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Just Alex 05-23-2013 09:07 PM

Taraylon Martin - All american boy. Gun, drug texts feature in new Trayvon Martin shooting evidence
 
Who would've thought all american boy Traylon was finking 'bout drugz and gunz


Gun, drug texts feature in new Trayvon Martin shooting evidence

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1

Tony, does that look like broken nose and blood to you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg

StickyGreen 05-23-2013 09:26 PM

I could have told you that from day one when I first read his twitter account, the kid was a typical punk thug. He brutally attacked Zimmerman and that's why he got shot.

Just Alex 05-23-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19638200)
I could have told you that from day one when I first read his twitter account, the kid was a typical punk thug. He brutally attacked Zimmerman and that's why he got shot.

Youz being racist. :winkwink:

kane 05-23-2013 09:33 PM

This case seems to be dragging on forever.

2013 05-23-2013 09:37 PM

who da fuck is tara and traylon

TheSquealer 05-24-2013 05:32 AM

They sound like construction materials. Isn't traylon an epoxy paint?

tony286 05-24-2013 06:03 AM

Good job CNN the last pic isnt even him. And you stalk someone minding their business and get in his face you get your ass kicked. They can talk about all the pot and guns in the world. Dont see nothing about stealing and the only one with the gun was the wanna be hero. Who has showed to be a real piece of shit.

tonyparra 05-24-2013 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19638185)

Tony, does that look like broken nose and blood to you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg


You talkin to me or another Tony? It sure does look like he got his ass beat which is what he would have gotten if followed me or worse, sorry no excuse for a able bodied grown man getting his ass beat by ONE 17yr old person ever, if your an adult male and you are young enough NOT to qualify for social security, you are a disgrace to your species IF a teen age boy can whip your ass. Alex.

blackmonsters 05-24-2013 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19638185)
Who would've thought all american boy Traylon was finking 'bout drugz and gunz


Gun, drug texts feature in new Trayvon Martin shooting evidence

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1

Tony, does that look like broken nose and blood to you?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg

I would have broken his fucking nose completely off for following me like secret police with supreme authority.

Him and everyone that supports him should drink a bottle of nitroglycerine and then go bungee jumping.

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 05-24-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19638185)

Gun, drug texts feature in new Trayvon Martin shooting evidence

Wow, I didn't know he had a gun and was texting about drugs when he was shot.

I learn something new everyday about this case.

NOT!

Good thing that picture of a gun on his cellphone didn't pop out and shoot Zimbo that night.

:helpme

candyflip 05-24-2013 07:14 AM

I see that reading and comprehending aren't strong points for a few people.

This is evidence of his character. If the prosecution goes on to attack Zimmerman's character, they will have no problem introducing this to show Martin's.

But it probably won't come to that, not that this has come to light. Typical of Lawyers. They're just posturing.

blackmonsters 05-24-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19638702)
I see that reading and comprehending aren't strong points for a few people.

This is evidence of his character. If the prosecution goes on to attack Zimmerman's character, they will have no problem introducing this to show Martin's.

But it probably won't come to that, not that this has come to light. Typical of Lawyers. They're just posturing.

Can I post some gfy links here to show your character and thus discredit the statement you
just made?
You'd just call bullshit on that, wouldn't you?


There is a serious limit on how posing for pictures reveals one's character.
All serial killers took damn nice photos.

When a prostitute gets raped and murdered, do you play the "ho deserved it card" then too?

:helpme

blackmonsters 05-24-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19638702)
I see that reading and comprehending aren't strong points for a few people.

You got that right. Sarcasm just blows right by some people.

:1orglaugh

bronco67 05-24-2013 07:58 AM

I still think its all Zimmerman's fault, because he was being an overzealous rent a cop with a hero complex --but that kid is definitely a criminal in the making.

Harmon 05-24-2013 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19638795)
I still think its all Zimmerman's fault, because he was being an overzealous rent a cop with a hero complex --but that kid is definitely a criminal in the making.

I agree, but that didn't make him deserve a death sentence because he was growsing some seeds and posting pictures to look cool in front of his friends online (like pretty much every kid these day does).

Either way, it should be an interesting trial to follow.

kane 05-24-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19638835)
I agree, but that didn't make him deserve a death sentence because he was growsing some seeds and posting pictures to look cool in front of his friends online (like pretty much every kid these day does).

Either way, it should be an interesting trial to follow.

I agree. Maybe the kid was a punk. Maybe he would have grown up to be a criminal. Maybe he wouldn't have. None of that deserves death.

