What is API, and why you will make more $$!
 

Everyone has been asking about API for some time. This morning I was passed this informative blog post, which mentions Lead Wrench.

http://www.jayknowscash.com/2012/11/...your-business/

It's worth the quick read.

Awesome link. There's a lot of confusion about what APIs are and how they're used, and people not understanding them means they're leaving money on the table.

danke ... :)

I never thought of it this way...

API work very well and we def need to start using leadwrench.

we even explain it to the users here.

http://www.freedatingexposed.com/

I've been preaching API for 2 years.

I dont waste my time on bullshit.

Of course, VenusBlogger will come in here tripping on his dick about how he doesnt understand the shit and we are all holding information from him.

You are absolutely correct. When used correctly, API to dating sites can and will increase your overall income and make you much more popular with your sponsors;-)

Yes, you do;-) Your team has been working with ours on a custom integration. I look forward to when it finally launches!

Ha, well, the VB thing used to bother me as well, until I learned that he's a board personality who actually tries to look stupid (Paul Markham impression kind of thing). On other boards, he isn't the same guy. He used to really frustrate me until I figured this out.

Group sex ???? :upsidedow

I don't kiss and tell:pimp

I sent you a message on FB about this topic. I'd be thankful if you replied whenever you have some free time. Thank you!

I'm sure it got caught in Facebook's "i won't deliver this message unless you know this person" BS. I'll look now.

It's nothing that needs immediate attention, but that's why I mention it here, just in case it gets lost on the way. Thank you for taking a look!

Sure enough, that's exactly where it was. Such a stupid feature. Yes, I have a solution to your problem. Let me get in touch with the parties involved (hint: they're in this thread), and I'll get back to you.

Thanks for that;-)

I don't want to repeat againt the same over and over again... But I still cannot figure out what do you exactly offer SHARKY..

As you suggested me 10 days ago, I subscribed to your site but I never received anything... and your page is completely empty.

It's still a BIG MISTERY to me.. how am I supposed to make money with your API, can you describe in 10 steps what I must do? What piece of code I need to insert in my WORDPRESS Widget?

The article you posted there is still a lot of propaganda that doesn't goes to the point EITHER.

Let's go the point for once! What must I do exactly?

And Mister FEAR, I know all your pieces, all your sites, I just need to put everything together, thats where im failing, but im very good at finding pieces... Just building the jigsaw is the problem.

And Mister FEAR, your traffic is untraceable, which means that you are not generating it with SEO or organic... and the only chances left I can think of are EMAIL Spam, MSN Spam, or some other shit, but I cannot confirm this, until you confirm it... Where does your traffic come from Mister FEAR ?

Holy facepalm, Batman. It's this kind of post that makes people think the VenusBlogger personality is really you. Contact me you-know-where (or make a thread there) if you really do have questions about it ... Although I suspect you know exactly what it does and are just posting this to SEEM dumb, PIRIOD.

To work with Lead Wrench you need only a few things:

1) A Lead Wrench account :winkwink:
2) A Landing page (with form) to capture leads
3) Accounts with sponsors whom accept API.

We help you with everything in between.

Lead Wrench will act as your form processor. Once a Campaign is created within Lead Wrench you are given a unique Form Submit URL. When your form is submitted, the lead will be directed through Lead Wrench to the sponsors you have configured in your account, according to a number of settings and rules. No two sponsors are the same, so we do field modifications based on each sponsors requirements.

Examples:
- Some sponsors want the birth year and other sponsors want the age. We do those conversions for you.
- some sponsors want zip code, others want city
- some sponsors want a 2-digit country code and others want a 3-digit country code

The lead data is stored inside of Lead Wrench and can be exported via CSV at any time.

We don't have a Wordpress widget at this time, but that is on our list of to-do items.

I hope this clears up some of your confusion.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

The guy in video receives email in french, now we guess that's canadian :)

Honestly, I doubt it. I think what he needs is even more basic. He doesn't have a grasp of APIs, form collections, field modifications, etc.

