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Grapesoda 12-16-2012 06:31 AM

Canadian SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
 
well are Canadian brothers have been pretty high and mighty about guns and schools shoots... and LOOK what the good ole' boys have been up to...


Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba October 10 1902 2

Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario May 28 1975 2
The Brampton Centennial Secondary School massacre was a school shooting, which occurred at Brampton Centennial Secondary School in Brampton, Ontario. 16-year-old gunman Michael Slobodian shot and killed a fellow student, a teacher and injured 13 other students before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide in a school hallway. It was the first school shooting in Canada. Slobodian is the first recorded high-school killer in the country

St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario October 27 1975 1 The St. Pius X High School shooting was a school shooting that occurred on October 27, 1975, at St. Pius X High School in Ottawa, Ontario. Robert Poulin, an 18-year-old St. Pius student, opened fire on his classmates with a shotgun killing one and wounding five before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. Poulin had raped and stabbed his 17-year-old friend Kim Rabot to death prior to the incident. A book entitled Rape of a Normal Mind was written about the incident.

Sturgeon Creek High School Winnipeg, Manitoba October 1978 1 A shooting at a vocational High School in Winnipeg when a A 17-year-old student shoots a 16-year-old to death at Sturgeon Creek Regional Secondary School in Winnipeg, allegedly for ridiculing the rock group Kiss. He is found not guilty of first-degree murder by reason of insanity.

École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec December 6 1989 14 The École Polytechnique Massacre, also known as the Montreal Massacre, occurred on December 6, 1989, at the École Polytechnique in Montreal, Quebec. Twenty-five-year-old Marc Lépine, armed with a legally obtained semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife, shot twenty-eight people, killing fourteen (all of them women) and injuring the other fourteen before killing himself.

Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec August 24 1992 4 The Concordia University massacre was a school shooting on August 24, 1992, that resulted in the deaths of four people at Concordia University in Montreal, Quebec. The shooter was Dr. Valery Fabrikant, a former Associate Professor of mechanical engineering at Concordia and a colleague of the slain men.

W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta April 28 1999 1 The W. R. Myers High School shooting occurred on April 28, 1999, at W. R. Myers High School in Taber, Alberta, when a 14-year-old walked into his school and randomly shot at three students, killing Jason Lang and injuring another.[19] This shooting took place only eight days after the Columbine High School Massacre, and is widely believed to have been a copycat crime.

Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec September 13 2006 1 The Dawson College shooting occurred on September 13, 2006, at Dawson College, a CEGEP in Westmount near downtown Montreal, Quebec. The perpetrator, Kimveer Gill, began shooting outside the de Maisonneuve Boulevard entrance to the school, and moved towards the atrium by the cafeteria on the main floor. One victim died at the scene, while another 19 were injured, eight of whom were listed in critical condition with six requiring surgery. The shooter later committed suicide by shooting himself in the head, after being shot in the arm by police.

C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario May 23 2007 1 Two 17-year-old Canadian citizens, whom the media can not identify under the provisions of Canada's Youth Criminal Justice Act, were arrested on May 27, 2007, and charged with the first-degree murder of a 15-year-old student at the C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute. Prior to one of the arrests, police had taken the unusual step of obtaining a judicial order to publish one suspect's name and photograph as he was considered armed and dangerous. Media reported his identity and photo, then had to take the stories off their websites after he was arrested hours later

Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario September 16 2008 1 A 16-year-old boy was shot in the chest in the school's parking lot following an altercation involving several people. No name has yet been released. On September 17, 2008, Toronto Police announced it had made 2 arrests of these shooting suspects; 18-year-old Mark Deicsics, has been charged with robbery while armed with a firearm and fail to comply with recognizance and the victim of the shooting and 16-year-old teen, has been charged with robbery while armed with a firearm. His name cannot be released under the limitation's in Canada's Youth Criminal Justice Act.

