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mikesinner 05-10-2013 02:00 PM

I Found Someone Copying My Blog Posts And Removing My Affiliate Codes
 
My blog post
http://realstolenhomefilms.pornblogs...n-the-web.html

Their reuse of my work while removing any links I have and adding their own.
http://www.homemadesporn.com/homemad...ed-on-the-web/

I am going through my blogs and finding more of this crap. So what is the fastest way to get this removed?

Ferus 05-10-2013 02:07 PM

Is it the scraper guy from the other post from a few weeks ago?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1106741

mikesinner 05-10-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 19619936)
Is it the scraper guy from the other post from a few weeks ago?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1106741

The post is fairly old so it could be anybody. I'm willing to get there are3 thousands of my blog posts being used like this. I need an easy way to get them taken down.

_Richard_ 05-10-2013 02:15 PM

one is dated for 2012, and one is dated 2013... you recycled? or mixed the blogs up?

Fat Panda 05-10-2013 02:16 PM

DMCA the host and contact Juicy Ads that they have plastered all over the site

CDSmith 05-10-2013 02:26 PM

Whatever happened to Gideon? Wouldn't he normally be in a thread like this lecturing you on 'fair use' and why it's okay for others to copy, obtain, use, benefit from etc your intellectual property while never mentioning words like 'steal', theft' etc.?

signupdamnit 05-10-2013 02:31 PM

Using free hosts probably makes it harder to take action or prove that it's your copyright unless people decide to just cooperate.

The Thumblogger situation is potentially pretty bad for those who run into this. As far as I understand if someone scrapped your thumblogger blogs before thumblogger went down; now that they are down the scraper site would probably be considered the new source of the original content since the old source is gone and your replacement is going up after the scraper site has already had theirs published. And there is no way for you to use a redirect to show authority otherwise nor do you have any way to prove anything to Google. They have no idea that you are the content owner.

Fat Panda 05-10-2013 02:34 PM

Juicy Ads would certainly close content thieves accounts right?

Ferus 05-10-2013 02:35 PM

maybe they didn't go down, but was resold, and they are now using your content

mikesinner 05-10-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19619966)
Using free hosts probably makes it harder to take action or prove that it's your copyright unless people decide to just cooperate.

The Thumblogger situation is potentially pretty bad for those who run into this. As far as I understand if someone scrapped your thumblogger blogs before thumblogger went down; now that they are down the scraper site would probably be considered the new source of the original content since the old source is gone and your replacement is going up after the scraper site has already had theirs published. And there is no way for you to use a redirect to show authority otherwise nor do you have any way to prove anything to Google. They have no idea that you are the content owner.

The way I create my posts makes it pretty obvious they are mine. People don't capitalize every word in their header like I do.

Fat Panda 05-10-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 19619972)
maybe they didn't go down, but was resold, and they are now using your content

YES! In thumblogger TOS content was THEIRS not the posters

Fat Panda 05-10-2013 02:38 PM

UM I capitalize every word in my titles too. ROFL

Zeiss 05-10-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19619944)
one is dated for 2012, and one is dated 2013... you recycled? or mixed the blogs up?

I was asking myself the same thing. :1orglaugh

signupdamnit 05-10-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19619973)
The way I create my posts makes it pretty obvious they are mine. People don't capitalize every word in their header like I do.

I believe you but how does Google's algorithms know that? They use what they call "signals" to determine who published the content originally which in large part probably depends on date on first indexing and where it first appeared. Even worse how would you prove it to Google with a manual request? You could try to sue and you'd stand a better chance but you would have to prove it to the judge and it probably isn't worth it for $xxx to low $x,xxx a month. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully the scumbag stealing your work removes it.

Colmike9 05-10-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19619973)
The way I create my posts makes it pretty obvious they are mine. People don't capitalize every word in their header like I do.

I always do that except for words like 'and' 'with' 'or' etc.

seeandsee 05-10-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19619975)
YES! In thumblogger TOS content was THEIRS not the posters

you sure?

if this is the case, what to say...

mikesinner 05-10-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19619975)
YES! In thumblogger TOS content was THEIRS not the posters

Their TOS never said that.

mikesinner 05-10-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19619993)
I believe you but how does Google's algorithms know that? They use what they call "signals" to determine who published the content originally which in large part probably depends on date on first indexing and where it first appeared. Even worse how would you prove it to Google with a manual request? You could try to sue and you'd stand a better chance but you would have to prove it to the judge and it probably isn't worth it for $xxx to low $x,xxx a month. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully the scumbag stealing your work removes it.

