Was assassinated (heart attacked) just 6 months after the event above. Back in the mid 1990's they would use heart-attacks as a covert method of assassination, like what they used on the leader of the UK Labour party in 1994 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sm...arty_leader%29 when it was time to make way for NWO Puppet Tony Blair
Dr. Robert Willner M.D.,Ph.d (21 June 1929 ? 15 April 1995) was a doctor from Florida who became famous for his role in AIDS denialism, the view that AIDS is not caused by HIV infection.
Willner described himself as originally an "orthodox" physician who slowly transitioned to alternative medicine, particularly following his wife's 1978 struggle with cancer chemotherapy. In 1995, Willner asserted that "I am convinced you can prevent all diseases with diet, lifestyle changes, sanitation."
Willner's Florida medical license was suspended in 1990 following a Florida Board of Medicine ruling that Willner had made inappropriate medical claims for food products.
On October 14, 1993, in a press conference at Arrecife de Lanzarote, Spain, Willner jabbed his finger with blood from Pedro Tocino, hemophilia patient who tested HIV positive after VIII factor transfusions.
Willner authored a book presenting his point of view on the relation between HIV and AIDS, titled Deadly Deception: the Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS.
The book was published shortly after Willner's medical license was revoked for, among other things, treating an AIDS patient with ozone therapy.
The following month, on October 28, 1994, in a press conference at a Hollywood, California hotel, Willner jabbed his finger with blood he said was from an HIV-infected patient.
Willner died April 15, 1995, of a heart attack.
Since I know conspiracy theorists always carefully consider various sides of every conspiracy, I will direct you to this book:
Modern Forms of Boundary Work in Defense of Science
Because the rejection of medical science has adverse implications for public health?as evidenced by unnecessary AIDS deaths and declining vaccination rates?this cultural tolerance for alternative medicine has not gone unchallenged, especially in the Internet era.
In the past, those wishing to explore the cultic milieu and related alternative lifestyles did so primarily by subscribing to print editions of alternative healing magazines such as Mothering?the magazine that featured a cover photograph of Christine Maggiore with ?No AZT? emblazoned on her pregnant abdomen.
Today, like many other fringe publications, Mothering no longer produces a print edition. Consumers of alternative health services now surf the Internet like everyone else. In so doing, they will encounter alternative websites by the dozen, but they will also come across anti?AIDS denial sites and advice from conventional medical practitioners.
They will find sites telling them Maggiore?s daughter Eliza Jane died because a doctor gave her an antibiotic and that Maggiore died of stress?but they will also find information showing that both Eliza Jane and Maggiore died of AIDS. The Internet, in other words, is both a source of opportunity for cultropreneurs?and a site of danger for them as converts can easily be lost.
This determination to fight back and expose the dangers of denialism is evident also in the more conventional print media. For example, the popular magazine for science and reason, Skeptical Inquirer, which started off life investigating claims about UFO sightings, ghosts, psychic powers, and similar paranormal phenomena gradually found its focus shifting to exposing the claims of alternative healers.
More recently, medical professionals such as Goldacre, Kalichman, and Offit have penned popular books critiquing bad science, AIDS denialism, and the anti-vaccination movement. As such, they form part of a broader critical set of writings about the false claims and dangers of alternative medicine?for example, Dan Hurley?s exposé of the US vitamin and herbal supplement industry, Edzard Ernst and Simon Singh?s evaluation of the evidence for alternative therapies, and Michael Specter?s critique of denialism and irrational thinking.
It is too early to tell whether this counteroffensive by pro-science advocates has achieved much success, but the fact that Goldacre and Singh have both been sued for libel (unsuccessfully) by alternative therapists suggests that some of their blows have hit home.
The electronic media has proved to be a crucial mobilizing instrument for pro-science activists. Supporters of Simon Singh used Twitter and Facebook to keep abreast of the libel case, to organize events, and to lobby for reform of the UK?s libel laws. Both Goldacre and Kalichman operate blogs on topics linked to their books, and they are active within the broader community of pro-science Internet activists.
Goldacre refers to the wider group of pro-science bloggers as ?the posse? and posts links to them on his website. And their actions are not merely intellectual. When the British Chiropractic Association sued Singh, the posse flooded the association with complaints about individual chiropractors, all of which required investigation. For Goldacre, the lessons are clear:
First, if you have reputation and superficial plausibility more than evidence to support your activities, then it may be wise to keep under the radar, rather than start expensive fights. But more interestingly than that, a ragged band of bloggers from all walks of life has, to my mind, done a better job of subjecting an entire industry?s claims to meaningful, public, scientific scrutiny than the media, the industry itself, and even its own regulator. It?s strange this task has fallen to them, but I?m glad someone is doing it, and they do it very, very well indeed.
In other words, boundary work in defense of science has not only adapted to the modern age by taking place online and with the help of electronic media, but it is being undertaken by members of the public.
Whereas, in the past, boundary work was conducted primarily by scholars seeking to develop and maintain public respect for science and to relegate ?pseudosciences? like phrenology beyond the pale of academia, today the battle is more diffuse, public, and decentralized?indeed often fought at an individual level via cut-and-thrust debate on blog postings. As Goldacre suggests, it may be that this is more effective than action taken by the scientific community.
