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BIGTYMER 11-05-2012 12:13 AM

Our poor Air Force!
 
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17635726

Propaganda about our aging and decrepit Air Force. The fleet is old, rusted and not able to defend us.

Give me a fucking break! :(

Clearly the defense contractors want more money.

epitome 11-05-2012 12:17 AM

The billions upon billions wasted during the Bush administration was probably enough for a whole new fleet. So many projects got billions and never materialized.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 12:30 AM

Start less wars and spend those billions on something else. There, i solved it.

Captain Kawaii 11-05-2012 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19294758)
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17635726

Propaganda about our aging and decrepit Air Force. The fleet is old, rusted and not able to defend us.

Give me a fucking break! :(

Clearly the defense contractors want more money.

Yeah, its pretty much a sham piece for DOD contractors.

2012 11-05-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19294769)
Start less wars and spend those billions on something else. There, i solved it.

that's a nice dream


helterskelter808 11-05-2012 09:04 AM

"China's rise as a world power" "China has a credible air force"

These delusional pro-military whackjobs seriously need to just fuck off.

Reality check:
http://www.rickety.us/wp-content/upl...by_Country.png

Remember when this country was not run by and for the military? No, neither can I:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NSAQjsCzwc...%252011(1).png

dillonaire 11-05-2012 10:11 AM

I was in the AF for 7 years and I can tell you those bastards waste more money than they know what to do with.

seeric 11-05-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 19295464)
I was in the AF for 7 years and I can tell you those bastards waste more money than they know what to do with.

Likewise. I was in the USAF for over 4 years, from Dec88-Feb93, and I can tell you the jokes about 500.00 hammers and 1000.00 jackets are no joke. It's real.

The military and those defense contracts are so inflated it isn't even funny. The wast TONS of money on shit that isn't worth the materials its made from.

:2 cents:

Spunky 11-05-2012 12:57 PM

Don't worry,Canada has your back

Rochard 11-05-2012 01:08 PM

While I understand this seems to be a Navy plane, the F35 is for all services. I'm guessing our Air Force is doing okay.



The F22 Raptor is fucking impressive too.



Is anyone outside of the US building planes like this? I read something about China's stealth plane that flew for the first time last week and they said it was twenty years behind the US?

_Richard_ 11-05-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19295873)
While I understand this seems to be a Navy plane, the F35 is for all services. I'm guessing our Air Force is doing okay.



The F22 Raptor is fucking impressive too.



Is anyone outside of the US building planes like this? I read something about China's stealth plane that flew for the first time last week and they said it was twenty years behind the US?

no, a US military guy said the chinese were 20 years behind the US, then the chinese flew a stealth fighter

this F35 doesn't fly in the rain or any place that has particles in the air, due to the skin used for the radar reflection

it also has a habit of killing it's pilots over 25k feet

no biggie tho

RebelR 11-05-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 19295855)
Don't worry,Canada has your back

You mean for moral support right? We can totally sympathize about an aging fleet of fighters, so we make the ideal shoulder to cry on.

alex.missyouth 11-05-2012 02:01 PM

Money should not be spent in military armament no more. :2 cents:

Rochard 11-05-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19295884)
no, a US military guy said the chinese were 20 years behind the US, then the chinese flew a stealth fighter

Here's the article I read: http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ng-test-flown/

Here's what they said:

Quote:

While these are both fifth-generation fighter jets, that doesn't put them on par with America's two newest fighters.

For example, Pike said China's jet engines just don't come close to American engines. "This is a sucking chest wound of Chinese military aviation."

Pike said the primary Chinese military jet engine is based on an American design. "We started development of this engine back in the '60s. Then they commercialized it in the 1970s. Then the Chinese got a hold of it 20 years ago and it's still no good. It's a half century-old design that they've been working on for two decades, and it's still no good."
Seems pretty bad really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19295884)
this F35 doesn't fly in the rain or any place that has particles in the air, due to the skin used for the radar reflection

That's odd. I don't recall ever reading that. I can't seem to find anything about it via Google either. In fact, the only reference I can find is about the radar absorbing material on the B2, and how the F35 is a "completely different animal":
http://defense.aol.com/2012/07/11/lo...-for-f-35-jsf/

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19295884)
it also has a habit of killing it's pilots over 25k feet

They fixed that a while back - It wasn't the plane itself, but rather the air mask.

Lykos 11-05-2012 04:23 PM

So much money spent on that, jesus...

ColBigBalls 11-05-2012 04:26 PM

Don't worry Canada will save u!

Rochard 11-05-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColBigBalls (Post 19296267)
Don't worry Canada will save u!

Wouldn't be the first time would it?

_Richard_ 11-05-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19296011)
Here's the article I read: http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ng-test-flown/

Here's what they said:



Seems pretty bad really.



That's odd. I don't recall ever reading that. I can't seem to find anything about it via Google either. In fact, the only reference I can find is about the radar absorbing material on the B2, and how the F35 is a "completely different animal":
http://defense.aol.com/2012/07/11/lo...-for-f-35-jsf/



They fixed that a while back - It wasn't the plane itself, but rather the air mask.

you.. can't find the articles of the US military making utter fools of themselves?

how odd.

you.. can't find the articles of how water and sand damage the skin of the new fighter jet, entirely ballooning the operation costs of said jet?

how odd.

you.. seem to think this issue has been fixed?

how odd.



http://nation.time.com/2012/07/09/f-...bber-baseline/

http://wareye.com/gates-may-have-to-...up-before-2020

"On 19 September 2012, USAF General Gilmary M. Hostage III stated that the main source of the problems was not the hardware, but the "human physiology" of the pilots"

L-Pink 11-05-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 19295855)
Don't worry,Canada has your back

lol !!! ?.. and thanks!

scottybuzz 11-05-2012 04:59 PM

im with johny clips on this.

why don't we stand up and stop these fuckers? none of us want these armies and wars so why do we do it?

Rochard 11-05-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19296303)
you.. can't find the articles of the US military making utter fools of themselves?

Nope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19296303)
you.. can't find the articles of how water and sand damage the skin of the new fighter jet, entirely ballooning the operation costs of said jet?

Nope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19296303)
you.. seem to think this issue has been fixed?

I thought I read someplace it had been fixed.


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