The 30,000 ft. overview, no technical terms:

1) You bring user information (leads), consisting of things like e-mail, birth year, desired username, etc.
2) LeadWrench offers this information to partners you define (like dating sponsors, for example).
3) If your information doesn't match what the partner wants, LeadWrench does some fancy things to help it match.
4) Depending on the partner, you're paid for your lead, or paid PPS.

What this means is that you get to make MORE for EACH lead. So, if you make $1.50 per lead right now with a white label dating site, now you can make more commissions off of the same customer. This makes your cost per acquisition look like peanuts, allowing you to spend more to acquire customers that might have been out of your price range before because you couldn't convert enough money out of them.

Trying to be broad here. :thumbsup

I think he also wants to know exactly how and where to get traffic.

Ok man...

1) I don't have one.. I sent my email 10 days ago to open one.. still no news.

2) I have this.

3) I have this.


Now the problem is that since point 1) is missing.. I can't build everything together, I have no idea what is inside point 1)... So I can't go further and Im still confused.

The point 1) is still a PANDORAS BOX.. I have no idea whats inside and you give no details about it either. So im stuck in my first post.

So, how do I move forward?

Sadly, a lot of people want to know that ... and without having an answer to that question, LeadWrench isn't useful. It's like having a taco shell but no meat. You can eat the shell, but then it's more of a tortilla chip, not a taco.

That even confused me. But you get my point. :winkwink:

Oh... Should I?..

Your message is indirectly saying that there are SECRET PLACES to drive traffic to an API.

How many leads are you generating from this? If it's decent traffic, then it's worth looking further. If not (or if the traffic doesn't exist now, today), then it's not worth looking into. :2 cents:

There are secret places to do almost anything, sure. But there are also very legitimate ways to do it. A fake dating site is one way. Do you need an example?

Yeah man.. But I need to know exactly whats inside LEAD WRENCK.

I have no idea whats inside and the guy (SHARKY) makes it even more misterious..

At this point I think SHARKY is doing it intentionally as a MARKETING strategy.

Otherwise he would just EXPLAIN in detail.

I want to know whats inside, I want to have that in front of my computer and then I can move forward and find out if I need to hire a coder or I can do it on my own.

You just need to have a lot of traffic, or money to buy it. Leadwrench is probably the easy part, but without the traffic it's pointless to even worry about it.

I think it's less about a marketing strategy than it is about the people who would USE it right now (in its invite-only form) are the people who already understand it. Those who need it explained aren't likely to be the current target market.

What I posted above (and on the other place we chat) is a fairly comprehensive overview. The other place's post might make more sense, as I am less broad there than I am on GFY.

That's one of the keys to LeadWrench: it makes sources of PURCHASED traffic feasible where they weren't before. For example, if you're getting $1.50 off of a lead that costs $4, you lose. If you are getting $8 off of a lead that costs $4, bring it on. :thumbsup

I have lots of blogs man... so yes I have traffic, and I want to know how to use SHARKIS script to make sales with DATING.

Mister FEAR has his methods but he has ZERO Search Engine Traffic. I have Search Engine traffic.

I'd caution you against comparing what Mr. Pheer does to the "quality" of SEO. I can virtually assure you that the "quality" of what he's doing is superior to blog/SEO traffic.

That aside, you'd need to be collecting information from these people. For example, from them trying to sign up for online dating. Do you do that, CURRENTLY, today?

Thanks in advance for your posts, man.

But I think SHARKY is then aproaching it the BAD way here.. If he is only giving it to a selected FEW from a VIP group, then why make so much propaganda about it?

I just dont get it. If he makes so much propaganda but he keeps it clsoed, then its obvious there will be people like ME, that will ask a lot of quesitons.

I remember when JUGGCASH (BEFORE BRAZZERS) opened their site like 8 years ago, they were beta, and they told nobody about it ofr obvious reasons.

