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Dirty F 04-03-2013 07:21 AM

Porsche Cayman sold for 300 bitcoins
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143722.0

"The Porsche sold today for ~300 Bitcoins! If this isn't proof that Bitcoin is a legitimate currency, then I don't know what is. The buyer purchased his initial Bitcoin investment at around $4 a piece so they got an amazing deal. I'm not sure if this is the single largest item sold for BTC, but I can guarantee it's the first $40,000 vehicle sold for ~300 BTC. The buyer wishes to remain anonymous, but I've asked a bitpay representative to come and post in this thread to confirm the transaction occurred."

:thumbsup

BlackCrayon 04-03-2013 07:25 AM

and the people there have nothing to gain by hyping bitcoin so much...

Penny24Seven 04-03-2013 07:25 AM

but if bitcoins will be worth 100K each why would anyone in their right mind sell them?

Dirty F 04-03-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19560932)
but if bitcoins will be worth 100K each why would anyone in their right mind sell them?

The guy just bought a Porsche for 1200 dollars. Don't be a hater.

Penny24Seven 04-03-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19560934)
The guy just bought a Porsche for 1200 dollars. Don't be a hater.

no. If he did this when they were 4 bucks that would be true. If I put 10K on red and win and go buy a car for 20K I still spent 20K even though half of that was free money.

Dirty F 04-03-2013 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19560938)
no. If he did this when they were 4 bucks that would be true. If I put 10K on red and win and go buy a car for 20K I still spent 20K even though half of that was free money.

Don't hate man :1orglaugh

Roald 04-03-2013 07:33 AM

damn Frank you buying into this hype?

Dirty F 04-03-2013 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19560944)
damn Frank you buying into this hype?

So should you :thumbsup

dyna mo 04-03-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19560932)
but if bitcoins will be worth 100K each why would anyone in their right mind sell them?

one reason may be the person thinks the price is topped-out. just because btc have the potential to be worth 100k each doesn't mean they will be or that everyone will hold on to them thinking that either.

another reason could be because he's an idiot. it could all be hype. remember the guy who bought a pizza for what $75K in btc. extreme massive risk.

Google Expert 04-03-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19560926)
The buyer wishes to remain anonymous

Sounds legit.

DWB 04-03-2013 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19560926)
"The Porsche sold today for ~300 Bitcoins! If this isn't proof that Bitcoin is a legitimate currency, then I don't know what is.

Once traded some collectable Star Wars figures for a Motorcycle. Does that make Star Wars figures a legitimate currency? If so, I'm fuckin' rich!!!

I have a feeling that for most of you here hyping bitcoins this is your first time investing or playing with a market of any kind. Your comments, excitement, and general lack of understanding how markets work gives it away.

But kudos for getting in on it early. Hopefully you'll all make shit tones of money and become bitcoin millionaires. That would be pretty bad ass. Weird things like that happen from time to time.

idolbucks 04-03-2013 08:33 AM

That's a spiffy little ride

pornmasta 04-03-2013 08:35 AM

http://www.reactionimage.org/img/gallery/1583057110.jpg

Manfap 04-03-2013 08:39 AM

There any bitcoin futures/derivatives about?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19560944)
damn Frank you buying into this hype?

As long as you sell before the hype ends then go for it..

its like day trading.. keep clearing off your positions bank the profits.

arock10 04-03-2013 08:40 AM

Buuuuuble

dyna mo 04-03-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19561012)

I have a feeling that for most of you here hyping bitcoins this is your first time investing or playing with a market of any kind. Your comments, excitement, and general lack of understanding how markets work gives it away.

i was front and center on the big tech bubble in 2000.

that's just 1 example.

L-Pink 04-03-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561062)
i was front and center on the big tech bubble in 2000.

that's just 1 example.

Good. I was worried you might not know when to get out.

.

dyna mo 04-03-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19561070)
Good. I was worried you might not know when to get out.