I have copies of everything on my hardrive with dates. Also it's pretty obvious when you are doing a post for a sponsor and you hardlink to that sponsors website homepage using the the same text in that link as the websites name and the scraper removes the hardlink but the sites name remains.

mikesinner 05-10-2013 04:21 PM

I don't think date of post matters. If you get a DMCA you have to remove the content from what I understand. I've heard people getting them for content they actually own.

Besides many people rotate their content so date of posting is meaningless.

rogueteens 05-10-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19620060)
Their TOS never said that.

Actually, that rings a bell with me. I think someone mentioned this before.

Colmike9 05-10-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19620117)
I don't think date of post matters. If you get a DMCA you have to remove the content from what I understand. I've heard people getting them for content they actually own.

Besides many people rotate their content so date of posting is meaningless.

No, post date is meaningless.
I made http://jerkoffblogs.com/lotsofporn/ in a day, not 4 years like the archive says..

mikesinner 05-10-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19620146)
No, post date is meaningless.
I made http://jerkoffblogs.com/lotsofporn/ in a day, not 4 years like the archive says..

That's what I'm saying, it doesn't matter what date the post is or who posted it first. When you look at how most scrapers operate it's obvious who the original owner of the content is, at least in most cases.

Google gets thousands of content removal requests every day. They are really good at detecting stolen content.

The way I write my posts it would be pretty stupid for anyone to scrape them unless they were going to leave the links in.

I do get tons of hits from scrapers that leave my links in. I have sponsors right now that I don't have one single hardlink online for but I'm getting over 50 clicks a day from scrapers. I hate these too but they are not worth going after. It's people that steal the content and remove all links that I will go after.

AllAboutCams 05-10-2013 05:18 PM

I don't understand how yo would take a website down for copying text?

mikesinner 05-10-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19620165)
I don't understand how yo would take a website down for copying text?

There are hundreds of articles on google about people stealing your blog text and how to get it removed.

Apparently it's a pretty big problem and no one thinks its ok except the thieves who do it.

jscott 05-10-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19619971)
Juicy Ads would certainly close content thieves accounts right?

Yes!
JuicyAds is VERY good about this :thumbsup

WarChild 05-10-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19620117)
I don't think date of post matters. If you get a DMCA you have to remove the content from what I understand. I've heard people getting them for content they actually own.

Besides many people rotate their content so date of posting is meaningless.

You don't HAVE to remove anything because of a DMCA. If somebody DMCA's you about your own content, you simply ignore it. Their next step is to sue you.

If somebody files a DMCA with your host or other service provider over YOUR content, you file a counter DMCA notice and again the next step is for them to sue you.

mikesinner 05-10-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19620165)
I don't understand how yo would take a website down for copying text?

I don't believe you normally can, you have to get each page of content deleted. I'm trying to figure out if there is a streamlined way to do this.

Maybe if you have someone that is stealing thousands of posts from many people you could complain to the host but they would probably just move to a new host.

The thing is these people are looking for easy fast money. I really want to make it hard for them to steal from me.

wehateporn 05-10-2013 05:56 PM

This is a big problem indeed



Fortunately, North Korea has come up with a pioneering solution which is effective in certain scenarios


Colmike9 05-10-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 19620190)
You don't HAVE to remove anything because of a DMCA. If somebody DMCA's you about your own content, you simply ignore it. Their next step is to sue you.

If somebody files a DMCA with your host or other service provider over YOUR content, you file a counter DMCA notice and again the next step is for them to sue you.

What if you just quote the source like other sites like Wikipedia and Google image search? Although there is no source to quote from TL anymore..

mikesinner 05-10-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19620197)
What if you just quote the source like other sites like Wikipedia and Google image search? Although there is no source to quote from TL anymore..

I am reupping my content so I will have new sources.

Arnox 05-10-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19619975)
YES! In thumblogger TOS content was THEIRS not the posters

Terms of Service contracts aren't considered legal documents. There has only been one case in the United States involving a violation of ToS where the person was found guilty and then the decision was overturned later down the track.

Regardless of what a website's ToS says, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference regarding your intellectual property.

signupdamnit 05-10-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19620146)
No, post date is meaningless.
I made http://jerkoffblogs.com/lotsofporn/ in a day, not 4 years like the archive says..