If you are going to go public, then don't keep it beta so much time.

What SHARKI is doing here, It's like saying: "See what I have, but you CANT get it, hohoho"...

Just sayin...

Well, what he's doing is more like this:

He's got a Lamborghini. Lots of 14 year old boys pop boners at said Lamborghini, but spending his time with those guys isn't likely to bear much fruit. He's concentrating on the 35 year old executives that drive the Lambo and who understand what a beautiful machine it is.

When he stops doing JUST private stuff (and allows public users), he'll be essentially putting out slick brochures that the young guns can go whack off to (and understand).

Does my analogy make sense?

Sure, he's missing some traffic/sales (probably a lot of traffic/sales), but he's perfecting the system so that when people who need a LOT of hand-holding arrive, he's able to hold their hands.

What's the cost to me? Is there a monthly cost, a cost per form submission, do you simply use the leads for your own gain as well, or a combination of these options?

Forgive me for my bluntness, I'm just curious to know how our partnership would be profitable to both parties.

I think Sharky just got on a call, so give him a minute. I don't know their model, or I'd try to answer for ya. I think there's a freemium component, if I'm not mistaken.

Man, if you finally get HIRED and get a permanent JOB with SHARKY and LEAD-WRENCH, remember to thank me later!!! :1orglaugh

I allowed you to piss me off like that, because you have proven to be a good guy. If you were another guy, I would just not answer. :pimp

Ha! Hired at LeadWrench? Are they hiring? I'll have to inquire.

Warning to whoever replies to VenusBlogger: search his previous posts in GFY before to decide to reply him on anything.

I'm personally aware of his history, and have accepted his limitations. :thumbsup

I am laughing pretty hard. Then I literally tripped on my own dick. No fucking shit, man. Smack dab on my chin I fell to the floor. Cold cocked myself the fuck out. Woke up my own dick was in my mouth. Well, close anyways. Fucking what a way to wake up, right? Fuck me. (again, almost, I didn't actually suck my own dick)(yet!)

If I could suck my own dick, I'd never leave the house.

Thats for sharing that useful article! ;)

Limitations?

Patience has a limit of course, and you were going to code a script in the OTHER FORUM, and you never finished it. What about that, huh? Do you need PROOF of it? Really? No problem, just ask...

People just take care if you hire someone that will NEVER finish his job.

You have no codes, I will have no codes either. You receive what you GIVE.

My patience with you is OVER, DUDE. CIAO.

Are you sure? When you filled out the form on LeadWrench.com did you click on the confirmation link in the email that was sent to you? I don't see any of those requests until you confirm your email address.

If you did, what is your email address?

I'm not sure what causes your switch to flip like this, but I won't stop defending you, since I'm still convinced this is a board personality.

For clarification, the script you're talking about is one that we were community-writing on another forum, and we put on hold (documented in the thread) in favor of paid (non-free) work that I had/have coming in.

Not sure how that relates to paid work being finished, but I'm sure it makes sense in your head somehow.

Are prospects going to end up on a million lists they didn't agree to, getting tons of unwanted emails?

You are correct. If you have traffic, Lead Wrench is worth checking out. If you do not have traffic, you should find it first before worrying about Lead Wrench.

To be honest, we are invite only because we want to control our support process. Right now we are still a small team of 4. If we opened this technology up to everyone we would be swamped and would most certainly not be able to handle the amount of support required. I'd rather slow our release and leave all of our customers happy, than rush the release and lose every customer.

We have plans that include a lower cost in exchange for us sharing in your data as well as plans that allow you exclusive use of our system without any share. I would prefer not to mention the pricing in public at this time. I am happy to work with you on a pricing structure best fit for your needs. We are finding that every one of our customers has unique needs that would allow us to be more creative in our pricing/monetization structure.

I can guarantee you that, if used properly, Lead Wrench will increase your bottom line way more than we will charge you;-)

Send me your CV, we are hiring senior level programmers.

My pleasure.