.

i was expecting an insult, just not from you.

pornmasta 04-03-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561062)
i was front and center on the big tech bubble in 2000.

that's just 1 example.

hmm good to know :winkwink:

dyna mo 04-03-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19561075)
hmm good to know :winkwink:

and why's that?

pornmasta 04-03-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561076)
and why's that?

it gives some perspective to some of your comments.

L-Pink 04-03-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561074)
i was expecting an insult, just not from you.

No insult. In fact quite the opposite. The fact you got in early on something that is doubling in value makes me jealous. Just remember all the sure things from the tech bubble that fell as dramatically as they rose.

Protect some of those gains buddy! :thumbsup


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DWB 04-03-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561062)
i was front and center on the big tech bubble in 2000.

that's just 1 example.

Your posts about it are actually well thought out and intelligent. Some of the others give me the impression they are fresh out of high school and just found out they could make money by buying into something. They are going to freak out when they learn about forex. :upsidedow

dyna mo 04-03-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19561085)
No insult. In fact quite the opposite. The fact you got in early on something that is doubling in value makes me jealous. Just remember all the sure things from the tech bubble that fell as dramatically as they rose.

Protect some of those gains buddy! :thumbsup


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sorry.

i was pretty skeptical then too, i had a shit ton of options for a start-up i was involved with, it was set to go public when the bottom fell out.

dyna mo 04-03-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19561092)
Your posts about it are actually well thought out and intelligent. Some of the others give me the impression they are fresh out of high school and just found out they could make money by buying into something. They are going to freak out when they learn about forex. :upsidedow

i appreciate that, i've tried to learn as much about the exchange side of it as possible for my own benefit, i figured i'd share that here since there are so many peeps here that seem genuinely curious about it.

but, yeah, i am excited about it. i guess the technology appeals to me first, the algorithm, what can i say. i don't understand it but i can appreciate it.

but the timing is very exciting to me, i've learned the time to get in to an investment that looks attractive is before wall street does. i like that a lot about this. that said, it's all for fun.

Spudstr 04-03-2013 09:02 AM

lol, they are up to 141 right now? da faq

ilnjscb 04-03-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19561012)
Once traded some collectable Star Wars figures for a Motorcycle. Does that make Star Wars figures a legitimate currency? If so, I'm fuckin' rich!!!

I have a feeling that for most of you here hyping bitcoins this is your first time investing or playing with a market of any kind. Your comments, excitement, and general lack of understanding how markets work gives it away.

But kudos for getting in on it early. Hopefully you'll all make shit tones of money and become bitcoin millionaires. That would be pretty bad ass. Weird things like that happen from time to time.

Then, when it gets to a certain price, resistance gives way and they all buy in, and mortgage their houses, and sell their TVs, and buy buy buy, and they talk down to waiters, and quit their jobs, and ... within a few months before they are thinking they will sell and come live near you in a big house in Thailand - the bottom falls out. Sad faces, suicides, divorce, repossession, article after article about "what went wrong" and "why we should have known". It isn't bitcoins, friend, it is every bubble ever. If you really want to be rich, stop buying bitcoins and start profiting off the suckers who do. When you see them really buying, when you see an article in Time Magazine called "Bitcoins: Are they the Future?" then sell immediately, even if you miss the top.

Supz 04-03-2013 11:53 AM

Can this story be verified that it is true? Or just some bitcoin forum with fancy pictures on it?

dyna mo 04-03-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19561399)
Can this story be verified that it is true? Or just some bitcoin forum with fancy pictures on it?

i'm going to guess it can never be truly verified, right? due to the anonymous nature of btc.

ninavain 04-03-2013 02:41 PM

you left this in my thread..i thought I'd return it to you
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19561168)


_Richard_ 04-03-2013 02:52 PM

hey Ninavain, in loving respect for the rest of us

please stop

francks unbalanced.. let him have it

Ringo 04-03-2013 03:48 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IgcbMb-BMy...ray+vision.jpg

Supz 04-03-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19561406)
i'm going to guess it can never be truly verified, right? due to the anonymous nature of btc.

