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shinmusashi44 05-21-2013 05:51 AM

Shooting Content In Thailand
 
First off YES I know porn is illegal in Thailand, I think everyone knows that by now. But that doesn't stop the 100s of people every year.

I have recently moved to Pattaya Thailand and wanted to start getting into shooting content. I've never shot any content before and want to start off slow. Maybe just shoot a few girls a week or so. I'll just be shooting solo or G/G scenes for now. I bought a HD Photo Canon camera but still not sure what kind of video camera to get here. The canon can do video but not sure how well that will look. I've been promoting Butterflybucks/ghost cash for a few years now and their content got me wanting to shoot my own lol.

For anyone that shoots content here can you give me some tips? Should I take pics of their id, sign consent forms, do you pick them up at the bar and take them to a hotel or do you get their number and meet at the hotel later, etc? And anyone can send me a message on ICQ or can meet up somewhere for a beer or two and talk about this. Any help would be great.

Also what are good sites to sell content? I'll have pics and video.

nikki99 05-21-2013 05:53 AM

ask Mila Milan how it is doing

jscott 05-21-2013 05:59 AM

Everything about this thread is wrong. Back to the drawing table please shinmusashi44 :helpme

NALEM 05-21-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19633718)
ask Mila Milan how it is doing

Quoted for the truth.

Few simple common sense tips:

- Never bring them to your place of residence - Change shooting locations frequently

- Separate yourself from your data cards - dont keep them on you or office or residence

- Do not tolerate or allow drugs to be on the premises

- Check IDs carefully - many underage girls use fake/stolen/borrowed IDs, and yes photo them holding their IDs next to their face.

- Get to know the local hospitals well where STDs are checked and reports issued.

- The police is not your friend. Plan on giving the local police authority and judge all your future profits, and if caught early in the game,where you haven't made money yet, don't worry ... you will be making arrangements to sell any assets you do have to be sitting outside their jail cells.

- Be careful with using any pro equipment. You become a easier target to discover.

Good luck!

Slappin Fish 05-21-2013 06:09 AM

....if I tell you what I think you'll think I'm trying to put you off...

Your post reminds me of the American/Canadian crew that got busted in the apartments on Buddha Hill a few years ago crying that "everybody does it", truth is very very few people shoot in Pattaya.

The best advise I can give you is to get to know people. not the mafia, the mob or the police.. but the girls themselves. That sweet girl you shot will give you up in a heartbeat when she's caught doing yabba for the third time or is in love with a policeman.

L-Pink 05-21-2013 06:12 AM

What you are asking is ... How do I become a professional in a field I know nothing about in a country where said profession is illegal.

Good fucking luck.

shinmusashi44 05-21-2013 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19633746)
What you are asking is ... How do I become a professional in a field I know nothing about in a country where said profession is illegal.

Good fucking luck.

Never said anything about becoming a "professional". At the moment have no plans to turn this into anything big. Just test the waters for awhile.

slapass 05-21-2013 06:18 AM

Every year people go to jail for doing this exact thing.Why would you try and learn this trade in that environment? The minute one of these girls needs money, she is going to point you out. So ask yourself, "Does this seem like a good idea?"

shinmusashi44 05-21-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19633739)
....if I tell you what I think you'll think I'm trying to put you off...

Your post reminds me of the American/Canadian crew that got busted in the apartments on Buddha Hill a few years ago crying that "everybody does it", truth is very very few people shoot in Pattaya.

The best advise I can give you is to get to know people. not the mafia, the mob or the police.. but the girls themselves. That sweet girl you shot will give you up in a heartbeat when she's caught doing yabba for the third time or is in love with a policeman.

Yeah that is true about the girls giving you up. I've heard of them doing things like that before.

nikki99 05-21-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 19633730)
Quoted for the truth.

Few simple common sense tips:

- Never bring them to your place of residence - Change shooting locations frequently

- Separate yourself from your data cards - dont keep them on you or office or residence

- Do not tolerate or allow drugs to be on the premises

- Check IDs carefully - many underage girls use fake/stolen/borrowed IDs, and yes photo them holding their IDs next to their face.

- Get to know the local hospitals well where STDs are checked and reports issued.

- The police is not your friend. Plan on giving the local police authority and judge all your future profits, and if caught early in the game,where you haven't made money yet, don't worry ... you will be making arrangements to sell any assets you do have to be sitting outside their jail cells.

- Be careful with using any pro equipment. You become a easier target to discoveoy

Good luck!

u got some sponsor nalem?

nikki99 05-21-2013 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19633746)
Good fucking luck.

enjoy sucking cocks in jail and getting muay thai kicked :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Slappin Fish 05-21-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 19633757)
Yeah that is true about the girls giving you up. I've heard of them doing things like that before.

Thailand is a class society. When girls shoot for DWB they will have seen him since they arrived in Pattaya, walking around, having drinks with mamasans, local bosses, etc. They will believe if they rat him out they'll be in more trouble than it is worth. You (with all due respect) are a nobody.

Sure you can get away with shooting amateur content letting the girl think it's for your own personal collection but not only is that hard to sell it would make you a scumbag.

shinmusashi44 05-21-2013 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19633776)
Thailand is a class society. When girls shoot for DWB they will have seen him since they arrived in Pattaya, walking around, having drinks with mamasans, local bosses, etc. They will believe if they rat him out they'll be in more trouble than it is worth. You (with all due respect) are a nobody.

