Yeah these religious folk are a hoot. One of the most popular churches in my area has a convicted murderer as it's preacher (con artist).
CyberHustler
11-24-2012 04:02 AM
What would Jesus have done?
onwebcam
11-24-2012 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberHustler
(Post 19330112)
What would Jesus have done?
Moon walked on water?
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
11-24-2012 04:32 AM
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In Florida, hundreds of pages of documents detail the sexually explicit text messages allegedly sent by pastor Darrell Gilyard to 14 and 15 year-old girls. A news account provides details of the molestation allegations against Gilyard.
So this is the Florida news, but look at the history of this pastor. Why didn't Baptist leaders stop him sooner?
As reported in the Dallas Morning News, Gilyard left Concord Missionary Baptist Church in Dallas in 1987 after about 25 women complained of his ?sexual misconduct.? The senior pastor, Rev. E.K. Bailey, ?assumed that would be the end of Darrell Gilyard?s bright evangelistic career.? How tragically wrong he was.
At that time, the First Baptist Church of Dallas and Criswell College president Paige Patterson were promoting Gilyard in Southern Baptist churches. He was considered a rising star. Despite the many allegations against Gilyard, First Baptist officials ?decided there was not enough evidence? to further investigate Gilyard, and, according to Rev. Bailey, Paige Patterson wrote him ?an unkind letter? saying that ?he would have come out to my church and solved the problem for me if I had told him first.?
Apparently, 25 accusations weren?t enough for Paige Patterson. In fact, according to the Dallas Morning News, Patterson painted ?Gilyard as a victim? and suggested the accusers were motivated by ?jealousy, frustration and racism.?
Patterson wanted ?demonstrable evidence? such as ?photographs, videotapes or laboratory tests.? Despite 25 women?s accusations, Patterson and First Baptist ?continued to recommend? Gilyard.
Hilltop Baptist Church in Norman, Oklahoma, was Gilyard?s next stop. Senior pastor Dan Maxwell said he ?had heard rumors? about Gilyard, but ?Paige Patterson said he had been out there and talked to the women and there had been nothing to substantiate the allegations.?
At Hilltop, 3 more women reported Gilyard?s sexual advances and sexual misconduct. Reverend Maxwell took the information to Paige Patterson, who said ?he did not believe? the stories.
In 1989, Gilyard became an assistant pastor at Shiloh Baptist in Garland, and ?allegations of sexual misconduct surfaced again.? Some women met with Paige Patterson in person to discuss their allegations. Counselor Don Simpkins, who was at those meetings, told the Dallas Morning News that, rather than focusing on the allegations against Gilyard, those meetings delved into the women?s own pasts, looking to see whether they were divorced or had psychological problems. More recently, Simpkins gave a stark video interview in which he said that 6 to 8 women met with Patterson at that time and reported everything from rapes to sexual assaults.
During that same time period, another woman reported that she requested a meeting with Paige Patterson to talk about Gilyard, but that her phone calls were not returned.
Still another woman said that Gilyard ?pulled me down onto the floor right there in the church? and that, when she tried to report it, Paige Patterson ?would not take her calls.? She wrote Patterson a detailed, 10-page letter, but Patterson still ?wouldn?t agree to meet? with her.
Multiple Criswell College students said they reported Gilyard to Patterson, but according to news accounts, Patterson said ?to refrain from speaking about it."
The Dallas Morning News reported that many were angry about how little was done.
Gilyard's next stop was Victory Baptist Church in Richardson, Texas, where ?at least 4 women? made accusations against him. As reported in the Dallas Morning News, one woman said she was ?raped.?
Gilyard was allowed to resign from Victory Baptist after confessing to ?several adulterous relationships.? That was the description Paige Patterson gave to Gilyard?s conduct, as quoted in the Dallas Morning News. It was "the fourth time in four years" that Gilyard had been "forced to walk away from a congregation."
The morning after Gilyard?s resignation, Paige Patterson also described Gilyard as one of the ?most brilliant men in the pulpit.?
Just two weeks later, Darrell Gilyard was preaching in the pulpit of another church.
In 1993, Darrell Gilyard became pastor of Shiloh Metropolitan Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida. Gilyard was encouraged by former Southern Baptist president Jerry Vines, who ?agreed to forgive? Gilyard for his ?out-of-state troubles.? Reportedly, Vines also gave credence to Gilyard by speaking from the pulpit of Gilyard?s church.
Now, finally, Gilyard faces trial in Florida on criminal charges of child molestation and lewd conduct.
Consider how many have likely been hurt. Based on published news accounts, 42 women made accusations against Gilyard. Some of them were mere college students.Now 2 underage teen girls have reported Gilyard. That?s a total of 44.
And that?s just the ones we know about. How many more were so traumatized that they stayed silent?
Yet, even in the face of so many published accusations, ?Gilyard is said to be preaching and teaching at another church in Jacksonville.?
So where are the voices of Paige Patterson and Jerry Vines now? These two former Southern Baptist presidents were plenty willing to use their powerful voices to promoteGilyard. Why aren?t they now willing to use their powerful voices to get Gilyard out of the pulpit?
Why aren?t there other Southern Baptist leaders who are speaking up?
Why isn?t anyone in Southern Baptist leadership willing to take a stand and say how wrong it is to allow Gilyard in the pulpit?
Why isn?t anyone in Southern Baptist leadership willing to take a stand on behalf of the 44 known wounded women and girls? Aren?t 44 enough?
How many does it take?
:disgust
ADG
sarettah
11-24-2012 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberHustler
(Post 19330112)
What would Jesus have done?
Just check the bible:
Matthew 19:13-14
13 Then little children were brought to Jesus for him to place his hands on them
Mark 9:36-38
36 He took a little child and had him stand among them. Taking him in his arms
Mark 10:13
13 People were bringing little children to Jesus to have him touch them
Mark 10:16
16 And he took the children in his arms, put his hands on them
Luke 11:7
7“ Don't bother me. The door is already locked, and my children are with me in bed.
Luke 18:15
15 People were also bringing babies to Jesus to have him touch them
Luke 18:16
16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come "
John 21:5
Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat?
**Damn...the book of mormon is just as bad
70 Every member of the church of Christ having a children is to bring them unto the elders before the church, who are to lay their hands upon them in the name of Jesus Christ
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scottybuzz
11-24-2012 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ
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God bless America!
look at your own country you sarcastic idiot.
today we won't allow women to become bishops.
Dirty F
11-24-2012 02:08 PM
Good. Children should stay away from religion as far as possible.
L-Pink
11-24-2012 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ
(Post 19330105)
from coming to church so a convicted sex offender can carry on being a preacher there.
Right, like your rain drenched little rock isn't full of degenerate kid fuckers.
brassmonkey
11-24-2012 02:24 PM
:disgust :disgust
John-ACWM
11-25-2012 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam
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Moon walked on water?
:1orglaugh oops!
DamianJ
11-25-2012 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
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look at your own country you sarcastic idiot.
Great counterpoint, as ever.
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
(Post 19330645)
today we won't allow women to become bishops.
Yeah, comparing women to child molesters is an excellent point. What was I thinking?!?11oneone You have shown me the light of the stupidity of my point. Thank you.
MaDalton
11-25-2012 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F
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Good. Children should stay away from religion as far as possible.