For me this case is simple. We all know how it started. Zimmerman sees Martin, thinks he looks suspicious and calls the cops. Martin starts to leave and Zimmerman follows. When the 911 dispatch person tells him they don't need him to do that it sounds like he stops following him and agrees to meet the police at a specific location.

After he hangs up he ends up in a confrontation with Martin. It looks like he was getting his ass kicked, got scared and shot him.

The big question is: How did the conflict start? If Zimmerman decided to follow him after all and pressed the conflict, he is likely going to go to jail. You can't plead self defense when you start the fight and then start getting your ass kicked in the fight. If there is evidence that Martin reappeared and attacked Zimmerman then Zimmerman has a solid case of self defense. It doesn't appear that is what happened. Had Zimmerman gotten back into his car like he said he was going to do none of this would have happened. He is now going to have explain to the jury how he got from where he was when the 911 call ended to being in a fight with Martin.

I have a feeling, especially with this new evidence they are bringing up, Zimmerman is going to say he followed him and that Martin attacked him for no reason. The question is whether or not the jury will believe him.

_Richard_ 05-24-2013 02:12 PM

very happy cnn was able to locate a male teenager doing male teenager things

top-notch reporting

adendreams 05-24-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19639384)
I agree. Maybe the kid was a punk. Maybe he would have grown up to be a criminal. Maybe he wouldn't have. None of that deserves death.

For me this case is simple. We all know how it started. Zimmerman sees Martin, thinks he looks suspicious and calls the cops. Martin starts to leave and Zimmerman follows. When the 911 dispatch person tells him they don't need him to do that it sounds like he stops following him and agrees to meet the police at a specific location.

After he hangs up he ends up in a confrontation with Martin. It looks like he was getting his ass kicked, got scared and shot him.

The big question is: How did the conflict start? If Zimmerman decided to follow him after all and pressed the conflict, he is likely going to go to jail. You can't plead self defense when you start the fight and then start getting your ass kicked in the fight. If there is evidence that Martin reappeared and attacked Zimmerman then Zimmerman has a solid case of self defense. It doesn't appear that is what happened. Had Zimmerman gotten back into his car like he said he was going to do none of this would have happened. He is now going to have explain to the jury how he got from where he was when the 911 call ended to being in a fight with Martin.

I have a feeling, especially with this new evidence they are bringing up, Zimmerman is going to say he followed him and that Martin attacked him for no reason. The question is whether or not the jury will believe him.

Good analysis but you were a little too politically correct in Zimmermans favor. I think it's reasonable to assume that Zimmerman aggressively stalked the kid for no good reason other than racial profile EVEN after he was told directly by 911 authority to cease his actions. They fight that ensued was on the ground, not in Zimmermans car so he HAS to be the aggressor.

You did nail one thing - you can't start a fight, then claim self defense just because the fight wasn't going your way. The jury needs to get this one right and put Zimmerman away for at least 10 years.

The Ghost 05-24-2013 02:27 PM

It's a statement about the industry when there's more threads about whoever this is than new site launches.

PornoMonster 05-24-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19638622)
You talkin to me or another Tony? It sure does look like he got his ass beat which is what he would have gotten if followed me or worse, sorry no excuse for a able bodied grown man getting his ass beat by ONE 17yr old person ever, if your an adult male and you are young enough NOT to qualify for social security, you are a disgrace to your species IF a teen age boy can whip your ass. Alex.

WRONG..

I do photography at lots of sporting events and I know there are some 16-18 year olds that can kick my ASS. Some bad ass MMA fighters that have been training since age 8. Then just some strong as OX kids.

I do not know in THIS case, but just saying your blanket statement is WRONG.

PornoMonster 05-24-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19639398)
Good analysis but you were a little too politically correct in Zimmermans favor. I think it's reasonable to assume that Zimmerman aggressively stalked the kid for no good reason other than racial profile EVEN after he was told directly by 911 authority to cease his actions. They fight that ensued was on the ground, not in Zimmermans car so he HAS to be the aggressor.

You did nail one thing - you can't start a fight, then claim self defense just because the fight wasn't going your way. The jury needs to get this one right and put Zimmerman away for at least 10 years.

Wait -- You know Zimmerman started the fight???

Don't say because he was being followed, that is "Starting a fight"
Hell I have the keys to a mini mansion and I have been confronted many times on why I am in their neighborhood in the middle of the night, when I am out fishing...
Guess Ill answer with a fist next time.