Central Technical School shooting Toronto, Ontario September 30 2010 0 At around 1:00 PM EST there was a confrontation between 4 students, at least one gunshot was fired from a semi-automatic pistol. The school was placed under lockdown until 4:45 pm EST. Two suspects were apprehended by the Toronto Police Service but were not charged, one fled and was sought as a suspect until 7:30 pm EST when he was taken into custody. It was discovered he was a victim. One teen currently remains to be apprehended, and no one was seriously hurt or killed.

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BIGTYMER 12-16-2012 06:44 AM

We're a bad influence on them.

V_RocKs 12-16-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19373019)

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jigga 12-16-2012 06:59 AM

Yeah, and if you add up all the dead in all those shootings it comes up to around 25 total. In all the incidents. Combined. And it would be around 10 if it wasn't for that Polytechnique incident which resulted in by far the largest body count. And surprise, surprise, it involved a semi-automatic weapon. Weapons that are banned out here now and for which there is no justification for a citizen to own.

So what's your point? That shit happens in countries with tighter gun laws?

Guns aren't illegal in Canada. I wish there were and then many of those shootings you listed above wouldn't have happened.

Look at the UK. Citizens are banned from owning firearms and the gun-related homicide rate per 100k is one of the lowest in the world (UK is 0.04, US is 74x higher at 2.98). More guns is not the way to stop gun violence, it's an absolutely absurd way of thinking, in my opinion.

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jigga (Post 19373034)
Yeah, and if you add up all the dead in all those shootings it comes up to around 25 total. In all the incidents. Combined. And it would be around 10 if it wasn't for that Polytechnique incident which resulted in by far the largest body count. And surprise, surprise, it involved a semi-automatic weapon. Weapons that are banned out here now and for which there is no justification for a citizen to own.

So what's your point? That shit happens in countries with tighter gun laws?

Guns aren't illegal in Canada. I wish there were and then many of those shootings you listed above wouldn't have happened.

Look at the UK. Citizens are banned from owning firearms and the gun-related homicide rate per 100k is one of the lowest in the world (UK is 0.04, US is 74x higher at 2.98). More guns is not the way to stop gun violence, it's an absolutely absurd way of thinking, in my opinion.

great stuff: FYI, the cat is out of the bag with guns... they aren't going away

GFED 12-16-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jigga (Post 19373034)
And surprise, surprise, it involved a semi-automatic weapon. Weapons that are banned out here now and for which there is no justification for a citizen to own.

So only flintlock and other single shot firearms are legal in Canada?

Dirty F 12-16-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19373046)
great stuff: FYI, the cat is out of the bag with guns... they aren't going away

You seem to be proud of that. That's pretty sick.

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19373074)
You seem to be proud of that. That's pretty sick.

realistic which you seem not to be... in fact I'll go ahead and state that you are intellectually arrogant.

you seem to be under the impression that you personally know how everyone should live and what they should or should not own.

it's people like this that cause genocide and war. and that my friend is pretty sick :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 12-16-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigga (Post 19373034)
Yeah, and if you add up all the dead in all those shootings it comes up to around 25 total. In all the incidents. Combined. And it would be around 10 if it wasn't for that Polytechnique incident which resulted in by far the largest body count. And surprise, surprise, it involved a semi-automatic weapon. Weapons that are banned out here now and for which there is no justification for a citizen to own.

So what's your point? That shit happens in countries with tighter gun laws?

Guns aren't illegal in Canada. I wish there were and then many of those shootings you listed above wouldn't have happened.

Look at the UK. Citizens are banned from owning firearms and the gun-related homicide rate per 100k is one of the lowest in the world (UK is 0.04, US is 74x higher at 2.98). More guns is not the way to stop gun violence, it's an absolutely absurd way of thinking, in my opinion.

84 people dead from mass shootings in 2012 alone in the US.