I think both of the mikes might be misunderstanding me a bit. :) It's not the post date you report or show on your site. It's the records Google keeps behind the scenes in an effort to ascertain who published the original content first. No one other than Google knows exactly how it works but try to consider how they might try to solve the problem. More than likely something like certain parts of the page are hashed and then a record is kept of the "first seen" date the content is seen and where it was seen. This is probably combined with other signals as Google calls it such as authority or maybe PR. Maybe there are signals to deal with brands too etc

Now what happens when the original publisher of the content as Google sees it goes offline without forwarding? Probably something like the next one in line becomes the original publisher as Google sees it. But if someone already scraped your old Thumblogger blog a year ago will the new site you put up be considered the original publisher? Possibly not.

mikesinner 05-10-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19620207)
I think both of the mikes might be misunderstanding me a bit. :) It's not the post date you report or show on your site. It's the records Google keeps behind the scenes in an effort to ascertain who published the original content first. No one other than Google knows exactly how it works but try to consider how they might try to solve the problem. More than likely something like certain parts of the page are hashed and then a record is kept of the "first seen" date the content is seen and where it was seen. This is probably combined with other signals as Google calls it such as authority or maybe PR. Maybe there are signals to deal with brands too etc

Now what happens when the original publisher of the content as Google sees it goes offline without forwarding? Probably something like the next one in line becomes the original publisher as Google sees it. But if someone already scraped your old Thumblogger blog a year ago will the new site you put up be considered the original publisher? Possibly not.

For some reason, I don't know why but whenever I upload an old blog to a new page I am always listed above sites that have scraped my content from an earlier date. At least this has been the case in the past.

WarChild 05-10-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19620197)
What if you just quote the source like other sites like Wikipedia and Google image search? Although there is no source to quote from TL anymore..

I am by no means an expert in DMCA, Google or Copyright so I really couldn't say.

mikesinner 05-10-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19620197)
What if you just quote the source like other sites like Wikipedia and Google image search? Although there is no source to quote from TL anymore..

ownership is not who finds it owns it.

Arnox 05-10-2013 07:04 PM

http://spyonweb.com/UA-11988224

It's this guy, seems like a Russian who focuses on Celeb stuff. I'm sure there's a lot more in his network.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19266795#post19266795

Either he sold up and the person who took on the network started this stuff, or he's still at it but doing some black hat stuff. Reverse IP found that his network is linked with zoo sites, too.

beks001 05-10-2013 08:10 PM

I say just say fuck it and let it go.

Build your own sites and assets that you can sell.

Don't waste your time building shit for other people.

Save some of the Free Hosted Money and reinvest in your own assets.

Sucks that people are dickheads and will do that stuff but don't let it hold you down.

Move forward and grow. That's what I'm doing and did before all this went down.

Unless you are making 5-10k a month from free hosts alone I would not waste any time in getting things back.

Build for you to what you know to be true original content and make money.

Fat Panda 05-10-2013 08:13 PM

ya why u using free hosts again? havent u learned your lesson?

mikesinner 05-11-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 19620246)
http://spyonweb.com/UA-11988224

It's this guy, seems like a Russian who focuses on Celeb stuff. I'm sure there's a lot more in his network.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19266795#post19266795

Either he sold up and the person who took on the network started this stuff, or he's still at it but doing some black hat stuff. Reverse IP found that his network is linked with zoo sites, too.

How come the site he used to steal my content is not in that list.

freecartoonporn 05-11-2013 10:23 AM

just keep creating more posts, and report to google., if there is such a way.

brassmonkey 05-11-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19619944)
one is dated for 2012, and one is dated 2013... you recycled? or mixed the blogs up?

don't fuck with richard :2 cents: :1orglaugh

Fat Panda 05-11-2013 10:48 AM

this thread makes me ROFL

2013 05-11-2013 11:06 AM

this thread makes me gy

anexsia 05-11-2013 01:37 PM

It sucks but there's just not much you can do about it and if you can do something about it, it takes so much time to have it done.

I have some blogs that someone copied and then linked to my blog with a bunch of spammy domains so now some of my blogs (one's that made some good sales too!) are fucked Google traffic wise and it REALLY sucks but what are ya gonna do? I just say fuck it and keep going on!

Arnox 05-11-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19620751)
How come the site he used to steal my content is not in that list.

Because only an idiot would host the scraped material right next to his main sites.

Thankfully, he was still stupid enough to rip the site he had and just copy/paste it. Result? Inconsistent footer "Contact" link.

http://i.imgur.com/p226qjA.jpg


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