Sure you can get away with shooting amateur content letting the girl think it's for your own personal collection but not only is that hard to sell it would make you a scumbag.

Thanks, maybe I'll spend time now just hanging out there and wait to shoot some content.

247mg 05-21-2013 06:43 AM

To much risk i think. Why take so much risk cone out from thailand

Grapesoda 05-21-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19633746)
What you are asking is ... How do I become a professional in a field I know nothing about in a country where said profession is illegal.

Good fucking luck.

not much different than LA really :2 cents:

Grapesoda 05-21-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 19633754)
Never said anything about becoming a "professional". At the moment have no plans to turn this into anything big. Just test the waters for awhile.

getting paid=professional

Nicky 05-21-2013 07:00 AM

I'd re-think

lex5555 05-26-2013 02:50 AM

Interesting

Danny Deepwood 05-26-2013 03:03 AM

I know of some that use the Police as security for the shoot. Its all about who you know, don't expect to show up and make connections overnight.

DWB 05-26-2013 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 19633714)
But that doesn't stop the 100s of people every year.

It's more like 10. Just be careful and trust no one. There is a reason there are so few doing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 19633754)
Never said anything about becoming a "professional".

If you sell the content, you're a professional. If you don't sell it, you're a sex tourist with a camera.

mafia_man 05-26-2013 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Deepwood (Post 19641068)
I know of some that use the Police as security for the shoot. Its all about who you know, don't expect to show up and make connections overnight.

I hear that a lot.

"You need pay the police or mafia" - Truth is most don't pay either. They pay after they get caught. Why do you think most shooters go to extraordinary lengths to hide their faces.

It's only 1 content producer that shows his face and he's probably connected.

There are some common sense steps you can take to mitigate risk:

- block your site in Thailand
- send DMCAs to Thai sites if they host your content
- shoot in blocks and delay uploads

Personally, and I've said this before, I'd wait to see what happens with this ASEAN thing. Hopefully you can just shoot Cambodians/Lao/Burmese girls in Thailand and save so much of the trouble.

shimmy2 05-26-2013 04:55 AM

if you film porn in the 3rd world be ready for shakedowns and jail, in that order. i just got out

suesheboy 05-26-2013 05:05 AM

Extremely poor businesses model.

DWB 05-26-2013 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 19641110)

"You need pay the police or mafia" - Truth is most don't pay either. They pay after they get caught. Why do you think most shooters go to extraordinary lengths to hide their faces.

:2 cents:

These days everyone just takes the risk. Back in the old days you could pay to not have problems or even have military (they outrank police) or high ranking police sit outside of your shoot location. That all went away when they started shuffling everyone to *try* to curb corruption.

The first big bust happened when he stopped paying his protection, who was the head of the Bangkok crime suppression unit at the time. The guy would actually sit in the room while porn was being made and watch it all, for 50,000b a month. Soon as he stopped getting paid, the producer got busted and I got blamed for it. :1orglaugh There was a big scandal afterwards and he got demoted and couldn't protect anyone anymore. However, he rocked while he was running things. He was a one stop shop, work permits, protection, gun for hire, thug, you name it. His off duty business was running security guards for diplomats, government officials, celebrities, and so on, using military for muscle. He even owned homes that he rented out for shooting. Good times. Shooting used to be fun in Thailand, now it's a pain in the ass and a roll of the dice.

BTW... shooters also hide their faces because of the endless army of "captain save-a-hoes" who actively look for guys for screwing their precious angels without a condom, because only they should have the privilege and they foolishly send them money every month like suckers. It's just easier not to have to deal with these delusional lunatics.

mineistaken 05-26-2013 06:19 AM

I never understood, do you have to have big balls to shoot porn in Asian country where it is illegal (and apparently jail time) or you you have to have small brain?

mineistaken 05-26-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19641123)
if you film porn in the 3rd world be ready for shakedowns and jail, in that order. i just got out

Got out of DR or just stopped shooting there (meaning no updates to your site)?

suesheboy 05-26-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19641180)
Got out of DR or just stopped shooting there (meaning no updates to your site)?

he just got out of jail:2 cents:

Freax 05-26-2013 08:59 AM

Sorry let me say thats a BULLSHIT idea! As long as you do that in thailand with foreign actors from outside the land its risky, but can work. Sooner or later Thais will start to talk. They talk about everything all the time. If they drunk or stoned, they talk more. Thats the risk my friend! If the police get just the smallest info, you are busted and in jail. It costs you more, than you ever get paid for. The complete internet in thailand is monitored. Official using VPNs is forbidden ;) The golden times of shooting porn in Thailand is over!

shimmy2 05-26-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19641180)
Got out of DR or just stopped shooting there (meaning no updates to your site)?

play my most recent trailer

Screwed Up 05-26-2013 09:47 AM

This thread delivers!

OP, seriously, are you trolling us?

d-null 05-26-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19641367)
play my most recent trailer

........ link?

waltgator 05-27-2013 11:42 AM

good luck man...I wouldnt do it..but more power to ya if you do & pull it off
:2 cents::thumbsup

JFK 05-27-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 19641395)
This thread delivers!

OP, seriously, are you trolling us?

that has crossed my mind, as soon as I read the original post:2 cents:

Captain Kawaii 05-27-2013 12:00 PM

I hear the CCU is very active in Bangkok and Pattaya these days.

klinton 05-27-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19641123)
if you film porn in the 3rd world be ready for shakedowns and jail, in that order. i just got out

care to explain that a little ? you were in jail in POP region ;] ?


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