Jman 12-16-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19373051)
So only flintlock and other single shot firearms are legal in Canada?

Yup, y'ont won't see any wannabee cowboys flaunting their guns or their conceeled weapon badges in Canuckstikan

Rochard 12-16-2012 08:59 AM

Every country has issues like this. People kill people with guns, it's a fact. Even if guns are out lawed, people will still die from firearms.

SuckOnThis 12-16-2012 09:01 AM

20 kids get killed and this Grapesoda spends the next 2 days trying to justify it.

Go get some help man.

BIGTYMER 12-16-2012 09:01 AM

We need to start by banning porn. The filth!!

Best-In-BC 12-16-2012 09:20 AM

Its a part of society you cant get away from so stop looking for a exit

seeandsee 12-16-2012 09:36 AM

Why there is so much similar but only knife and cold weapon mass kills in china?

Helix 12-16-2012 10:03 AM

What year did the Canadian gun restriction become enacted and did it impact the gun violence as expected?

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 19373227)
What year did the Canadian gun restriction become enacted and did it impact the gun violence as expected?

l.usually gun crime goes up when guns are banned, I'd be interested as well

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19373136)
20 kids get killed and this Grapesoda spends the next 2 days trying to justify it.

Go get some help man.

why gives you the idea I'm trying too justify murder? odd conclusion on your part for sure, but then again you're probably trying to make me look like an ass so you can feel better about yourself? so.... fell better now?

that's pretty much the 'liberal' tactic from what I see... "you're a piece of shit because you do NOT agree with I WANT!" not, "I think your conclusion is not valid... BECAUSE" : intelligent discussion goes here:

......

SuckOnThis 12-16-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19373235)
why gives you the idea I'm trying too justify murder? odd conclusion on your part for sure, but then again you're probably trying to make me look like an ass so you can feel better about yourself? so.... fell better now?

that's pretty much the 'liberal' tactic from what I see... "you're a piece of shit because you do NOT agree with I WANT!" not, "I think your conclusion is not valid... BECAUSE" : intelligent discussion goes here:

......


Seriously, step out of that Montana backwoods shack and head down to the local mental health clinic. :2 cents:

Elli 12-16-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 19373227)
What year did the Canadian gun restriction become enacted and did it impact the gun violence as expected?

Guns were always controlled. Back when the railroad was being built, Americans were forced to leave their guns at the border, and they got pretty upset about that. (Don't have a link, that's from a Pierre Berton book.)

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/p...st/con-eng.htm

Pre-1892
Justices of the Peace had the authority to impose a six-month jail term on anyone carrying a handgun, if the person did not have reasonable cause to fear assault against life or property.

1892
The first Criminal Code required individuals to have a basic permit, known as a 'certificate of exemption,' to carry a pistol unless the owner had cause to fear assault or injury. It became an offence to sell a pistol to anyone under 16. Vendors who sold pistols or airguns had to keep a record of the purchaser's name, the date of the sale and information that could identify the gun.

1913
Carrying a handgun outside the home or place of business without a permit could result in a three-month sentence. It became an offence to transfer a firearm to any person under the age of 16, or for a person under 16 to buy one. The first specific search, seizure and forfeiture powers for firearms and other weapons were created.

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19373337)
Guns were always controlled. Back when the railroad was being built, Americans were forced to leave their guns at the border, and they got pretty upset about that. (Don't have a link, that's from a Pierre Berton book.)

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/p...st/con-eng.htm


1892
The first Criminal Code required individuals to have a basic permit, known as a 'certificate of exemption,' to carry a pistol unless the owner had cause to fear assault or injury. It became an offence to sell a pistol to anyone under 16. Vendors who sold pistols or airguns had to keep a record of the purchaser's name, the date of the sale and information that could identify the gun.

1913
Carrying a handgun outside the home or place of business without a permit could result in a three-month sentence. It became an offence to transfer a firearm to any person under the age of 16, or for a person under 16 to buy one. The first specific search, seizure and forfeiture powers for firearms and other weapons were created.

pretty sure these regulation are in effect right now in California? even stricter in fact..