YES my reply was one sided, as so far there are MANY stories of what people saw, and they Key thing is... (WHO started it)

PornoMonster 05-24-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19639386)
very happy cnn was able to locate a male teenager doing male teenager things

top-notch reporting

I know right... I thought I was going to read some crazy evidence..

Hell my son has that stuff on his FB and twitter and so on..

_Richard_ 05-24-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19639415)
I know right... I thought I was going to read some crazy evidence..

Hell my son has that stuff on his FB and twitter and so on..

which is ok, till something like this happens.

very interesting watching human behavior changes in settings like this

tony286 05-24-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19639413)
Wait -- You know Zimmerman started the fight???

Don't say because he was being followed, that is "Starting a fight"
Hell I have the keys to a mini mansion and I have been confronted many times on why I am in their neighborhood in the middle of the night, when I am out fishing...
Guess Ill answer with a fist next time.

YES my reply was one sided, as so far there are MANY stories of what people saw, and they Key thing is... (WHO started it)

If Zimmerman sat in his truck , he wouldnt of gotten beat up.

kane 05-24-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19639413)
Wait -- You know Zimmerman started the fight???

Don't say because he was being followed, that is "Starting a fight"
Hell I have the keys to a mini mansion and I have been confronted many times on why I am in their neighborhood in the middle of the night, when I am out fishing...
Guess Ill answer with a fist next time.

YES my reply was one sided, as so far there are MANY stories of what people saw, and they Key thing is... (WHO started it)

Who started it is the key.

If Zimmerman pursued Martin, got in his face and was aggressive with him and started the fight you could argue that Martin was just defending himself.

However, if Martin was the one that started the fight it could go the other way.

There might be witnesses and/or physical evidence that can set this straight and clearly tell the jury who did what. However, if that doesn't exist it will strictly be up to Zimmerman and his story. He may or may not take the stand, but he and his lawyers will have explain to the jury how he went from telling the dispatcher that he was going to go meet the police to shooting Martin.

The reason, I think, they are bringing up this stuff about Martin and his tweets/texts is that Zimmerman has an actual history of violence and trouble with the police. You know the prosecution will bring that up so he likely wants to try to prove that Martin was no angel.

In the end I think Zimmerman will lose this case. The situation was completely avoidable. Baring some unforeseen event (like he him hanging up with the 911 operator then Martin bursting out form a hiding place and attacking Zimmerman) Zimmerman chose to put himself in this situation then he chose to use deadly force. That likely will be hard to explain.

StickyGreen 05-24-2013 03:12 PM

So people here actually think it's okay to violently attack someone because they "appear to be following" you?

What if I happen to be walking in the same direction as you and I am somewhat close to you? You're going to turn around and start beating on me and slamming my head into the ground?

StickyGreen 05-24-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19639450)
If Zimmerman sat in his truck , he wouldnt of gotten beat up.

He doesn't have to sit in his truck, it's a free country... he can get out of his truck and walk around wherever the fuck he wants... there is no law against that.

There is a law, however, that makes it illegal to assault someone... regardless if you think they are "following you" or whatever, and in Florida apparently it is legal to "stand your ground" if someone violently assaults you.

kane 05-24-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19639468)
He doesn't have to sit in his truck, it's a free country... he can get out of his truck and walk around wherever the fuck he wants... there is no law against that.

There is a law, however, that makes it illegal to assault someone... regardless if you think they are "following you" or whatever, and in Florida apparently it is legal to "stand your ground" if someone violently assaults you.

Let me give you two scenarios. I'm curious who you think is in the wrong or right in these. Both scenarios take place after Zimmerman has hung the up with the 911 dispatcher and is supposedly on his way to meet the police.

1. Zimmerman decides to follow Martin. He heads in that direction and quickly catches up with him. He keeps his distance, following Martin and not saying anything. Eventually Martin stops and confronts Zimmerman. He asks him what is problem is and wants to know why he is following him. Zimmerman tells him he is part of the neighborhood watch and that he doesn't know him and he is acting a little suspicious so he has called the police and is keeping an eye on him until the police get there. Martin gets pissed, gets in Zimmerman's face then pushes him to the ground, jumps on him and starts punching him.

