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BFT3K 10-07-2012 12:15 PM

Time Travel Machines Really DO Exist...
 
They're called telescopes...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...52909089_n.jpg

Harmon 10-07-2012 12:17 PM

And if you looks through that very same telescope 2 minutes ago, he sees a retard sitting at a computer. :2 cents:
http://freshbread.blogs.com/photos/u...ainobvious.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-07-2012 12:37 PM

http://www.aaroncrocco.com/blog/wp-c...the-future.jpg

http://dpsshow.com/wp-content/upload...ime-travel.jpg

http://actualhumor.com/wp-content/up...ime+travel.jpg

I'm not into space and time... :stoned

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seeandsee 10-07-2012 12:43 PM

yeah its not time travel machine, more it's television show that is very very late with air date

Zeiss 10-07-2012 12:54 PM

http://www.troll.me/images/the-chuck...cks-i-give.jpg

Zoxxa 10-07-2012 01:13 PM

Yea, that was my annoying science teachers wet dream, to send an impossibly powerful telescope faster than the speed of light out into the universe and point it back at earth so he could see the dinosaurs.

Harmon 10-07-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 19237840)
If there are aliens out there, and they would be monitoring the things we've broadcast into space, the first thing they would see is Hitler.

Actually, the possibility exists that, providing their timing was off, they may see an albino porch monkey :1orglaugh

Colmike9 10-07-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 19237843)
Yea, that was my annoying science teachers wet dream, to send an impossibly powerful telescope faster than the speed of light out into the universe and point it back at earth so he could see the dinosaurs.

It would be possible if wormholes weren't just theory..

First of all, Schwarzschild came up with this:
ds2 = -(1-2GM/r)dt2+(1-2GM/r)-1dr2+r2dΩ2
with dΩ2 being the normal differential portion of a sphere: dθ2+sin2θdφ2

With math, you can convert to Kruskal coordinates:
X2 - T2 = (r/(2GM)-1)er/2GM
and
T/X = tanh(t/4GM)


Then you can conclude that the event horizon = r > 2GM

Which means that the singularity at the center of the black hole: X2-T2 = -1
Which gets X2-T2 < -1 which is physically impossible.

Well, I guess not since at T=0, there is a hole, but the objects going through wouldn't be able to if they're going slower than the speed of light since t!=0 closes up the hole..

:(

mromro 10-07-2012 01:47 PM

:conehead

Zoxxa 10-07-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19237864)
It would be possible if wormholes weren't just theory..

First of all, Schwarzschild came up with this:
ds2 = -(1-2GM/r)dt2+(1-2GM/r)-1dr2+r2dΩ2
with dΩ2 being the normal differential portion of a sphere: dθ2+sin2θdφ2

With math, you can convert to Kruskal coordinates:
X2 - T2 = (r/(2GM)-1)er/2GM
and
T/X = tanh(t/4GM)


Then you can conclude that the event horizon = r > 2GM

Which means that the singularity at the center of the black hole: X2-T2 = -1
Which gets X2-T2 < -1 which is physically impossible.

Well, I guess not since at T=0, there is a hole, but the objects going through wouldn't be able to if they're going slower than the speed of light since t!=0 closes up the hole..

:(


http://i.imgur.com/QgDBN.jpg

Tjeezers 10-07-2012 01:54 PM

The asteroid who killed the dinosaurs was actually a UFO and we are the aliens. That sums it up

Colmike9 10-07-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 19237889)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Glad I don't look like that, though.. :upsidedow

idolbucks 10-07-2012 02:01 PM

When aliens on the other side of the galaxy look at us through telescopes they see dinosaurs.

Dirty F 10-07-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 19237901)
When aliens on the other side of the galaxy look at us through telescopes they see dinosaurs.

Depends on how far away from earth they are.

Colmike9 10-07-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19237931)
Depends on how far away from earth they are.

:thumbsup

The Dawg 10-07-2012 02:43 PM

Hmmm...

The only time machine I know of is MUSIC.

Turn on an old song and watch your mind zip back in time.

wehateporn 10-07-2012 02:47 PM

Do not underestimate the aliens :error

adultmobile 10-07-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19237864)
It would be possible if wormholes weren't just theory..

