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Dirty F 02-02-2013 05:46 AM

Let's stop this myth: searing meat
 
Even the most famous chefs always talk about searing meat to keep the juices inside.
It's 100% bullshit.
I think 99% of people cooking actually believe in this myth.

DamianJ 02-02-2013 05:50 AM

It's nothing to do with keeping juices inside.

You sear it to cause the Maillard reaction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction

Dirty F 02-02-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458265)
It's nothing to do with keeping juices inside.

You sear it to cause the Maillard reaction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction

Find me 1 chef that doesn't at one point says sear the meat to keep the juices inside.

DamianJ 02-02-2013 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19458267)
Find me 1 chef that doesn't at one point says sear the meat to keep the juices inside.

me?

and Heston, which is where I learned about the Maillard thing.

Dirty F 02-02-2013 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458269)
me?

and Heston, which is where I learned about the Maillard thing.

Yeah i don't expect him to not know that.
Anyway stop acting like it's common knowledge because it's not.

Freedom6995 02-02-2013 06:07 AM

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Dirty F 02-02-2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom6995 (Post 19458275)
Franck, I left you an ICQ a few days ago.

Yes, i lost it and couldn't figure out who it was. Leave me another message and i'll get back to you on monday.

Freedom6995 02-02-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19458276)
Yes, i lost it and couldn't figure out who it was. Leave me another message and i'll get back to you on monday.

done...nothing urgent...

purecane 02-02-2013 06:56 AM

the maillard reaction is carmelizing the edges of the meat...by doing so the blood remains trapped inside the meat...soooo, although the reaction is not making your steak juicier, it is helping said steak retain flavor. you're welcome

Penny24Seven 02-02-2013 08:09 AM

you seem like a very happy guy never bitching about every single thing in life you do not like LOL

C.Carnato 02-02-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19458360)
you seem like a very happy guy never bitching about every single thing in life you do not like LOL

:upsidedow

v4 media 02-02-2013 08:26 AM

You should let meat rest to keep the juices in, searing is for flavour.

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Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19458301)
the maillard reaction is carmelizing the edges of the meat...by doing so the blood remains trapped inside the meat...soooo, although the reaction is not making your steak juicier, it is helping said steak retain flavor. you're welcome

There shouldn't be 'blood' in meat. You should buy properly hung meat. There is some moisture caused by the heat.. it is not blood though. Blood taints meat fast, I worked in a butchers for 3 years in my youth so I know this first hand.

Coup 02-02-2013 08:26 AM

I "seared" my "meat" this morning and the "juices" squirted right into the waste basket. MYTH BUSTED

Sly 02-02-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19458264)
Even the most famous chefs always talk about searing meat to keep the juices inside.
It's 100% bullshit.
I think 99% of people cooking actually believe in this myth.

Have you seen the episode of Good Eats where Alton Brown proves that it does nothing for the juiciness?

It does add flavor and texture, but no juiciness. Also bugs me when I hear chefs say it. Makes you wonder if they haven't done enough testing on their own to see actual results?

CurrentlySober 02-02-2013 08:32 AM

i like meat...

CurrentlySober 02-02-2013 08:32 AM

MAN MEAT..

8Char

TrashyContent 02-02-2013 08:58 AM

Yes...
 
I always sear my steak... nice piece of Aberdeen Angus Dry Aged Fillet or Wagyu Fillet... nom nom !

DamianJ 02-02-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyContent (Post 19458397)
Wagyu Fillet... nom nom !

Unless you're spending hundreds of dollars, and have an *exceptionally* well connected butcher, it's unlikely you're getting real Wagyu beef. Americans have been being conned about this for years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolm...e-beef-in-u-s/

onwebcam 02-02-2013 09:13 AM

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dyna mo 02-02-2013 09:30 AM

lol, you know, i always wonder if i am searing wrong because i always notice it never locked in the juices. i didn't concern myself with it too much so i never researched it or brought it up in discussion.

i do like the flavor from searing but it is finally good to know i've been doing it right all along and the point of searing is to add flavor not lock in the juices.

seeandsee 02-02-2013 09:35 AM

http://bbq.about.com/od/grillinghelp/a/aa032805a.htm

BareBacked 02-02-2013 11:24 AM

How is it bullshit?

If you cook a steam on a super hot grill FAST it will be way "juicier" than if you slow cook it

FACT

BareBacked 02-02-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19458428)
lol, you know, i always wonder if i am searing wrong because i always notice it never locked in the juices. i didn't concern myself with it too much so i never researched it or brought it up in discussion.

i do like the flavor from searing but it is finally good to know i've been doing it right all along and the point of searing is to add flavor not lock in the juices.

whoa the man with the sexy abs is back.

Where did you go Mr. Mo ?

DamianJ 02-02-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19458592)
How is it bullshit?

If you cook a steam on a super hot grill FAST it will be way "juicier" than if you slow cook it

FACT

No it won't.

FACT.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...JaHW0QWC_oHYAw

red-xxx 02-02-2013 11:43 AM

Get proper Welsh Wagyu boyos :thumbsup

arock10 02-02-2013 12:11 PM

I sear steak cause the results are prettier then microwaving it

Sly 02-02-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19458592)
How is it bullshit?

