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halfpint 01-15-2013 01:52 PM

How much are you paying your accountant ?
 
I mainly work offline now but I am still self employed and this year my accountant fees just went up by £30 pounds. Was paying £320 pounds per year now its gone up to £350 pounds per year. How much are you paying for your accountant or has the fees gone up as well ?

Also how many of you keep all your incomings and outgoings on computer ? or do u just use the old fashion way of paper like I do.
I only use the computer for submitting daily reports of my earnings to the company I work for which I do keep and also recieve on paper at the end of the month, my earnings from them. I also keep a record on paper of everything I have earned for each day which my accountant uses along with all the receipts ect

scottybuzz 01-15-2013 01:55 PM

fuck i paid £900 this year. looks like i need to find someone new.

halfpint 01-15-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19426598)
fuck i paid £900 this year. looks like i need to find someone new.

wow are u serious that guy is ripping you off :2 cents:

Sly 01-15-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19426603)
wow are u serious that guy is ripping you off :2 cents:

It's impossible to make that judgment without knowing more about his financial set up.

Dirty F 01-15-2013 02:01 PM

Huh? I pay 100 euros per hour.

BlackCrayon 01-15-2013 02:02 PM

for a one man setup, i don't see why you don't just do it yourself.

Relentless 01-15-2013 02:03 PM

You are much better off paying a good accountant a fair wage for his work than paying the government for the faulty work you got done 'cheaply' by a bad accountant... Accountants are like coders, "cheap" is not what you really want even if it is what you think you want. I love when idiots like H&R Block advertise they will get you the 'maximum tax refund' - I wonder where they are when you get audited and it turns out you owe penalties and fines for shortcuts they took to make you feel like they saved you money. It's your liability, not theirs, so a bad accountant is gambling with you bankrolling them... not the other way around.

halfpint 01-15-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19426609)
You are much better off paying a good accountant a fair wage for his work than paying the government for the faulty work you got done 'cheaply' by a bad accountant... Accountants are like coders, "cheap" is not what you really want even if it is what you think you want. I love when idiots like H&R Block advertise they will get you the 'maximum tax refund' - I wonder where they are when you get audited and it turns out you owe penalties and fines for shortcuts they took to make you feel like they saved you money. It's your liability, not theirs, so a bad accountant is gambling with you bankrolling them... not the other way around.

you may be right this is the second year I have used him and he is a guy on his own but i end up only paying around 18% tax instead of 25% which to me is pretty good I only found him through a friend who also uses him

halfpint 01-15-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19426607)
for a one man setup, i don't see why you don't just do it yourself.

haha tried that online with self assement I gave up after an hour or so

Struggle4Bucks 01-15-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19426596)
I mainly work offline now but I am still self employed and this year my accountant fees just went up by £30 pounds. Was paying £320 pounds per year now its gone up to £350 pounds per year. How much are you paying for your accountant or has the fees gone up as well ?

Also how many of you keep all your incomings and outgoings on computer ? or do u just use the old fashion way of paper like I do.
I only use the computer for submitting daily reports of my earnings to the company I work for which I do keep and also recieve on paper at the end of the month, my earnings from them. I also keep a record on paper of everything I have earned for each day which my accountant uses along with all the receipts ect

I pay around 350 euros every 3 months...

pornguy 01-15-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19426609)
You are much better off paying a good accountant a fair wage for his work than paying the government for the faulty work you got done 'cheaply' by a bad accountant... Accountants are like coders, "cheap" is not what you really want even if it is what you think you want. I love when idiots like H&R Block advertise they will get you the 'maximum tax refund' - I wonder where they are when you get audited and it turns out you owe penalties and fines for shortcuts they took to make you feel like they saved you money. It's your liability, not theirs, so a bad accountant is gambling with you bankrolling them... not the other way around.

If they sign the prepared by, then they legally have to have a rep available in case of audit.

v4 media 01-15-2013 03:10 PM

I file my own returns, but I did work at an accountants for 5 years, so know what I'm doing.
Self employed, not a company so nothing complicated.

Relentless 01-16-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19426623)
If they sign the prepared by, then they legally have to have a rep available in case of audit.

And YOU have to pay for any mistakes they made or chances they took that come out during the audit. You are the house... he is only the dealer. When he loses, it comes out of your bank, not his - so he can take chances and look like a genius for years until you get audited and owe for anything he did along the way while he has virtually zero liability unless he did something egregiously illegal. :2 cents:

Klen 01-16-2013 12:23 PM

0$,i do it by myself :)

Emil 01-16-2013 12:27 PM

$1500 USD... Too lazy to find a cheaper one...

Minte 01-16-2013 12:28 PM

The outside firm that does our compilations,yearend,proforma's...I have put someones kids through Harvard. Our internal accountants. Not as much.

Lykos 01-16-2013 12:36 PM

Fuck that's cheap, i pay 500 eur a month for all :(

mineistaken 01-16-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lykos (Post 19428370)
Fuck that's cheap, i pay 500 eur a month for all :(

I am pretty sure this thread is confusing because some (and OP) are talking about accountants to do their personal taxes (you know those that we - you and me do by ourselves) and you are speaking about accountant for your business.

2 different things mixed up in this thread :)

Webmaster Advertising 01-16-2013 05:00 PM

We pay our guy around $1000 a year depending on ow many of our companies he prepares the accounts for, that being said, we also use him for random financial business stuff throughout the year so he cuts us a break on his fees for tax purposes.

SilentKnight 01-16-2013 05:28 PM

Our accountant charges clients $800 to do their corporate year-end.

But since it's my father-in-law...he insists we pay him with a chinese food buffet meal. :)

Equitable trade.

RazorSharpe 01-16-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19426623)
If they sign the prepared by, then they legally have to have a rep available in case of audit.

Not so in the UK. If YOU sign off on their end accounts YOU are liable for ANY penalties.

vdbucks 01-16-2013 05:51 PM

We use turbotax and file ourselves... Not that hard if you keep your books in order...

L-Pink 01-16-2013 05:55 PM

I pay $175.00 an hour. Usually 3-4 hours per quarter. Extra three to compile and file at end of year.


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