First of all, Schwarzschild came up with this:
ds2 = -(1-2GM/r)dt2+(1-2GM/r)-1dr2+r2dΩ2
with dΩ2 being the normal differential portion of a sphere: dθ2+sin2θdφ2

With math, you can convert to Kruskal coordinates:
X2 - T2 = (r/(2GM)-1)er/2GM
and
T/X = tanh(t/4GM)


Then you can conclude that the event horizon = r > 2GM

Which means that the singularity at the center of the black hole: X2-T2 = -1
Which gets X2-T2 < -1 which is physically impossible.

Well, I guess not since at T=0, there is a hole, but the objects going through wouldn't be able to if they're going slower than the speed of light since t!=0 closes up the hole..
:(

This is stuff from 1930's.
Space got more dimensions than 3 + time, the space is not a sphere, it is Calabi-Yau manifold at many dimensions (depending on string theory varies from 6 to 12 dimensions, no one knows for sure yet), which is painted or lieing along the whole 2d cosmological horizon. Those 6+ dimensions are compactified to the 3 we see. So compactified Calabi-Yau 3-fold contain black holes which becomes massless near conifold singularities, but these preserve half supersymmetries precisely at event horizon so that curvarture singularity is protected by the event horizon itself.
For further details subscribe to http://arxiv.org/ rss feeds, that's hot.

Colmike9 10-07-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19237988)
This is stuff from 1930's.
Space got more dimensions than 3 + time, the space is not a sphere, it is Calabi-Yau manifold at many dimensions (depending on string theory varies from 6 to 12 dimensions, no one knows for sure yet), which is painted or lieing along the whole 2d cosmological horizon. Those 6+ dimensions are compactified to the 3 we see. So compactified Calabi-Yau 3-fold contain black holes which becomes massless near conifold singularities, but these preserve half supersymmetries precisely at event horizon so that curvarture singularity is protected by the event horizon itself.
For further details subscribe to http://arxiv.org/ rss feeds, that's hot.

True, it's old info, but we'll never know exactly until we 100% understand how the universe works. Theories are just number tricks on paper..

I want to learn more about Higgs Boson in terms of how the universe is shaped, too, but I've been slacking and haven't been on top of things with physics for a few years.. :upsidedow

scottybuzz 10-07-2012 03:49 PM

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-07-2012 04:02 PM

http://heahea.org/img/1820-Physics_is_like_sex.jpg

:smilie_we

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adultmobile 10-07-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19237996)
True, it's old info, but we'll never know exactly until we 100% understand how the universe works. Theories are just number tricks on paper..

I want to learn more about Higgs Boson in terms of how the universe is shaped, too, but I've been slacking and haven't been on top of things with physics for a few years.. :upsidedow

Same here, running 2 cam sites leave me not enough free time for physics, got so many pdf's there collected to read "one day" and unfinished code for simulators (even I can't understand my own sources from 10 years ago). Sad to say i'll keep hobby scientist and professional pimp, I wished the opposite, maybe in other dimensions there's one me who is hobby pimp and pro scientist, kudos to him. By the way an hint on cool free soft to write simulators, python based: http://www.sagemath.org/

mromro 10-07-2012 04:34 PM

I have an issue with this whole thing. If it were true then why don't we see new stars just poping up in the sky all the time?

New stars should be showing up in the sky as their light finally reaches the earth after millions of years? but we don't see that. all we see is stuff die.

Colmike9 10-07-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19238035)
Same here, running 2 cam sites leave me not enough free time for physics, got so many pdf's there collected to read "one day" and unfinished code for simulators (even I can't understand my own sources from 10 years ago). Sad to say i'll keep hobby scientist and professional pimp, I wished the opposite, maybe in other dimensions there's one me who is hobby pimp and pro scientist, kudos to him. By the way an hint on cool free soft to write simulators, python based: http://www.sagemath.org/

Looks a lot better than the software I'm used to, I'll check it out :winkwink:
I've always hated substeps and the inconsistencies that they cause, but imagine doing a sim without them... lol :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19238035)
even I can't understand my own sources from 10 years ago

Same here. I recently reloaded some C64 programs from tapes that I made in elementary and thought "How the F did I know how to do this?" the biggest one being 1200ish lines with AI.. :upsidedow

I need to start mentoring for FIRST Robotics again and get back in the tech world..

wehateporn 10-07-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mromro (Post 19238055)
I have an issue with this whole thing. If it were true then why don't we see new stars just poping up in the sky all the time?

New stars should be showing up in the sky as their light finally reaches the earth after millions of years? but we don't see that. all we see is stuff die.

