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wehateporn 05-07-2013 03:24 AM

US court pays $6 million to Gardasil victims
 
This HPV vaccine is causing MS, Pharma are making $Billions from the vaccine, the plenty more from MS which requires lifelong treatment :disgust

WASHINGTON, April 10, 2013 - Gardasil, the vaccine for HPV (human papillomavirus), may not be as safe as backers claim.

Judicial Watch announced it has received documents from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) revealing that its National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has awarded $5,877,710 dollars to 49 victims in claims made against the highly controversial HPV (human papillomavirus) vaccines. To date 200 claims have been filed with VICP, with barely half adjudicated.

?This new information from the government shows that the serious safety concerns about the use of Gardasil have been well-founded. Public health officials should stop pushing Gardasil on children.? said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

The CDC recommends the Gardasil vaccine, made by Merck Pharmaceuticals, for all females between 9 and 26 years to protect against HPV. Furthermore, the CDC says Gardasil is licensed, safe, and effective for males ages 9 through 26 years.

The facts appear to contradict the FDA?s safety statements. The adverse reaction reports detail 26 new deaths reported between September 1, 2010 and September 15, 2011 as well as incidents of seizures, paralysis, blindness, pancreatitis, speech problems, short term memory loss and Guillain-Barré Syndrome. The documents come from the FDA?s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) which is used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines.

That?s 26 reported deaths of young, previously healthy, girls after Gardasil vaccination in just one year.

In response to the concern about death reports among those who received Gardasil, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) insists ?there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine.?

While it is not clear exactly what is causing so many adverse reactions, Gardasil does contain genetically engineered virus-like protein particles as well as aluminum, which can affect immune function.

Further, according to the vaccine manufacturer product information insert, ?Gardasil ? not been evaluated for carcinogenicity or impairment of fertility.? (2007 [227] p1986 )

In fact, Merck studied the Gardasil vaccine in fewer than 1,200 girls under 16 prior to it being released to the market under a fast-tracked road to licensure. To date, most of the serious side effects, including deaths, that occurred during the pre-licensure clinical trials and post marketing surveillance have been written off as a ?coincidence? by Merck researchers and government health officials.

Neurologist Dr. Ian Sutton reported negative neurological side effects from Gardasil. He reported five cases of multiple sclerosis-like symptoms emerging shortly after women received the Gardasil vaccine, noting:

?We report five patients who presented with multifocal or atypical demyelinating syndromes within 21 days of immunization with the quadrivalent human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil. Although the target population for vaccination, young females, has an inherently high risk for MS, the temporal association with demyelinating events in these cases may be explained by the potent immuno-stimulatory properties of HPV virus-like particles which comprise the vaccine.?

From its inception, the use of HPV (human papillomavirus) vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases has been hotly disputed. According to the Annals of Medicine: ?At present there are no significant data showing that either Gardasil or Cervarix (GlaxoSmithKline) can prevent any type of cervical cancer since the testing period employed was too short to evaluate long-term benefits of HPV vaccination.?

There are more than 100 types of human papillomaviruses (HPVs). Of them, about 40 types of HPV are sexually transmitted and 15 of these types are most associated with cervical cancers and genital warts in women and men.

HPV vaccines have been illegally administered to millions without informed consent, as the risks rarely disclosed.

Not only are there questions about the safety of the vaccine, there are questions about the need for the vaccine. Over 90 percent of women infected with HPV clear the infection naturally within two years, at which point cervical cells go back to normal.

Meanwhile, Merck is benefitting tremendously from vaccine sales. The vaccine is expected to reach $1 billion in sales next year, and could reach more than $4 billion in sales in five years, according to Wall Street analysts.

Full story http://communities.washingtontimes.c...dasil-victims/

OldJeff 05-07-2013 03:51 AM

Quite happy that Aly told the doctor to fuck off when they were pushing this for our daughter.

wehateporn 05-07-2013 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19614677)
Quite happy that Aly told the doctor to fuck off when they were pushing this for our daughter.

