SEO & Domain Geniuses: Which is the better domain deal?
 

Which would be the better investment?

CumCum.com -- $6000 (6 Chars + Double Keyword)
Cumzy.com -- $1700 (5 Chars + Catchy & Brandable)

My first instinct says the first one is a better buy, but there are plenty of meaningless domains that have become household words... Twitter, Tumblr, Napster, Reddit, etc, etc...

So I'm on the fence. Interested to know your thoughts.

Finally... If you're interested in selling a killer .com similar to the ones listed above let's talk.
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Both are a rip off.

CumCum.com $1300
Cumzy.com $0

I would register a .xxx domain since there are plenty of 2 word domains available. :2 cents:

Ok Smut. So would Smutly.com be worth $0 too?

I agree with you that the asking prices above seem a bit steep. But it's easier to buy a brand off the shelf than it is to build one from scratch. That has to be worth something.

On the other hand, XNXX meant nothing to no one back in 2003. Now what's it worth 10 years later?

Uh yeah. No. :1orglaugh .xxx is a joke in my view.

Your thread title was about SEO domains. Now you are talking about brandables. Which did you want to discuss?

There are plenty of $0 brandable domains out there that you can probably pick up for RegFee. As far as SEO goes, CumCum.com is much better than Cumzy.com.

In my mind, a premium domain is a shortcut to notoriety. Ideally, you can buy a premium domain that is both highly brandable AND seo friendly.

I suppose that is the crux of the discussion -- is the extra SEO-ability of CumCum.com $4300 better than Cumzy.com.

Based on what you've said thusfar, neither domain is worth the asking price.

That's a fair opinion. And I'm inclined to agree with you, but I would rather own the Cumzy.com brand at $1700 than settle for CumEruptions.com for $15.

cumzi.com
cumhoo.com
cumize.com
cumized.com
cumopolis.com
cumtazy.com
cumary.com
cumory.com
cumery.com

These are all available for regfee. Save yourself the extra $ and buy some traffic to one of them. That's my :2 cents:

but you do realize that most of the people who were hating the .xxx extension did buy .xxx domains, it's just like the tubes, they complain about them but also run a token tube website.

Personally those domains are not the best, I would keep searching for a decent domain for a lower cost.

What niche are you trying to promote?

I would be inclined to agree that neither are worth their asking price. That said, from an SEO perspective, CumCum.com being a 17 year old domain and at least closer to a generic than Cumzy.com (which is 4 years old) would be worth a lot more in SEO value I think. I don't think 4 years old is THAT much better than going with a new domain and you could probably find a short brandable with Cum that isn't much worse if at all worse than Cumzy.

That said, do you absolutely need Cum in the domain? We have adult domains for sale for far less including many high search exact match domains which are what people usually go for if they're trying to get search traffic. Additionally, for a fee, I could help you find something on the market that'd be a better deal than those 2 domains if you don't like anything we have.

If a .xxx reg could be shown to have 10+ times the SEOability of a .com reg given it costs that much more, then it might cease to be the laughing stock extension that it is. Otherwise, it will continue.

I have still not actually encountered a .xxx site other than sigs/posts here and domain blog posts talking about .xxx sales.

XNXX is only worth something because of the content and work that was put into it. Without that. its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Same goes for the domains you are showing. If they already have content on them and are making money, then I can see these values. If they are just the domains. I agree with most that they are not worth the money. You can probably get something better then cumcum for 1k and spend 5k on marketing..

Also, google giving advantage to domains because of the name and not content is not what it used to be.

Less SE traffic is a small price to pay if you have a brandable .xxx domain, content is king. Although most of my traffic to my Asian/Japanese niche is SEO from great keyword search domains for the niche.

XNXX is not worth what it is because of the domain name, buy one for 8 bucks and make a site worth something

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If it actually makes a difference as a brand vs. a .com that would cost you the same, then sure. My personal opinion is that you'd have to have a brand way more than 10 times as good on a .xxx to make up for the extension. Perhaps in due time that may change, but for now .com and even the better of the .com alternatives are more established and visible than .xxx.