If we put faith in our current understanding of stars, which could be completely wrong, it would take millions of years for a new star to form, so we wouldn't see them popping up, nor would we be able to see their evolution; we would just witness their current stage of evolution

adultmobile 10-07-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19238058)
Same here. I recently reloaded some C64 programs from tapes that I made in elementary and thought "How the F did I know how to do this?" the biggest one being 1200ish lines with AI.. :upsidedow

Yes Commodore I used to write in assembly a few games and demos, up to the Amiga 1200 or so. Can find some my stuff from 16 years ago with google, some guy put in youtube this 1996 demo I made with a swede mate:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vQqNDGJUm_8

This was like 60,000 lines of assembly code, all realtime and no any API or "opengl" or video card, had to decide pixel by pixel what damn color should be, run fast at 25Mhz cpu including the 3d engine with shading and the fractals all by hand with motorola 68000 instructions not even in C language, as C too obvious readable. Now I am sure I would understand 2% of such a source code. Even I was writing books how to learn program that stuff lol. Imagine the phisics you forget this at speed of light or even ultraluminal, if you not do it daily. WIshed phisics pays as much as pussy but I had to pay bills and ended up fund the phisics with pussy shop.

wehateporn 10-07-2012 05:05 PM

Nice Adult Mobile!

I used to be an Amiga user as I was growing up, I loved the demos. This was one I remember well


CDSmith 10-07-2012 05:05 PM

So, if I could fly through a wormhole or something and look through a telescope from say, a planet THIRTY light years away, I could see myself getting laid for the first time?


Cool.

pornmasta 10-07-2012 05:06 PM

and there is time travellers

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...667/z13287.jpg

adultmobile 10-07-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19238078)
Nice Adult Mobile!
I used to be an Amiga user as I was growing up, I loved the demos. This was one I remember well

Hehe well talking about stars, demos was full of starfields and physics-like stuff. Yes I remember that one and I was in touch with that group myself they was from UK if I remember. Actually we was part of the "demo scene" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene , this was fun as we knew each other (as long as "elite", and part of a "group" as who was unable to do such stuff was "lame" and "indepentent" lol) and swapped disks with sourcecode with snail mail, and participated to parties to compete who made the most awesome code, mostly in scandinavia. This one I posted before was meant to participage "the assembly 1996" in finland:


In reality the demo scene was born from the crack intros from warez groups, there the starfields with textscrollers and music evolved into bigger things.. and aehm guess what I am no exception the thing below I made is from 1993


Especially fancy the list of numbers to call the BBS's, with blue box of course :)
This was 20 years ago I think it is safe to tell it now, and mostly I was underage so what.

By the way some of those early 1990 demos was quite stylish, those norwegians esp:




For more vintage, search for "amiga demos" in yourtube, also for PC there's something recent in scene.org that runs on windows, but not going to see time machines... the real math it is not as wide audience as some star images rotating with music :)

My idea on this it is that the human brain can't understand string theory and quantum phisics completely, even if many brains cooperate. However, the human brain it can write an artificial intelligence code that can at some point auto-evolve itself up to the point of understand more than human brain, andultimately tell us what's the facts. However will it do like skynet of terminator, or the matrix, and kill all humans? Time (machine) will tell.

BFT3K 10-11-2012 04:53 PM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto..._6477934_n.jpg

Zeiss 10-11-2012 05:41 PM

Space pirates and zomibies?

tical 10-11-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mromro (Post 19238055)
I have an issue with this whole thing. If it were true then why don't we see new stars just poping up in the sky all the time?

New stars should be showing up in the sky as their light finally reaches the earth after millions of years? but we don't see that. all we see is stuff die.

this should answer that for you


Chosen 10-11-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19237780)
And if you looks through that very same telescope 2 minutes ago, he sees a retard sitting at a computer. :2 cents:
http://freshbread.blogs.com/photos/u...ainobvious.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19237796)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AdultKing 10-11-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mromro (Post 19238055)
I have an issue with this whole thing. If it were true then why don't we see new stars just poping up in the sky all the time?

New stars should be showing up in the sky as their light finally reaches the earth after millions of years? but we don't see that. all we see is stuff die.