Good to hear :thumbsup :winkwink:

Arnox 05-07-2013 04:18 AM

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...ia-on-my-mind/

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In 1986, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) was enacted by congress as part of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Compensation Act. The most important purpose of the VICP was to safeguard the nation’s vaccine supply in the wake of a mounting torrent of lawsuits directed at vaccine manufacturers. These lawsuits were a major threat to the country’s vaccination program, as manufacturers faced potential jury awards that would be impossible to survive. In 1979 there was one DTP-related lawsuit. In 1986 there were 255. Between 1983 and 1984, costs related to these lawsuits climbed from $4.7 million to $9.9 million. In 1986 alone, over $3 billion in DTP injury claims were sought, which was 30 times greater than that year’s entire dollar value of DTP vaccine. Vaccine prices soared, and companies stopped making vaccines or went out of business entirely.
The level of evidence required in order to prove damage to the VICP is substantially low. This system exists because there are potentially life threatening lawsuits brought against producers of useful vaccines that would otherwise not exist because the money that it costs to defend yourself. In essence, vaccines are state funded resources in America, owing to the fact that the government essentially subsidizes legal cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardasil#Safety

Gardasil has been administered to over 40,000,000 million people, with the deaths of female receivers having no evidence to support a link between their death and the vaccine.

The author of this article is a "Dr." Lind, I'd like to make it absolutely clear that Mr. Lind is a chiropractor and thus, doesn't have an MD license. He actively promotes alternative medicine and has yet to publish any paper to support claims he makes in peer reviewed scientific journals.

If you dislike vaccines, don't get them. Sharing stuff like this is dangerous to the population - you should keep your unjustified, unscientific beliefs to yourself. Do not endanger others without evidence to support your claims. People die as a result of their parents being told things like this but ill-informed, unscientific individuals that don't have the cognitive capacity to look at evidence, let alone contribute to the science.

Everyone else: get vaccinated, and ensure your children are vaccinated too. Not doing so is dangerous.

wehateporn 05-07-2013 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 19614691)
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...ia-on-my-mind/



The level of evidence required in order to prove damage to the VICP is substantially low. This system exists because there are potentially life threatening lawsuits brought against producers of useful vaccines that would otherwise not exist because the money that it costs to defend yourself. In essence, vaccines are state funded resources in America, owing to the fact that the government essentially subsidizes legal cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardasil#Safety

Gardasil has been administered to over 40,000,000 million people, with the deaths of female receivers having no evidence to support a link between their death and the vaccine.

The author of this article is a "Dr." Lind, I'd like to make it absolutely clear that Mr. Lind is a chiropractor and thus, doesn't have an MD license. He actively promotes alternative medicine and has yet to publish any paper to support claims he makes in peer reviewed scientific journals.

If you dislike vaccines, don't get them. Sharing stuff like this is dangerous to the population - you should keep your unjustified, unscientific beliefs to yourself. Do not endanger others without evidence to support your claims. People die as a result of their parents being told things like this but ill-informed, unscientific individuals that don't have the cognitive capacity to look at evidence, let alone contribute to the science.

Everyone else: get vaccinated, and ensure your children are vaccinated too. Not doing so is dangerous.


Most people don't get compensation for vaccine damage as they don't realize that the vaccine caused their problem, for example it takes months for Diabetes Type 1 to show up after a vaccine. It could be years until you go down with Non-Hodkins Lymphoma. Most Asthmatics don't know that their Asthma came from a vaccine. The majority of this is not tracked, it's estimated that between 1-10% of vaccine damage is reported in VAERS. If you don't track something you won't find it. It's not profitable to track vaccine damage, but these diseases which vaccines cause are highly profitable, as are vaccines, so hence they keep this vaccine myth going. :2 cents:

"Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" - Dr. Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

Arnox 05-07-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19614700)
The majority of this is not tracked, it's estimated that between 1-10% of vaccine damage is reported in VAERS. If you don't track something you won't find it.

Source/Evidence?

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19614700)
"Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."

Firstly, a single instance of a scientist saying X or Y does not make it true. What we use to analyse instances of scientific claims is through a process of peer review which leads to something known as scientific consensus. If Richard Dawkins turned around tomorrow and stated that evolution was a lie in order to create research dollars, it would not be a scientific statement that would change public opinion. Science doesn't operate on a single person's view, it operates on a pool of knowledge that is tested, observed and recorded continuously.

Secondly, there isn't a single reputable source I can find that verifies this statement, nor is there any context for the statement that he made. However, if I take this questionable anti-vaccination source, it claims that:

Quote:

At a workshop on polio vaccines sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Samuel Katz of Duke University cited the estimated 8-10 annual U.S. cases of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) in people who have taken the oral polio vaccine, and the [four year] absence of wild polio from the western hemisphere.
So if this source is correct (again, it isn't citing anything first-hand, and isn't supported anywhere that is neutral on the subject) it claims that there are 10 cases per year of Polio that are the result of vaccination.