2. Zimmerman decides to follow Martin. He quickly catches up to him because Martin is now walking again and Zimmerman is at a slow job. He calls out for Martin to stop. Martin doesn't listen. Zimmerman runs up to Martin and tells him to stop. Martin doesn't. Zimmerman grabs Martin by the shirt and stops him. Martin turns around and tells Zimmerman to let go of him and leave him alone. When he tries to pull free Zimmerman physically restrains him. Martin sees that Zimmerman is carrying a gun. He decides to act. He pushes Zimmerman off of him and tries to flee, but Zimmerman grabs him again so he swing on Zimmerman and a fight breaks out.

tony286 05-24-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19639468)
He doesn't have to sit in his truck, it's a free country... he can get out of his truck and walk around wherever the fuck he wants... there is no law against that.

There is a law, however, that makes it illegal to assault someone... regardless if you think they are "following you" or whatever, and in Florida apparently it is legal to "stand your ground" if someone violently assaults you.

Now Zimmerman did have a history of being violent. So I highly doubt he was just following and all of a sudden this kid who had no history of violence just attacked him. Being a pot head doesnt make you violent.

Best-In-BC 05-24-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19638614)
Good job CNN the last pic isnt even him. And you stalk someone minding their business and get in his face you get your ass kicked. They can talk about all the pot and guns in the world. Dont see nothing about stealing and the only one with the gun was the wanna be hero. Who has showed to be a real piece of shit.

Shhhhh, dont let the morons hear you

Webmaster Advertising 05-24-2013 04:28 PM

Zimmerman should walk, this is a clear cut case of suicide by Mexican, why its being hyped up I have no clue, the little the parents were/are after a payout so they can recoup some of their lost food skamp money...

Sarah_Jayne 05-24-2013 04:50 PM

If smoking a bit of weed and showing a picture of a gun makes it okay to kill somebody than half of GFY should just line up against the wall now.

bigluv 05-24-2013 04:58 PM

No wonder your country is in the shitter with so many jumping to the defense of an obvious waste of space like tyrone.

Sarah_Jayne 05-24-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 19639586)
No wonder your country is in the shitter with so many jumping to the defense of an obvious waste of space like tyrone.

Who is Tyrone?

StickyGreen 05-24-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19639522)
Let me give you two scenarios. I'm curious who you think is in the wrong or right in these. Both scenarios take place after Zimmerman has hung the up with the 911 dispatcher and is supposedly on his way to meet the police.

1. Zimmerman decides to follow Martin. He heads in that direction and quickly catches up with him. He keeps his distance, following Martin and not saying anything. Eventually Martin stops and confronts Zimmerman. He asks him what is problem is and wants to know why he is following him. Zimmerman tells him he is part of the neighborhood watch and that he doesn't know him and he is acting a little suspicious so he has called the police and is keeping an eye on him until the police get there. Martin gets pissed, gets in Zimmerman's face then pushes him to the ground, jumps on him and starts punching him.

2. Zimmerman decides to follow Martin. He quickly catches up to him because Martin is now walking again and Zimmerman is at a slow job. He calls out for Martin to stop. Martin doesn't listen. Zimmerman runs up to Martin and tells him to stop. Martin doesn't. Zimmerman grabs Martin by the shirt and stops him. Martin turns around and tells Zimmerman to let go of him and leave him alone. When he tries to pull free Zimmerman physically restrains him. Martin sees that Zimmerman is carrying a gun. He decides to act. He pushes Zimmerman off of him and tries to flee, but Zimmerman grabs him again so he swing on Zimmerman and a fight breaks out.

1 - Martin is in the wrong. 2 - Zimmerman is in the wrong.

I guess it really just comes down to who initiated the physical contact, something we might never know.

kane 05-24-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19639600)
1 - Martin is in the wrong. 2 - Zimmerman is in the wrong.

I guess it really just comes down to who initiated the physical contact, something we might never know.

Yep,

That is the point I have been making. As far as I know there are no witnesses and there is no evidence that shows how the fight started and who was the aggressor. There could be info that just hasn't been released to the public, but I doubt that.

This means it will all come down to the narrative that Zimmerman puts forward and if the jury believes him. Like you say we may never know exactly what happened, but Zimmerman's freedom will depend on what he can convince the the jury of.

Tom_PM 05-24-2013 05:28 PM

From CNN, the news network who's anchor Wolf Blitzer declared the Duke Lacrosse team "innocent" on the air after the prosecution dropped it's case which had fallen apart.They were already innocent, dickwad, because that's how it works in America. Go keep asking atheists if they prayed to the lord and leave news casting to someone else bro.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...r-jeopardy.jpg

Pride. Feel it.

Hey. CNN. You can hold a gun, look at marijuana plants, have smoke in your mouth and be outside among people and be accused of shit too. That's not evidence, it's ammunition for character assassination. Write it down for next time.