I don't doubt there are some .xxx domains that could reeally make an impact, but I think most of them were grabbed by Frank Schilling and Mike Berkens from the premiums that ICM held.

I do agree .com is the best extension for all types of content, but as far as adult goes I like .com, .xxx, and .net a distant 3rd. A domain flipper on these boards did mention that the .xxx extension looks like another word in the domain which is a negative. Basically my point was if he was so desperate for a domain with cum in it, he most likely find something available in .xxx, in fact a lot of people are dropping good domains since they feel they are worthless. I am in escrow now on a .xxx domain that will be my largest investment in a domain. It's a 4 letter one. :pimp

Good luck with it. Funny you mention .net - my largest investment was a .net and made 50% profit on a flip inside a year - which was far less than I wanted. There are certainly opportunities in every extension, and I think if .xxx wasn't essentially looted before it was launched, there could have been some really nice ones. As-is though, I'm not so sure. The ones that have been posted in Buy/Sell have generally been laughable.

Here is the main point:

Both domains are not worth their asking price.

XNXX is what he got for the Registration FEE only because XXX wasn't available.

So he made XNXX into a brand.

So what we are all saying is that neither domain is worth anything right now. You would be better off getting something else for the regfee and going with that. It would have just as much ability to get results in SEO.

Ask yourself this: Did twitter.com check to make sure the domain was 10 years old before they opened their company?

More to the point though: Are you planning on creating a destination like Twitter.com and XNXX.com or are you planning on hoping to make something worth a surfers time, but are completely unsure if it will work?

In either case the answer is both of those domains are priced out of being for your needs.

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One critical point that I think some of you are missing is this... Twitter would NOT be what it is today if they'd chosen some 10-12 letter monstrosity of a domain. MicroBlogger.com is a pretty good domain, but it just wouldn't have worked as well, right?

The same can be said for XNXX, PornHub and a thousand other destination sites. There were a million Thumb TGPs at one time but a comparative few flourished the way XNXX did. Same with the tubes. There are a million of them, but only a couple dozen -- or less -- became mega name brands.

Of course I agree with what has already been said... None of these mega brands would be what they are without the content they offer. BUT! Jillions of these Tubes and TGPs offer the same (or very similar) content that the big dawgs provide. So it's not JUST about the content. It's about marketing and word of mouth. And it's WAY easier for the masses to grasp onto Porn.com than XXXVidz.com

So to me it's somewhat irrelevant that some guys get lucky and turn $15 domains into a mega brand. It happens, sure. But the bottom line is... either the name/brand is right or it's not. It either works or it doesn't.

The domain matters. The brand matters. And under the right circumstances, it's worth paying for.

Having said all that... I don't think either of the domains I listed in the OP are mega-brand capable.

Thanks for the discussion, guys. Stimulating.

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Indeed. I noticed tonight that SEX.COM is ranked around 160 in G for the word "sex". Ouch. $13Million and they can't even rank in the top 100.

And for what it's worth, I don't think G puts as much weight on domain age as everyone says. I noticed SEX.COM was first registered 18 years ago (1995). I'm not saying that age is irrelevant. Just saying that once a domain passes a one or two year threshold it's not nearly as important as some people claim.

Awesome - maybe you should tell CreditCards.com, Hotels.com and Cars.com that they better change their domains or they'll risk losing the #1 ranking they've had for years over their much bigger competitors. Those rankings are only worth millions of dollars per month, I'm sure they'll want to rebrand right away before they lose that traffic. :)

One example does not a trend make, and especially Sex.com. Sex.com has had to "start from scratch" so many times over the course of its registration that it probably has absolute shit for SEO value compared to other domains. I'm sure given it's always been a shitty site that clickthroughs, bounce rate, time on site etc. have all been shitty compared to other sites too. Exact match domains can't work miracles.

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And most of those people have since let their .xxx expire after they realized they were worthless. .xxx has proven to have no better seo benefits over any other extension so why bother paying the steep reg fees of .xxx and just pay $10 for a nice brandable short domain on of the other dozen or so extensions available.