That's not correct, go outside and check out the little smudge in the sky called the Orion Nebula , then grab a telescope and look at the smudge and with a pretty basic telescope you'll see the trapezium stars, four very new, bright, hot stars inside a massive gas cloud which is the closest thing you'll get to seeing live birth in stellar terms. These stars can be seen by anyone with a basic telescope and are unbelievably young when compared to our Sun, which isn't old in itself. If the Sun was a man, he'd be slightly built, quite average loner (no companion) , of about 32 - 35 years of age. The trapezium stars would have been born 2 minutes ago.

seeme 10-12-2012 12:18 AM

I just watched the last of Lost. I wish they existed :1orglaugh

samuelmosc 10-12-2012 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dawg (Post 19237954)
Hmmm...

The only time machine I know of is MUSIC.

Turn on an old song and watch your mind zip back in time.

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AlexFS 10-12-2012 03:31 AM

Time Travel Machines do not exist, Time Travelers do. I know for a fact. :)

Dirty F 10-12-2012 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFS (Post 19246737)
Time Travel Machines do not exist, Time Travelers do. I know for a fact. :)

At quantum level it does exist. Entangled particles can share information 1000's of times faster than the speed of light.

Dirty F 10-12-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexFS (Post 19246737)
Time Travel Machines do not exist, Time Travelers do. I know for a fact. :)

I'm curious about your "fact" btw. Why don't you share it.

MaDalton 10-12-2012 07:22 AM


Tom_PM 10-12-2012 07:33 AM

I tried explaining to someone how using a telescope is actually looking back in time and I got the "my cats breath smells like catfood" look in return.

Dirty F 10-12-2012 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19247012)
I tried explaining to someone how using a telescope is actually looking back in time and I got the "my cats breath smells like catfood" look in return.

:1orglaugh
You don't need a telescope to look back in time.
You always look back in time :)
Not that that would make any more sense to that person probably.

adultmobile 10-12-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 19246302)
this should answer that for you


Cute video.

Imagine it has been shown to jews some 3000 years ago what it would be written in the Bible today? :)

2MuchMark 10-12-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19246868)
At quantum level it does exist. Entangled particles can share information 1000's of times faster than the speed of light.

Quantum entanglement is not time travel.

Dirty F 10-12-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19247090)
Quantum entanglement is not time travel.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...-entanglement/

Dirty F 10-12-2012 08:26 AM

http://www.livescience.com/19975-spo...anglement.html

Etc.

CIVMatt 10-12-2012 08:47 AM

Time travel is proven, but you can only go forward you can't go back

adultmobile 10-12-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 19247152)
Time travel is proven, but you can only go forward you can't go back

I would be not so sure, since we didn't understood much of the whole thing yet :)

However, let's assume you got a time machine which can bring back, you need the time machine there in the past too, as to teleport in the past the machine which teleports yourself it is more difficult to think of.

So let's say someone builds a time machine in 2015 and puts it in a secret place underground inside a mountain which you know can't be touched in future. Let him go forward in time, he re-appear in same place in 2030, then let him go on 2050 and so on. Then let him go back in 2030 and 2015 is ok. But he can't go back in 2014 or anyway before the time machine it existed there.

This would explain why if in the future the time machine it will be invented, they did not came here to tell us. It could be in the future, someon invents the time machine then immediately (on that same second), infinite people from the future will come from the past into that first time machine box in a loop changing future , so fast until one of the many futures in the loop includes a world destruction by nukes (very probable in such a loop), which would happen as soon as possible so in the very next second after the time machine it is built.

Accordingly, it is very likely the same day someone evern built a working time machine, the world it will end, by near-infinite loop of future people abusing this by return back in time to change something until one of these future includes end of all, which stops loop and all of humans from doing this.

Boozer 10-12-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19237864)
It would be possible if wormholes weren't just theory..

First of all, Schwarzschild came up with this:
ds2 = -(1-2GM/r)dt2+(1-2GM/r)-1dr2+r2dΩ2
with dΩ2 being the normal differential portion of a sphere: dθ2+sin2θdφ2

With math, you can convert to Kruskal coordinates:
X2 - T2 = (r/(2GM)-1)er/2GM
and
T/X = tanh(t/4GM)


Then you can conclude that the event horizon = r > 2GM

Which means that the singularity at the center of the black hole: X2-T2 = -1
Which gets X2-T2 < -1 which is physically impossible.

Well, I guess not since at T=0, there is a hole, but the objects going through wouldn't be able to if they're going slower than the speed of light since t!=0 closes up the hole..

:(

Nice selective copy and paste


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