MrBottomTooth 12-16-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19373051)
So only flintlock and other single shot firearms are legal in Canada?

No. I own many semi-auto guns.

Helix 12-16-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19373337)
Guns were always controlled. Back when the railroad was being built, Americans were forced to leave their guns at the border, and they got pretty upset about that. (Don't have a link, that's from a Pierre Berton book.)

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/p...st/con-eng.htm

Pre-1892
Justices of the Peace had the authority to impose a six-month jail term on anyone carrying a handgun, if the person did not have reasonable cause to fear assault against life or property.

1892
The first Criminal Code required individuals to have a basic permit, known as a 'certificate of exemption,' to carry a pistol unless the owner had cause to fear assault or injury. It became an offence to sell a pistol to anyone under 16. Vendors who sold pistols or airguns had to keep a record of the purchaser's name, the date of the sale and information that could identify the gun.

1913
Carrying a handgun outside the home or place of business without a permit could result in a three-month sentence. It became an offence to transfer a firearm to any person under the age of 16, or for a person under 16 to buy one. The first specific search, seizure and forfeiture powers for firearms and other weapons were created.

Thanks Elli :)

MrBottomTooth 12-16-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19373415)
No. I own many semi-auto guns.

However clip sizes are limited to 5 for semi auto rifles unless it is a 22.

sperbonzo 12-16-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigga (Post 19373034)
Yeah, and if you add up all the dead in all those shootings it comes up to around 25 total. In all the incidents. Combined. And it would be around 10 if it wasn't for that Polytechnique incident which resulted in by far the largest body count. And surprise, surprise, it involved a semi-automatic weapon. Weapons that are banned out here now and for which there is no justification for a citizen to own.

So what's your point? That shit happens in countries with tighter gun laws?

Guns aren't illegal in Canada. I wish there were and then many of those shootings you listed above wouldn't have happened.

Look at the UK. Citizens are banned from owning firearms and the gun-related homicide rate per 100k is one of the lowest in the world (UK is 0.04, US is 74x higher at 2.98). More guns is not the way to stop gun violence, it's an absolutely absurd way of thinking, in my opinion.

Yes. Look at the UK. The rate of violent crime is double that of the US....




.

Helix 12-16-2012 12:57 PM

Don't forget the horrific Norway attack

tony286 12-16-2012 01:07 PM

I dont think they should ban them but if they wanted to it could happen.once women couldnt vote and slavery was legal and both were in the constitution.

[Labret] 12-16-2012 01:25 PM

Don't believe for a second that the news of this tragedy has been met with anything but jubilation in Canada. An entire nation of cowards stumbling over their collective erections to dust off their government issued soap boxes. There are few things a Canadian loves more than dead Americans.

jigga 12-16-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19373426)
Yes. Look at the UK. The rate of violent crime is double that of the US.....

This is only the case because the UK has a higher rate of robberies and assaults. When it comes to rape, both countries are about even. And the US has a 3 times higher rate of murder per capita than the UK.

Getting robbed or getting in a bar fight is one thing. Getting murdered is quite another. I don't know about you but I'd much rather be a victim of the first two crimes rather than the last.

Elli 12-16-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19373426)
Yes. Look at the UK. The rate of violent crime is double that of the US....




.

Looking closer shows more, though.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/...d-States/Crime

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EddyTheDog 12-16-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19373426)
Yes. Look at the UK. The rate of violent crime is double that of the US....




.

What is the rate of victims of those crimes that end up injured or dead?

Grapesoda 12-16-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19373456)
I dont think they should ban them but if they wanted to it could happen.once women couldnt vote and slavery was legal and both were in the constitution.

not really sure 'slavery' was in the constitution and if I remember correctly only 'land owners' could vote


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