for current situation. Europe has felt threatened by ME culture since the turn of the last millennium, hence, needless crusades.

Grapesoda 09-13-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19187767)
Read T.E. Lawrence's (AKA, Lawrence of Arabia) "5 Pillars of Islam" or anything by Edward Said - We have Europe and later, the Americans to thank for current situation. Europe has felt threatened by ME culture since the turn of the last millennium, hence, needless crusades.

not true at all.... the muslins CHOSE the isolationist policy. think about every area the west has had wars with and NOT ONCE has there ever been any situation where the west has closed of the other culture... you're spouting crap from high school or some kind of other weird college liberal bullshit :2 cents:

Django 09-13-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 19187543)
I guess you're better because you were "lucky" enough not to be born there.

This :thumbsup

helterskelter808 09-13-2012 01:41 PM

We didn't liberate these people (the Islamic Fundamentalists), we supported and armed them.

BTW, can all racists in threads like this please fuck off and die.

Captain Kawaii 09-13-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19187782)
not true at all.... the muslins CHOSE the isolationist policy. think about every area the west has had wars with and NOT ONCE has there ever been any situation where the west has closed of the other culture... you're spouting crap from high school or some kind of other weird college liberal bullshit :2 cents:

Not at all. I did forget to mention Turkey and the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. That was a massive clusterfuck. However, Europe's activities pre-crusade and post crusade are well-documented. In last century we have mostly American oil companies to thank. In Middle East and Asia.

Next week's lesson for you; How To Tie Your Shoes: An Insiders Guide.:1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 09-13-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19187796)
We didn't liberate these people (the Islamic Fundamentalists), we supported and armed them.

BTW, can all racists in threads like this please fuck off and die.

Very, very true. The ones who did not exist, we created.

ottopottomouse 09-13-2012 03:24 PM

Every country would fall to bits without some sort of rule of law and sufficient policing to enforce it. Humans are vicious by nature.

spazlabz 09-13-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19187753)

Ok, you need to stop posting in serious threads or change that sig image because every time I get to your posts I stop reading and chuckle at that damned thing and lose all concentration!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BIGTYMER 09-13-2012 08:07 PM

Those animals have tolerance issues.

Say one thing bad about the prophet and all hell breaks loose.

Most of the people protesting don't even look very religious.

helterskelter808 09-13-2012 08:29 PM

OTOH is what some people go out of their way to say about Muhammad really worth saying? Or is it just designed to provoke exactly this kind of response? Just because we have the right to say something doesn't mean we necessarily should.

Try exercising your First Amendment rights to call large gentlemen with big fists "cunts" and see if they react by politely disagreeing with your considered evaluation of them, while still defending your right to make it, or whether they simply pummel you into an ICU.


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