If you cook a steam on a super hot grill FAST it will be way "juicier" than if you slow cook it

FACT

You are talking about two different methods of cooking the meat, that is not a simple sear.

Why would you slow cook a steak? You are most likely drying it out.

dyna mo 02-02-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19458595)
whoa the man with the sexy abs is back.

Where did you go Mr. Mo ?


ola amigo! well, i had a series of family, personal and health situations that all happened that i struggled to put behind me.

but that's all behind me now! :thumbsup


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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458599)


are you saying he is misteaken?

:upsidedow

TrashyContent 02-02-2013 12:55 PM

Hmmm...
 
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458411)
Unless you're spending hundreds of dollars, and have an *exceptionally* well connected butcher, it's unlikely you're getting real Wagyu beef. Americans have been being conned about this for years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolm...e-beef-in-u-s/

Luckily I am not American... and they sell it in Asda lol... If it's real or not who knows, next you'll be telling me they put horse meat in Tesco Beedburgers... oh wait :error

grumpy 02-02-2013 01:01 PM

you and your wiki wisdoms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Searing

BareBacked 02-02-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19458672)
You are talking about two different methods of cooking the meat, that is not a simple sear.

Why would you slow cook a steak? You are most likely drying it out.

I would never . That is why I sear it and its nice and juicy inside

BareBacked 02-02-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19458675)
ola amigo! well, i had a series of family, personal and health situations that all happened that i struggled to put behind me.

but that's all behind me now! :thumbsup





are you saying he is misteaken?

:upsidedow



Glad you are back and those things are behind you.

:thumbsup

BareBacked 02-02-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458599)


I dont care what the internet says. Cooking a steak on a hot grill for a short time makes them the juiciest yumm

pornmasta 02-02-2013 10:38 PM

it's function of the water in the steak.
If the fire is too weak, you remove the water from the steak and it cooks in his water.
That's not the best thing to do to cook meat.

For The LOVE Of Porn 02-03-2013 04:43 AM

ya gotta sear it man, ya just gotta!

Dirty F 02-03-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19458768)
I would never . That is why I sear it and its nice and juicy inside

Searing a steak to keep it juicy is a myth. Maybe you missed the rest of this thread?
It's juicy because it isn't in the pan too long. It really isn't rocket science.
And saying you would never slow cook meat is weird. There are many cuts of meat that need to be slow cooked.

JSWENSON 02-03-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458599)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19459588)
Searing a steak to keep it juicy is a myth. Maybe you missed the rest of this thread?
It's juicy because it isn't in the pan too long. It really isn't rocket science.
And saying you would never slow cook meat is weird. There are many cuts of meat that need to be slow cooked.

You two can do this all day, and you are right about it somewhat, but your main problem is that you don't understand what people are talking about.

No, searing meat does not make the moisture / juices / whatever in the meat stay there any more than not searing it.

Want to know what it does do though? It melts the shit out of the fat which leads to a steak that is more juicy (and much tastier) than one that is not seared. I know everyone has been to a horrible restaurant and gotten a t-bone or rib-eye steak where the fat is impossible to chew or even akin to gristle. If you sear one properly that tough fat is liquidized into a stream of flavor which makes the steak more juicy. More juices does in fact = a more juicy steak which is what everyone arguing with you is talking about. The exact mechanics of why is wholly unimportant.

JSWENSON 02-03-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19458592)
How is it bullshit?

If you cook a steam on a super hot grill FAST it will be way "juicier" than if you slow cook it

FACT

They seem to be absolutely stuck on this so I'd give up. Once a know it all decides to tell you what they know you have no chance of changing their minds. Also, I just posted what I mean when I say searing a steak makes it more juicy, it's probably the same reason you've noticed this as well.

Mr Pheer 02-03-2013 09:31 AM

I've always thought it was just for flavor. I'd never heard of it making meat be juicer... that doesnt really even make sense to me.

JSWENSON 02-03-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19458381)
Have you seen the episode of Good Eats where Alton Brown proves that it does nothing for the juiciness?

It does add flavor and texture, but no juiciness. Also bugs me when I hear chefs say it. Makes you wonder if they haven't done enough testing on their own to see actual results?

I like how this sarcastic article handles this argument so I'll just link it here.

http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/coo...linjuices1.htm

..."In recent years, however, the pendulum has swung the other way, with large numbers of people now declaring the theory to be pure nonsense ? a myth, like fairies or leprechauns. It's been "debunked," they say, by "science."
Introducing the "Debunkers"
You can easily identify one of these "debunkers" by the distinct air of superiority they adopt in chat rooms, message boards and blogs ? anywhere the topic of searing and moisture loss is being discussed.

Ironically (though not, perhaps, surprisingly), they've bought into this supposed debunking with the same blind credulity they attribute to those on the other side of the argument: They've simply heard or read that searing doesn't seal in juices, found the argument to be compelling, and then just filed it away under "things I've decided to believe."

The only trouble is, they're wrong."

Seems fitting considering the tone of the naysayers here.

Kasumi 02-03-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 19459776)
I've always thought it was just for flavor. I'd never heard of it making meat be juicer... that doesnt really even make sense to me.

It's not to keep the juices in. Not one real chef mentions his.

Frank is a troll.

JSWENSON 02-03-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19458599)

All that cocksuredness and you are 100% wrong.

I find it hilarious.


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