Chaturbate's Insane Rules
 

How many other sites make members jump thru crazy hoops to purchase tokens? I have girls bitching like crazy because guys are trying to spend money with them but Chaturbate makes them send a damn form, scan of cc and scan of their DL. That is insane. Cams are an impulse purchase this will kill revenue. Also girls tell me guys are being charged and never receive tokens. That will drive the money elsewhere. Stupid

They have to make more than 4 transactions a day before they need to do this and when they do they get 200 tokens free

sadly these things are needed to prevent chargebacks and fraudsters

So let me get this straight.

A cam girl is told by a cam user that they are unable to buy tokens because of chaturbate's rules, yet they really want to because they have LOADS of cash to spend so can the girl flash her pink bits now and they'll pay them later?

sounds legit!

this also :1orglaugh

I would guess that most off the cam sites are the same - If a new user has more than 4 buys in the first 24hrs the scrub kicks in.

I dare say it would apply to any site....

yup every site has his fraud protection in their own style, some let u only purchase $250 per month, others only let u do 4 transactions in a certain timespan.

I have a white label with webcamwiz and I have noticed that when a visitor spends a lot of money in one day, all of a sudden next day when I log in all that money that was spent is suddenly subtracted from my stats and shown as a chargeback.

Fucking sucks!

Just keep fucking your ass with that dildo the form is in motion and I will send tokens soon LOL

dumbasses will do anything to get a free titty

Well I never speak out of turn unlike most around here. Yes and it is a fact. If the wanker has spent 200$ he has reached his limit not in 1 day but lifetime. To purchase more he must complete a cc authorization form, scan front and back of the cc, and scan a photo id.
Now that is fucking crazy. Chargebacks, if you have decent protocols arent that damn difficult to deal with. A wanker gets all geeked up and then must go through these steps to rub one out lol. He will never go back, he will simply use the multitude of sites that dont require this mickey mouse bullshit

e-ver-y site will have a fraud protection program in use, 200$ lifetime spendings might be a little bit small, 200$ a month would be more reasonable. W
hy doesnt the girl forward him to another site she works on? :pimp

That's my point these fools are losing a fortune with chicken shit games

Hell we have guys that spend 2k a day with some girls

i agree that in this case they could raise the bar to like 200 bucks a month. been working with a site last year that got hit HARD by fraudsters last year, that joke almost made them go down, after they put anti fraud measurements in place, my girls earnings have gond down 80% on that site :1orglaugh

It is not a lifetime spend afaik. They have a daily limit / number of purchases.

If I look at the last 10 token buys by cb members i've sent there are 6 of the 10 who have spent more than $200 in total on cb tokens.

Out of the 6 over $200, only one is still in the 200's and out of the 4 who are below $200, none are over $100.

Looking at my experience with members buying tokens, it does not seem to stop them purchasing.

So real actual stats vs chinese whispers....who would you believe?

Whatever you say wise ass. You might be sending traffic but we work the damn site and have an account to stimulate the rooms occasionally and for the last 2 hours it is fucking impossible and support is non-existent. The site is a cartoon

Nice, I try to actually talk about facts and you resort to name calling. Good work :thumbsup

No wonder you're having problems.

Well your incessant denials are not reality

Constant server issues, models many times cant convert tokens, the assortment of issues are more than troublesome. I have been sitting in one of my models rooms for 2 hours because a regular member "claimed" could not tip. So I tired and the same damn thing he described has been happening to me for that entire period. Others in her room "claim" the same problem and since it is happening to me I tend to believe them. Based on her normal earnings she has lost $200 tonight.

"ALERT: You Have Reached Your Spending Limit!
You have reached your spending limit on our site. To avoid this happening to you again and to immediately get your account active you can VERIFY the credit card you are using on your account. This will remove any transaction and dollar amount restrictions going forward. Additionally you will receive 200 FREE tokens once your account has been confirmed and verified!
Click Here To Verify Your Account Now!"

"To help us prevent credit card fraud, please download and complete the following Credit Card Authorization Form to increase your spending limit.
*To thank you for verifying, members who've purchased will be given 200 tokens free.
Print and complete the Credit Card Authorization Form (PDF Download)
Send us a scanned copy, fax, or clear photo of the completed credit card authorization form and the front and back of your credit card and drivers license."