This timeline which is/was maintained by the person who literally wrote the book on Polio claims that from 1953 to 1957, the number of cases goes from 36,000 per year to 5,600, with the number reduced to 121 in 1964.

Reducing 36,000 down to 121 in the space of 11 years at the cost of 8-10 cases induced by the vaccination effort - medically and scientifically - is morally sound and justified. Vaccines are not perfect and no one claims they are. What vaccines do is reduce the overall incident rate of terrible, crippling conditions at the cost of potentially inducing unwanted side effects. Again, I have no understanding of what context these statements were made - if they were made at all - but even if they were true, a counter argument doesn't make sense to me.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19614700)
"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" - Dr. Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

This quote is again, unreferenced apart from anti-vax websites and without context. I will go one further and say that this quote is completely fabricated; unless there is incredible warping of context, it's quite clear to me that this isn't something he would have said. If you can find a reputable source that confirms this quote, as well as giving a date, time and location, I can respond to the claim made (again, he is a single scientist, science doesn't work on what a single person says).

I would like to ask you nicely to respond to points I have made in reaction to what you've said. I noticed that in your last response, you completely ignored what I said and started a new argument. I believe that I have adequately considered your claims and have countered them using evidence, logic and reason. I expect you to be professional in your response and to lend me the same level of professionalism and maturity that I have lent you. If you don't want to - that's fine, but hopefully someone else here who may be on the fence will look at what I've stated and reconsider their position on this particular subject.

Again, what you say is dangerous and results in the unnecessary deaths of a lot of vulnerable people; especially children who are only subjected to their parent's wishes and desires.

potter 05-07-2013 06:52 AM

hahaha Arnox pwning the idiot conspiracy theorist. Classic.

SomeCreep 05-07-2013 07:08 AM

It's a dirty world we're living in. You never know what kind of nasty's a person is hiding between their legs.

wehateporn 05-07-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 19614835)
Source/Evidence?

Max 10% adverse affects reports, FDA says it, it's very well known, this is because it's a passive reporting system, also problems with vaccines can happen months afterwards, so most won't pick up on it, mid/long-term studies would be required, studies which won't be funded for obvious reasons.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/he00053t.pdf

Polio, now let's take a look at what's Bill Gates has been up to in India
Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.

Researchers reported

"?while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere [First, do no harm] was violated."

We have to stop pretending that there's no money in vaccines and the diseases they bring, this is not one big charity for the good of mankind. There are conflicts of interest all around Big Pharma, we can't be naive about this, they have revolving doors with the CDC, it's a self-regulating industry. They have money driven people at the top, money is their priority, they make money from making us sick and treating the symptoms. This is why giving them access to our bodies by allowing vaccines gives them a temptation which is difficult for them to resist, if they start up Diabetes Type 1, MS etc then their profits explode.

Many pharma studies have manipulated conclusions, they avoid comparing unvaccinated children against vaccinated, they don't use proper controls in the study i.e. a real control would be an unvaccinated person, but instead they give a person a 'Substance Vaccine', which means all the toxic stuff without the virus. This is madness! If someone dies in the study, they remove them from the study, put it down as coincidence. Independent research is rare, it's effectively like McDonalds researching the health benefits and dangers of their own food, they would not be the best people to be left in charge of the research.

Money has corrupted the Pharmaceuticals, the trust is gone, it's now a criminal industry which makes money from poisoning us and then treating our symptoms.



wehateporn 05-07-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 19614873)
It's a dirty world we're living in. You never know what kind of nasty's a person is hiding between their legs.

Absolutely, from light-bulbs being deliberately designed to have short lifespans, to war profiteers funding terrorism, there aren't many people left who can really be trusted. :thumbsup

epitome 05-07-2013 01:30 PM

Let's put things into perspective... in 2013 an estimated 14,030 women will die from ovarian cancer, which is virtually always caused by HPV.

LOL about light bulbs deliberately designed to have short lifespans. 6,000 to 15,000 hours for a CFC seems pretty long to me?

Dirty F 05-07-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 19614846)
hahaha Arnox pwning the idiot conspiracy theorist. Classic.

Although i applaud it it's not much harder than owning a retarded 12 year old.

baddog 05-07-2013 02:08 PM

Since when do courts pay anyone anything? Where does it say that the courts paid anyone anything?

Arnox 05-07-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19614980)
Max 10% adverse affects reports, FDA says it, it's very well known, this is because it's a passive reporting system, also problems with vaccines can happen months afterwards, so most won't pick up on it, mid/long-term studies would be required, studies which won't be funded for obvious reasons.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/he00053t.pdf

Polio, now let's take a look at what's Bill Gates has been up to in India
Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.