Yea, there is not even a link to the craigslist ad of the car for sale or anything right?

dyna mo 04-03-2013 04:01 PM

what's the rule for posting a link to another forum? i have the link to the original ad offering the car for sale but it's at the btcforum

dyna mo 04-03-2013 04:04 PM

looks like it's ok to post for this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...617#msg1523617

dyna mo 04-03-2013 04:55 PM

i'ma put this here instead of starting a new thread, but i think this is a pretty good brief

currency analyst advises clients on the nature of Bitcoins and how one might value BTC

his part on how to value btc is..........lacking, maybe i missed the gist of that part



Sebastion Galy has kindly let us run his whole note, which is below the dotted line.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sebas...#ixzz2PRo3yscH
Quote:

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This proved an interesting subject from a central bank/regulatory point of view. Please find below a more comprehensive view on bitcoins. I thank the many who gave me some info, in particular Steve, my super-quant (ex)colleague from MIT.

Bitcoins have a money supply that is theoretically increasing, following an algorithm approximating the effort of mining. As more hashing/solving power from miners appears on the network, the difficulty of solving the next problem increases.

Right now the BTC/USD is tightly following the mining cost of BTC. It tracks how many people are getting involved into it (the more people mining it, the higher cost to get it because of fixed weekly supply).
Some smart investors started to realize that under this situation, you really should buy and hold rather than mining it (obviously). As more buyers come in=>higher prices=>more miners=>more buyers creating a positive feedback loop, whose nature is quite questionable. I was told that

However, with confidence in this BTC potentially increasing, the market actually starts building up its intrinsic value as a means of exchange, which might eventually make it potentially more stable in the long-term. Some professional investors believe the BTC thing is going to rise, though through a very bumpy road in the next few months.

How can we value bitcoins intrinsic value?
-- Monetary Approach. One way to value bitcoins would be to compare the money supply of the US vs bitcoins (1bn USD or so). That simplistic approach would make bitcoins very valuable if they end up being able to buy the same USD asset. This is a supply approach and easily solvable.

-- Law of one price approach. On the demand side, a dollar is used to purchase, say, a piece of software, or game tokens within a game, or to pay someone for watching a video. There the reality meets the rubber. As far as I can see within a game, the value [of] the bitcoin is devalued as games introduce their own tokens (e.g. Metal storm has now three different levels of tokens depending on whether it is externally tradable, internally). If the bitcoin becomes too expensive it loses its usefulness as a numeraire used for exchange.

Structure of the currency:

-- Monetary Policy. With far more rapid advances in the technology of processing than mining, the rules have already been changed to stop some forms of mining which were too effective. This was effectively a form of revaluation of the currency.
-- Legal framework. From a technical point of view, the bitcoin is not yet a currency in the sense that the currency is not anonymous. Volume is low and hence it is easy to influence the price. There is no certainty that the supply of bitcoins will follow the original rules, these rules have already been changed and presume a trust in the ones able to issue the currency. In many countries, printing money is a state privilege that will come to bite in the future as this, like gambling, is regulated for good reasons. In the U.S., the government introduced rules to cover electronic moneys.
-- Technicals. From a trading point of view, we broke out of the upward-trending channel in an exponential upswing typical of aggressive bubbles. As [with] all bubbles, there is a good story behind it, the trick would be to measure both the supply side and more importantly demand side value of bitcoins.



Helix 04-03-2013 06:22 PM

Bitcoin Nutters

ilnjscb 04-05-2013 07:05 AM

It begineth:

Bitcoin May Be the Global Economy's Last Safe Haven

pimpmaster9000 04-05-2013 08:27 AM

shiny object syndrome+greed=bitcoin mania :)

dyna mo 04-05-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19564222)
shiny object syndrome+greed=bitcoin mania :)

that's one way to look at it.

another way is people buying into btc now are buying into the idea before it has been proven, the reward for that support is a higher payout. the punishment for that is investors will more than likely lose their ducats.


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