Please help me understand trafficholder
 

hardjoko: my bid ranks 3 yet I only got 150 visitors per hour

Peter: that is how many hits we can deliver to your order at the moment

hardjoko: But you have 101448 visitors per day and my bid rank 3

hardjoko: I can just bid a little higher I am just curious how you split things up

Peter: what order is in question?

hardjoko: 1369561197

hardjoko: So you have 100k divided by 24 that's 4k per hour

hardjoko: given that my bid is close to the top I would expect some good chunk of that 4k

Peter: we have about 850 KR hits available per hour at the moment

hardjoko: I can raise bids I am just curious

hardjoko: 845?

hardjoko: 845 is what's available for all those who buy KR visitors?

hardjoko: So what's the 100k?

Peter: you take a look at the Last 24 hours (# orders) tab

Peter:

Peter: that's the amount we've sent to our customers within last 24 hours

hardjoko: you sent 100k per 24 hours but only 22k is available

hardjoko: so where does the rest go?

Peter: and the number of orders for that type of traffic

Peter: as you can see there are 45 active campaigns for KR traffic

hardjoko: okay so do you have 100k per day or 22k per day? Which one is right? How to explain the difference?

Peter: 22k is correct for any new order.

Peter:

Peter: it's available to buy right now volume of traffic

hardjoko: so the 80k is for those who bid higher or for old order or for other types of traffic or what?

hardjoko: Where does the other 78k traffic go if not to the new orders? To the old ones?

Peter: to the higher bid and other niches campaigns

hardjoko: I see

hardjoko: So you got 100k per day

hardjoko: 22k per day is available

hardjoko: I am getting 2k per day

hardjoko: the 20k per day goes to higher bids guy

hardjoko: the 78k goes to other niche guys

hardjoko: am I correct?

Peter: correct

hardjoko: Thaks.

hardjoko: Thanks

Peter: you're welcome

hardjoko: United kingdom, for exmaple

hardjoko: 1019544 (5) 4 / 0

hardjoko: you have 1 million visitors but none are available for country targetted purchase?

Peter: correct, there are many more expensive niches and UK is a popular geo targeting. And we deliver traffic to more expensive niches first

hardjoko: I see

hardjoko: I was surprised that no body would bid for geo targetted UK traffic

Peter: anyway these amounts under the Available Uniques yab are very approximate

hardjoko: so if we bid higher than those expensive niche we would still seize the traffic too

Peter: correct

hardjoko: and no UK traffic is available because too many people want to geo target their UK visitors

Peter: right

hardjoko: So many people geo target UK visitors, but total traffic for all those geo targetting visitors are 0. That doesn't make sense. So 0 is the total amount of traffic for all that buy geo targetted traffic?

Peter: not exactly. the thing is you can target by country any order, either you order traffic by niche or type

Peter: not exactly. the thing is you can target by country any order, either you order traffic by niche or type

I am still confused as fuck.

I am pretty sure that it's like overbooked flights.
They want to have more sold than what's actually coming in, to be sure none is wasted.

Better to over sell then under sell:2 cents:

Yeah.. exactly

And, it's not like they charge for what ain't delivered

I've been fucking around here and there with tholder for years.. I like them

i kunt a4d to understand a trafficholder... :(

Traffic goes to highest bidder.

Consider the unique 24h or 7 days too. Hits they got is not uniques, they're bouncied between th sites in circles. So 100 hits are really 30 uniques perhaps, if you select only unique, you get 30 and other 70 they give elsewhere.
Also, they always send some hits here and there to who selects generic traffic which includes a little of everything, you can not really buy it all yourself even if you big highest I think. In general I simply order traffic then check how much I am getting without try to understand why it is so few or so much, that's it.

Curiously I bought 2 campaign. Unique 30 days and unique 1 day. The unique 30days get more traffic even though the bid is the same.

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You can select which countries.