I dont think many geeked up wankers will bother to do this and those few that do will be more than dissatisfied when it takes hours, if not days to accomplish.

if there are so many issues, why are you still hanging around there?

getting the girls off actually ;)

Chaturbate is LEGIT :thumbsup

whats is your cam site man? Hit me up via email if you dont want to post here
I need more cam sites

Hmmm, anybody worried about identity theft? Scan your CC and DL?

Nope. It's to protect against fraud.

At least a 3rd of users I have on revshare at chaturbate have spent more than a grand, so the limit isn't stopping everybody.

So are you just here to bash a successful site or do you have a real problem? I believe legit buyers can just fax in a ID and have all those annoying rules removed.

there are a good chunk of people will never do it though. i know i wouldn't. do places myfreecams do this?

Yes a big % of guys would never email copy of his ID and/or Credit card to a porn site, esp. one so full of naked hairry guys from china and pakistan in home page. Also it is a violation of credit card rules to store a full copy of a credit card (with all the numbers visible in it), it would be barely allowed if the guy sent it with most of the numbers canceled (which anyway requires photoshop skills and time to do).
This means these guys will never buy more than the limit, simply will wait next day or period and spend up to the limit, lifetime, nothing more.

Further, some smart carders, will google for passports images, always there idiots who upload their passport scans on internet, so they send you scans of those idiots they found with google image search, and use their names in forms - where this is proof of anything? And if chargeback is made in Epoch or other third party biller for ex., you can't reverse it no matter you got documents, that's final; you can do re-present a chargeback for own merchant, we do and some time "win" and get money back, but it very depends, and having those documents it does not helps much, after chargeback happened - it more depends this is a private or business card and other stuff.

So in general I find myself not so useful to ask ID's or scans, as 1) these can be fake too, and some (virtual) stolen cards are accepted even if specify "Santa Claus" as cardholder name, 2) does not help after a chargeback happened, 3) 95% of the people will never send that to a site but especialyl a porn one full of third world users, and 4) it may be illegal to store a copy of that depending on country of customers and cam company, and be sued for that.

There's better ways to check for carders, for takes quite lots of time, includes see if the guy chats like a 15 year old pakistani rather than an 18+ US citizen as he claimed.

At this moment im actually more concerned about some models scamming the site :(

I have to new Models from Eastern European Countries making huge sales there right from the first week.
And they have basicly no profile or pics uploaded and almost no followers.

I review Stats and indeed seems that the purchases have been made from different members, but still im somehow concerned 3000 in a week is not that common.

Do someone has a contact for Chaturbate Support that they actually respond to ?

[QUOTE=LatinCams;19424404]I have to new Models from Eastern European Countries making huge sales there right from the first week.QUOTE]

I wish you the best of luck, but what the fuck are you talking about? If I had to handle support and deal with this nonsense, I would just tell you to straight up to "Fuck Off", or at least ask you to hire someone who can speak English.

hmmmm and no dna samples? they are too relaxed in their security measures :2 cents:

what is your old nick that was banned ?

Whats so hard to understand? He has new models delivering content to the site with unusually high generated revenue for a new model and he is concerned the models are perhaps working with carders. This is the type of studio you want as a cam site as opposed to so many of them that reward their models for getting in bed (figuratively and literally) with carders and support should respond ASAP. Sadly support at Chaturbate is non-existent.

[QUOTE=tfs;19424828]Fucking Moron !!!

Yeah just hope that Chaturbate dont come to me next weeks with a huge ChargeBack or bloking my account, since I have been trying to find about this issue in every way :(

Cam companies have been doing open ended verifications for fucking years. Whales do not give a shit. It's their life.

Nothing to see here folks, except some amateurs that do not know how an open ended credit line online works, and what a company needs to do to dor all of it's Is and cross it's Ts

[QUOTE=tfs;19424828]LOL if a cam site didn't supported who can't speak English then there woud be no any cam girls in such a site.

that is not accurate :2 cents:

all cam girls are making shit in the last few days...has nothing to do with verification and shit this was always in place...people are broke after new years...

amen to this!
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