The entire issue with this case was how the original prosecutor and police passed on their chance to investigate and possibly bring a case. That lead to the community freaking out. If they'd done their jobs properly in a shooting death case, none of this would be known to anyone and nobody would care.

blackmonsters 05-24-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19639587)
Who is Tyrone?

The real black guy who drowned Susan Smith's children.

:1orglaugh

bigluv 05-24-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19639587)
Who is Tyrone?

Making fun of OP misspelling at the same time as making fun of made up black names.

Sarah_Jayne 05-24-2013 05:45 PM

Aren't all names made up? :)

Rochard 05-24-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19639458)
Who started it is the key.

If Zimmerman pursued Martin, got in his face and was aggressive with him and started the fight you could argue that Martin was just defending himself.

However, if Martin was the one that started the fight it could go the other way.

There might be witnesses and/or physical evidence that can set this straight and clearly tell the jury who did what. However, if that doesn't exist it will strictly be up to Zimmerman and his story. He may or may not take the stand, but he and his lawyers will have explain to the jury how he went from telling the dispatcher that he was going to go meet the police to shooting Martin.

The reason, I think, they are bringing up this stuff about Martin and his tweets/texts is that Zimmerman has an actual history of violence and trouble with the police. You know the prosecution will bring that up so he likely wants to try to prove that Martin was no angel.

In the end I think Zimmerman will lose this case. The situation was completely avoidable. Baring some unforeseen event (like he him hanging up with the 911 operator then Martin bursting out form a hiding place and attacking Zimmerman) Zimmerman chose to put himself in this situation then he chose to use deadly force. That likely will be hard to explain.

I agree fully.

I'm not saying the kid was an innocent church going kid with great grades, but Zimmerman was following the kid. The kid might have thought he was about to come under attack. Zimmerman caused the entire incident, period.

Matt 26z 05-24-2013 07:01 PM

Zimmerman was on the volunteer neighborhood security watch team. Trayvon was a drug dealing thug. It made perfect sense for Zimmerman to follow him. His mindset was to help clean up the neighborhood and he almost got himself killed for his noble efforts.

At some point you just have to ask yourself if the world is a slightly better place with Trayvon Martin dead.

Webmaster Advertising 05-24-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19639680)
Zimmerman was on the volunteer neighborhood security watch team. Trayvon was a drug dealer. It made perfect sense for Zimmerman to follow him. His mindset was to help clean up the neighborhood and he almost got himself killed for his noble efforts.

At some point you just have to ask yourself if the world is a slightly better place with Trayvon Martin dead.

So long as the jury chosen are predominantly white or latino, they will say YES.

Just Alex 05-24-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19638622)
You talkin to me or another Tony? It sure does look like he got his ass beat which is what he would have gotten if followed me or worse, sorry no excuse for a able bodied grown man getting his ass beat by ONE 17yr old person ever, if your an adult male and you are young enough NOT to qualify for social security, you are a disgrace to your species IF a teen age boy can whip your ass. Alex.

True keyboard warrior speech. I wanna see your video fighting 6'2" black kid on a parking lot.

Just Alex 05-24-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19638614)
Good job CNN the last pic isnt even him. And you stalk someone minding their business and get in his face you get your ass kicked. They can talk about all the pot and guns in the world. Dont see nothing about stealing and the only one with the gun was the wanna be hero. Who has showed to be a real piece of shit.

That is not what I asked chubby cheeks. :1orglaugh

tony286 05-24-2013 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=Just Alex;19639704]That is not what I asked chubby cheeks.

You got to call me names

Just Alex 05-24-2013 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=tony286;19639708]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19639704)
That is not what I asked chubby cheeks.

You got to call me names

Is it any different from you saying "piece of shit"? You mad or sumfin?

tony286 05-24-2013 07:44 PM

[QUOTE=Just Alex;19639710]
Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19639708)

Is it any different from you saying "piece of shit"? You mad or sumfin?

Where did I call u a piece of shit? I would go as far as to say ive never called anyone names on gfy. Either I have an argument or I dont.

Just Alex 05-24-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19639713)

Where did I call u a piece of shit? I would go as far as to say ive never called anyone names on gfy. Either I have an argument or I dont.

Why does it have to be me? Well never mind, don't bother answering my original question. Stay ignorant.

tonyparra 05-24-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 19639586)
No wonder your country is in the shitter with so many jumping to the defense of an obvious waste of space like tyrone.

You would want someone to jump to your defense also because to 95% of the planet your not shit either.


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