Damien Thompson is similarly optimistic, noting in his populist polemic Counterknowledge: How We Surrendered to Conspiracy Theories, Quack Medicine, Bogus Science and Fake History that high-profile alternative therapists have proved ?surprisingly vulnerable to guerrilla attacks from the blogosphere?:
Freelance defenders of empirical truth, armed to the teeth with hard data, have mounted devastating ambushes on quacks and frauds who have ventured too far into the public domain. The tactic is an antiretroviral rather than a vaccine, and too modest in scope to effect dramatic change in society, but it does seem to work. . . . Reputations are easily damaged in a furiously competitive market, and people rather enjoy the spectacle of smug, rich lifestyle gurus being humiliated.
This social phenomenon of ?angry nerds? and ?guerilla bloggers? dedicated to defending evidence-based medicine and challenging quackery is important. Rather than relying on the scientific community to defend the boundaries of science, we are seeing a much more socially embedded struggle over values and how we should be approaching our health and that of others.
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ADG
wehateporn
03-29-2013 05:08 PM
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude,
Pharma have lots of money to defend their lies and back up their propaganda :pimp
CyberHustler
03-29-2013 05:13 PM
Crazy mofo
newB
03-29-2013 05:47 PM
You can't inject yourself with AIDS, dumbass.
Of course, not knowing shit about a subject has never stopped you before.
wehateporn
03-29-2013 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by newB
(Post 19552352)
You can't inject yourself with AIDS, dumbass.
Of course, not knowing shit about a subject has never stopped you before.
Of course, but the title sounds more shocking with AIDS rather than HIV, that's why I chose it :1orglaugh
wehateporn
03-29-2013 06:24 PM
Si
03-29-2013 06:51 PM
HIV isn't AIDS, fucking typical conspiracy fallacy as usual.
Learn something before you post a pile of bullshit for once, you dumb cunt.
wehateporn
03-29-2013 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Si
(Post 19552418)
HIV isn't AIDS, fucking typical conspiracy fallacy as usual.
Learn something before you post a pile of bullshit for once, you dumb cunt.
I knew my tabloid style headline would bring in the bots, who will you sign in as next? :1orglaugh
Si
03-29-2013 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 19552436)
I knew my tabloid style headline would bring in the bots, who will you sign in as next? :1orglaugh
Whether you've got HIV or not depends on which country you live in, if you have HIV in one country, just cross the border to another and you won't, and hence you won't need the toxic drugs which would eventually kill you off.
Also careful what you say before the HIV test about your lifestyle, this has an influence on the outcome of the HIV test. :upsidedow
Markul
03-30-2013 11:51 AM
You really are batshit crazy man.
Sly
03-30-2013 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 19552362)
Of course, but the title sounds more shocking with AIDS rather than HIV, that's why I chose it :1orglaugh
Ah, he admits that he sensationalizes to get more attention. Sounds like the mainstream media to me!
John-ACWM
03-30-2013 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
(Post 19552296)
Since I know conspiracy theorists always carefully consider various sides of every conspiracy, I will direct you to this book:
"AIDS" is not the right medical term. The correct title should be "Doctor injects himself with The AIDS".
wehateporn
03-30-2013 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by helterskelter808
(Post 19553386)
"AIDS" is not the right medical term. The correct title should be "Doctor injects himself with The AIDS".
:1orglaugh
wehateporn
03-30-2013 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markul
(Post 19553193)
You really are batshit crazy man.
Maybe :1orglaugh
wehateporn
03-30-2013 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly
(Post 19553198)
Ah, he admits that he sensationalizes to get more attention. Sounds like the mainstream media to me!
This is GFY and tabloid style journalism is what works here :pimp
wehateporn
03-30-2013 05:41 PM
wehateporn
03-30-2013 06:18 PM
digitalfantasies
03-31-2013 07:07 AM
interesting... did he really knew something that he needed to be silenced? Or was he a just a batshit crazy and died of a heart attack?
Dirty F
03-31-2013 07:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalfantasies
(Post 19553996)
interesting... did he really knew something that he needed to be silenced? Or was he a just a batshit crazy and died of a heart attack?
Take a guess.
wehateporn
03-31-2013 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalfantasies
(Post 19553996)
interesting... did he really knew something that he needed to be silenced? Or was he a just a batshit crazy and died of a heart attack?
He knew HIV is a lie, it's the drugs they give you once diagnosed which kill :2 cents:
AIDS is now an industry, just like Cancer, follow the money!
just a punk
03-31-2013 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 19552279)
Doctor Injects Himself with AIDS
With HIV? Yes, he can. With AIDS - no, that's impossible.
wehateporn
03-31-2013 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO
(Post 19554100)
With HIV? Yes, he can. With AIDS - no, that's impossible.
If I was posting it somewhere serious like AboveTopSecret I would have used the correct term, however this is GFY and if you don't use tabloid journalism your threads drop like lead balloons to page 9 :winkwink:
just a punk
03-31-2013 10:11 AM
Actually I don't use tabloid terms because I'm not a journalist :P
epitome
03-31-2013 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 19553162)
Whether you've got HIV or not depends on which country you live in, if you have HIV in one country, just cross the border to another and you won't, and hence you won't need the toxic drugs which would eventually kill you off.
Also careful what you say before the HIV test about your lifestyle, this has an influence on the outcome of the HIV test. :upsidedow
As usual you just believe shit you see on the Internet and have no real world experience.
Also, it's painfully obvious that you've never had an HIV teat as you sit there and wait for the results and see them for yourself.
But go ahead and continue spreading false information since it's the only thing you know how to do.
wehateporn
03-31-2013 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome
(Post 19554255)
As usual you just believe shit you see on the Internet and have no real world experience.
Also, it's painfully obvious that you've never had an HIV teat as you sit there and wait for the results and see them for yourself.
But go ahead and continue spreading false information since it's the only thing you know how to do.
