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emill 05-12-2013 02:22 PM

Paysite sales dead ?
 
Last year is much better for me work more but results are suck much traffic good traffic google seo niche but suck looks like tube are destroy paysites not now yet but for 2-3 years :(

signupdamnit 05-12-2013 02:46 PM

Piracy is definitely affecting us but I think what hurt me the most was changes by Google. Surprisingly after compiling my stats I found it wasn't as bad as I thought.

Quote:


2007 - 1:1,300
2008 - 1:1,300
2009 - 1:1,800
2010 - 1:1,800
2011 - (1:2,283)
2012 - (1:3,283)
2013 - (1:2,661)

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1108462

But I think Jel had a bigger spread whereas my ratios were comparatively shitty even back in 2007 when his were much better.

I'm convinced that CCBill has been batching some affiliate credits for transactions for many months. The patterns are just crazy. I don't know why or what exactly is going on but it's weird to have these lulls and then sudden surges in sales. So unless you are doing extreme volume I wouldn't put much stock in weekly or even monthly numbers as an affiliate since something seems to be going on.

Fat Panda 05-12-2013 02:55 PM

1:125 this period

SpeedoDave 05-12-2013 03:07 PM

I'm around 1:1,000 on my own sites. Lots of tube traffic in that though.


Dave

MainstreamGuy 05-12-2013 03:31 PM

Obvisouly nothing new... this has started in 2007.

Try something very unique or try to promote cam whitelabels and work on SEO.

shake 05-12-2013 06:25 PM

Worst period for me yet :(

leg4 05-12-2013 07:17 PM

Piracy, free porn, treating previous pay site customers like cunt-douches in the past with shitty members areas, fraudulent rebills, upsells/cross-sells and no easy way to cancel.

A lot of people are jaded from the past.

Zeiss 05-12-2013 07:33 PM

Usually 1:XX here, but tube traffic - 1:XXXX or even 1:XXXXX

Adam_M 05-12-2013 08:40 PM

How are house sales, car sales, holiday sales and all other markets now in comparison to 2007? I think tubes have had an affect but I think people are spending a lot less now then 4 or 5 years ago. Good quality products are still doing well in the current market but I do agree things have changed a lot!

MrWho 05-12-2013 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19622074)
Good quality products are still doing well in the current market but I do agree things have changed a lot!

Exactly what I experienced till we are working on new sites.
Concentrate on unique and exclusive content in high quality and give the user a hassle free experience he can't get on other sites.

And cams for sure are the way to go for decent money... reorded cam shows on tubes? no thanks ;-)

duk75 05-12-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zealotry (Post 19622028)
Usually 1:XX here, but tube traffic - 1:XXXX or even 1:XXXXX

Where do you make 1:XX, or better yet, how do you do 1:XX?

My best right now is 1:500, I would really like some improvement!

lock 05-13-2013 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19622193)
Where do you make 1:XX, or better yet, how do you do 1:XX?

My best right now is 1:500, I would really like some improvement!

It does sound incredible but it must be a very targeted. He is talking from his sign up page not from index.

wouter112 05-13-2013 02:07 AM

It's all about the need. Is the need of the user changed? Is the need of the user filled in another way? Listen to the need! What does the customer wants? Of course there is still a need, but you have to fill in the need of the user in the best way.

PornDude 05-13-2013 02:46 AM

Enjoy your current ratio and image this thread being posted in 2017.

_Richard_ 05-13-2013 08:19 AM

going strong over here ))

arock10 05-13-2013 08:44 AM

Under 1:200 here, first page hits

baryl 05-13-2013 09:06 AM

1:667 combined average across every paysite for me this period and last period as an affiliate.

For me if something is consistently in the 1:3000 range with HQ traffic, I stop promoting it.

privatesociety 05-13-2013 09:11 AM

Been steady this year, certainly improved since January

Cyber Fucker 05-13-2013 10:02 AM

Dead indeed. I have something like 10000:1 ratio, I'm sure there is still money there that can be made somehow but personally I gave it up, it's not worth my time.

ilnjscb 05-13-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19622074)
How are house sales, car sales, holiday sales and all other markets now in comparison to 2007? I think tubes have had an affect but I think people are spending a lot less now then 4 or 5 years ago. Good quality products are still doing well in the current market but I do agree things have changed a lot!

Ok
Home sales:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHE...EHSMay2009.jpg

Car sales:
http://www.macrotrends.net/1372/auto...storical-chart

Holiday retail sales:
http://www.macrotrends.net/1371/reta...storical-chart

All other markets .... hmmmmm ...
World GDP
http://bevblog.net/wp-content/upload...DP-274x300.jpg

Seems like maybe things are down at most 25% - that doesn't really explain it. And the world gdp is not down. Only US because we've grown poorer in the last few years, but haven't lost 50% of our purchasing power.


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