Researchers reported

"?while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere [First, do no harm] was violated."

We have to stop pretending that there's no money in vaccines and the diseases they bring, this is not one big charity for the good of mankind. There are conflicts of interest all around Big Pharma, we can't be naive about this, they have revolving doors with the CDC, it's a self-regulating industry. They have money driven people at the top, money is their priority, they make money from making us sick and treating the symptoms. This is why giving them access to our bodies by allowing vaccines gives them a temptation which is difficult for them to resist, if they start up Diabetes Type 1, MS etc then their profits explode.

Many pharma studies have manipulated conclusions, they avoid comparing unvaccinated children against vaccinated, they don't use proper controls in the study i.e. a real control would be an unvaccinated person, but instead they give a person a 'Substance Vaccine', which means all the toxic stuff without the virus. This is madness! If someone dies in the study, they remove them from the study, put it down as coincidence. Independent research is rare, it's effectively like McDonalds researching the health benefits and dangers of their own food, they would not be the best people to be left in charge of the research.

Money has corrupted the Pharmaceuticals, the trust is gone, it's now a criminal industry which makes money from poisoning us and then treating our symptoms.



Before we move on to what Bill Gates has said, I'd like to ask you to go through what I've said and address every point. This isn't going to be a very useful discussion if you simply say "yeah but what about". You've stated a lot of things that are unreferenced or that I have responded to. I'm asking you to directly refer to what I have said in your response.

If you wish to talk about adult things such as vaccination science, you have to talk in an adult way. And adult way is to respond to my statements in response to your claims about Polio. Again, I'm asking you to address the points that I have made in counter to yours. If you concede that your arguments are poor and unsourced, I can move on to your next line of argument.

Currently, I have no interest in responding to your new set of claims, because I fear that you will just move on to more anti-vaxx lies and deceit.

Be an adult human being and stand by the claims you've made, or admit that the claims you made were poor, ignorant and a misrepresentation of the truth.

TheSquealer 05-07-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 19615713)
Before we move on to what Bill Gates has said, I'd like to ask you to go through what I've said and address every point. This isn't going to be a very useful discussion if you simply say "yeah but what about". You've stated a lot of things that are unreferenced or that I have responded to. I'm asking you to directly refer to what I have said in your response.

If you wish to talk about adult things such as vaccination science, you have to talk in an adult way. And adult way is to respond to my statements in response to your claims about Polio. Again, I'm asking you to address the points that I have made in counter to yours. If you concede that your arguments are poor and unsourced, I can move on to your next line of argument.

Currently, I have no interest in responding to your new set of claims, because I fear that you will just move on to more anti-vaxx lies and deceit.

Be an adult human being and stand by the claims you've made, or admit that the claims you made were poor, ignorant and a misrepresentation of the truth.

He can't. He's mentally ill. He's not going to address every point because he's sick in the head. The point of everything he says is to validate his own confused mental state

It's not about "truth" or "facts" or "doing the right thing".

It's about him waking up every single day of his life and going into a manic state trying to search out anything and everything that will validate and affirm his severe paranoia of anything that slightly resembles authority.

wehateporn 05-07-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 19615713)

Be an adult human being and stand by the claims you've made, or admit that the claims you made were poor, ignorant and a misrepresentation of the truth.

I know this topic inside-out, been researching it for over 10 years now. You have the opportunity to learn a lot from me :pimp

wehateporn 05-07-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19615482)
Let's put things into perspective... in 2013 an estimated 14,030 women will die from ovarian cancer, which is virtually always caused by HPV.

There's no proof that the vaccine even works, it's just a theory, and they're making $Billions and leaving a trail of disability :disgust

epitome 05-07-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19615802)
There's no proof that the vaccine even works, it's just a theory, and they're making $Billions and leaving a trail of disability :disgust

"The vaccine is effective against HPV types 16 and 18 which cause approximately 70% of cervical cancers, and against HPV types 6 and 11 which cause approximately 90% of genital warts."

http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVac.../ucm096052.htm

I know, you don't trust the FDA. You only trust YouTube and Playmate of the Year, MTV game show host and Jim Carey's baby Momma Jenny McCarthy.

media 05-07-2013 06:36 PM

They make it sound like such a big deal.. those 49 girls are only going to get about $60,000 each after the lawyer takes his chunk from each of the plaintifs..

Law firm just had a $1,763,313 payday if they got 30%


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