Who Are The Biggest Programs? Do you trust them?
 

Name them. Who are the biggest programs out there?

Do you prefer to work with bigger programs where you can promote multiple sites/niches and your payment be compiled for all? Do you tend to find that bigger programs become generic and you convert better with small, extremely niched sites/programs?

I haven't been an affiliate or pushed traffic in years but always had good results with mixing them up and sometimes the smaller, less promoted networks do just as well as the big ones. :2 cents:

I think it all depends on your niche to establish who is the biggest. I have a small list of sponsors I promote. All of them have been around for years and I know them personally so I trust them.

I put a lot of stock in vibes and attitudes from their reps on forums as far as who to trust. Owners typically hire employees based on their preferences and expectations so how their employees act speaks volumes as to how the company is on the inside and their ethics. GFY is an invaluable tool in this way. :)

Media Revenue is pretty big. ...

Doesn't necessarily mean you should promote them though.

Some of the biggest programs, the older ones, are shady as fuck. Actually most of them are. They all seem to exist for 1 thing anymore. Fucking over the surfer as much as they can.

OK, I agree, some of the older big programs- and small ones - are shady as fuck. Just ast some of the current big and small and medium programs are too.

But now - Who are the big ones and which ones are trustworthy?

We aren't the biggest, but you can trust us. We ain't going anywhere and we are actually growing. See sig...

i like the people in my sig and there amazing site

I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $

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Quoted for the truth. From personal experiences in the family, when it comes down to business and money, never ever trust your entourage including and especially your closest friends as well as your own relatives. They will stab you in the back for far less than you may think.

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I just type in the programs name, using the search function on this board.

Learn from others mistakes.

Adult Friend Finder still pays out after over 12 years and Fetish Hits still pays out as well for us.

Hey girl.. long time no see :-)

lol, sell out :)

I would say Topbucks is pretty big. I would say I trust them. You never hear a bad word about pimproll. I dont really promote them but I know they are big and have a good reputation. Datinggold for dating and webcams I would say is pretty big. I trust them. Just to name a few big ones.

Homegrown Video, trusted amateur since 1982
 

Not only can I name companies that I trust but I can say very specifically why I trust them and why they deserve your trust as well.

When we were in the Acacia law suit, all the companies that participated in the Defense Group, the ones that really fought, not the ones that claimed to donate but did not, the ones that really went the distance... well they all had to show their books and have full disclosure and deal with all sorts of intrusive requests for documentation per deposition.

ONLY COMPANIES THAT WERE WILLING TO BE THAT HONEST ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, their books, their proprietary trade secrets, etc., WERE ABLE TO EVEN JOIN THE GROUP.

Only companies that are honest to such a degree as that are ones that I would trust, like ATK and Gamelink to name a couple as memory serves.

I trust very few companies, especially large ones. Not going to make a list or anything, but this business is just too shady and full of shit bags to have any real trust. That goes for billing companies, pay sites, and so on. I've always looked at the porn business as a high risk business and expect some degree of loss, so if it happens I'm not really surprised.

Big does not mean trustworthy. Neither does small. But usually the big ones either are shady or end up shady. Cheesy and obviously BS board reps don't help their case either, saying dumb things like, "we're converting like it's 1999." Instantly lands them on the shady list. Sometimes trying too hard and being too fake about it makes you look like you're up to no good.

Not the biggest, but we have been here for Webmasters for over 13 years.
Trust means that your check shows up on time and never bounces.

Roald, over the years I produced content for several programs and I can think of several that are very straight ahead :2 cents:

You can always trust PIMPROLL.

regarding over saturation we still have a number of niches that aren't blanketed everywhere that have converted exceedingly well over the years. Feel free to hit me up to go over what may or may not work for you. I was never one for smoke and mirrors ;)

Every once in a while we do get something like that. I can't say that about everything but some sites we've done lately have performed awesome. Is that a crime?

Doing some ex-members mailers there is a few I can say I trust no doubt ;)

We are not one of the biggest, but then again I don't know makes a program big. We have been around since 2000 and still going strong. We are solid, you can trust us.

"Big" can mean many things, but I would say 12 years later and growing, we are healthy.

We like to pride ourselves on being real people, not shady salesmen, I refuse to pretend to be 'that guy' and throw around jargon. I have seen emails from other programs with pitches so bad they come off as spam.

Our company was founded by an Affiliate and true lover of porn, no investment bullshit here. We are almost always available to talk shop, discuss concerns, etc.. and anything else for that matter. (I'm a huge film fan so i'm always open to those discussions as well.) :thumbsup

Pornpros, Bangbros and Pimproll i personally trust only because i know the people behind them.

there are also european companies like cashdorado.com or partnercash.com that are in the biz for more than 10+ years and that we work with almost since our start 10 years ago

they have paid us a lot and never missed one single payment

I can think of a whole lot who are very honest and straight ahead too. However fully trusting? Meh....

I would agree. Topbucks has been one of the best i have ever dealt with if not the best and never heard anything bad about pimproll either. In fact I dont ever really remember any drama on these boards ever about those 2 companies...kinda says everything to tell you the truth. :2 cents:

Use your best judgement... and keep your guard up :thumbsup

If you're converting a program and they're paying you. I'd ride that till the cows come home.

Personally.. if I knew my siggy was cheating affs. I wouldnt put my real name on it nor make friends with affiliates :2 cents:

That's just me :)

I am willing to know if anybody does money from Bangbros.

I have had an account and send them traffic but never had a subscription.

By the way, i joined bangbros once with my own URL and affiliate code and it did not appear in the stats.

So for me it is a scam.

Good question here guys !

Not to full ourself but we are pretty good as a MOBILE affiliate program. if "Big" means "quality" and "knowledge", we 're in the business for 10 years now and so far the clients are satisfied with their cash earned ;) www.affil4you.com

If you have adult mobile traffic, you want to talk to us !
Have a good business ! And maybe see u in Phoenix :)

I trust pimproll - Even when a small payment they send me doesn't get cashed (Cause I lose the check) they add it onto my next check automatically...

There are several trustworthy large companies in adult. The first thing I look at is how they treat consumers. If they are 'screwing the surfer' they are just as likely to screw you next. If they treat their customers well, and you bring them customers, they will treat you well. As for big companies I'd trust, Pimproll, Gamma, Homegrown, PinkVisual, Payserve, Streamate and some others immediately come to mind.

Two things you should always look at are recent site reviews from reputable websites and websitesecure.org seals. If their sites get good reviews and their sites are treating consumers in an ethical manner.... That's useful information for any affiliate - and most of the major review sites already report which adult sites are websitesecure.org certified right on their own review pages. Contact me any time for more information.

Lol nobody mention Nastydollars haha...Im pretty sure they are the biggest and most trusted program out there.

I don't trust any affiliate program - mainstream or adult. (Adult significantly less, obviously.) When money is involved, everyone is looking to fuck you.

Size doesn't matter. Honesty and profit does.